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What do competent scientists find in WTC Dust?

alienentity

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I came across an interview with author Anthony DePalma, who has written a book titled 'City of Dust', in which he investigates the health effects from exposure to dust from the collapses of the World Trade Center on 9/11, 2001.
http://www.anthonydepalma.com/books/city-of-dust/

Some further research uncovered this study, published in the Environmental Health Perspectives, Journal of the NIEHS, titled:

'Case Report: Lung Disease in World Trade Center Responders 
Exposed to Dust and Smoke'
http://ehp03.niehs.nih.gov/article/fetchArticle.action?articleURI=info:doi/10.1289/ehp.0901159

'Case presentation: In this report we describe clinical, pathologic, and mineralogic findings in seven previously healthy responders who were exposed to WTC dust on either 11 September or 12 September 2001, who developed severe respiratory impairment or unexplained radiologic findings and underwent video-assisted thoracoscopic surgical lung biopsy procedures at Mount Sinai Medical Center. WTC dust samples were also examined.'


This study examines not only the pathology of lung disease in several cases, but correlates it carefully to the composition of WTC Dust:

'Seven DS [Dust Samples] collected at different sites of the WTC (generously provided by R. Nolan, Environmental Sciences, City University of New York) were also observed by analytic electron microscopy for the presence of structures, particularly CNT.' (Carbon nanotubes)

A summary of the mineralogic analysis in correlation with pathologic features
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Elsewhere, some 92% 14,000 New York City firefighters and emergency medical services (EMS) workers who responded to the 9/11 attacks have had their lung function measured by researchers.

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=115148

This information is of vital importance in terms of showing causation and determining the value of insurance settlements for those injured by the dust.
Federal Judge Alvin Hellerstein in March 2010 rejected a proposed $575 million settlement, arguing that it was not enough to compensate.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35952451/ns/us_news-life/

That's a snapshot from the adult, competent world of research and litigation. Back in the fantasy world of 9/11 Truthers, people calling themselves 'research scientists' die their hair red and blame everything on mythical energy weapons powered by hurricanes, or super-secret silent explosives....

One thing we know for certain: these attention-seeking antics will not help the thousands of victims of 9/11, or their families. If anything they make a mockery of good science, a joke out of the suffering.
A joke which is in very poor taste, IMO.
 
One thing we know for certain: these attention-seeking antics will not help the thousands of victims of 9/11, or their families. If anything they make a mockery of good science, a joke out of the suffering.
A joke which is in very poor taste, IMO.

I'll second that.

Rolls
 
The absence of siderosis from the list of known ailments, thus the lack of Fe as a substance implicated in illness kind of rules out any great quantity of steel having been turned to dust.
 
The absence of siderosis from the list of known ailments, thus the lack of Fe as a substance implicated in illness kind of rules out any great quantity of steel having been turned to dust.

Finally, I see a point where I have to respond,

First, Dr. Tracy Postart is Dr. Tracy Blevins. They are the same people. So stop raising this point.

Next, Dusty is a real Phd. She has published a number of articles on topics related to her field in journals that are listed on the Thompson Science Citation Index. She did a post doctoral fellowship in the Department of Bioengineering at Rice University and entered a program in NYC that was supposed to result in her being a public school teacher.

I have asked her endlessly why no symptoms of iron toxicity were reported among first responders, NY residents or even Dusty herself, since she claims to have inhaled the iron dust storm. She responded by telling me that iron is an essential nutrient in our diet. When I supplied her with references to papers on iron toxicity, she went on endlessly about how she is a victim of 911 and as a research scientists, she would know more than me. Sound familiar?

Now this is a topic she would have professional expertise on. And that's the kind of answer you can expect from her.

DUDES, STOP TALKING TO HER!! I don't know if she has brain damage or some other severe mental impairment. She can not answer your questions - even about things she has been trained in. Drop the subject. It's like making fun of the kid who stutters because he can't speak properly. She has a serious mental problem and just because she talks about 911 doesn't mean you should respond to her.
 
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Finally, I see a point where I have to respond,

First, Dr. Tracy Postart is Dr. Tracy Blevins. They are the same people. So stop raising this point.

Next, Dusty is a real Phd. She has published a number of articles on topics related to her field in journals that are listed on the Thompson Science Citation Index. She did a post doctoral fellowship in the Department of Bioengineering at Rice University and entered a program in NYC that was supposed to result in her being a public school teacher.

I have asked her endlessly why no symptoms of iron toxicity were reported among first responders, NY residents or even Dusty herself, since she claims to have inhaled the iron dust storm. She responded by telling me that iron is an essential nutrient in our diet. When I supplied her with references to papers on iron toxicity, she went on endlessly about how she is a victim of 911 and as a research scientists, she would know more than me. Sound familiar?

Now this is a topic she would have professional expertise on. And that's the kind of answer you can expect from her.

DUDES, STOP TALKING TO HER!! I don't know if she has brain damage or some other severe mental impairment. She can not answer your questions - even about things she has been trained in. Drop the subject. It's like making fun of the kid who stutters because he can't speak properly. She has a serious mental problem and just because she talks about 911 doesn't mean you should respond to her.

Ok,I'm out.I no idea that she was so far gone.My parents taught me never to mock the afflicted.
 
What?!?! They didn't find any super duper nano thermite?!?!?

:dl:

Sorry, I couldn't help it...
 

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