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Hello from a non-skeptic

You have not taken into account one single piece of evidence that has been presented.
Plenty of people have considered the evidence you have presented and patiently and politely explained to you why all of it has far more plausible explanations that the ones you've imagined, and none of it amounts to evidence of the paranormal. You have chosen to either misrepresent or ignore everything you have been told.

Indeed you all practically terrorised me and the CPL forum, and my concern was far more for those there than for myself.
How can you possibly expect to be taken seriously when you make such self-evidently ridiculous assertions?
 
Hey, who is North American? I was born and raised in England, and still live here.

I think you are being needlessly hostile, in the face of nothing more than a sincere effort to help you see that "paranormal" experiences have rational, mundane explanations.

You quoted prose that was clearly polished, someone googled it. You don't want your book mentioned here, don't drop in wads of copypasted words in your replies.

Still no thanks to Alice?
 
Alice, I am so afraid... Brrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!

Perhaps you might like to check out this link also:

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=/eng/search/ancestorsearchresults.asp

Garrette, your "civility" only went as far as attempting to lure me into all of this. If I have not answered or replied to other questions, it is because amidst all the offence made to me here I have not bothered to read them. I only came back because Alice sent me a warning of her post about my genealogy. Based on what I have already exposed, I believe what I am stating about it deserves at least the benefit of the doubt...
 
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For the love of neeps and tatties, he STILL hasn't told me where in Burke's Peerage there's any reference to John Stewart other than as a son of Duncan Campbell who DIED WITHOUT ISSUE.

He STILL hasn't told me if he accepts that Janet Gordon was the daughter of the 3rd Earl of Huntley, in which case he isn't descended from James IV.

He STILL hasn't explained how he knows that Sir James Campbell had a daughter called Mary. The only child of Sir James Campbell I've been able to trace on the internet (not having access to a copy of BP, but I'll check this later) is John Campbell, who later became the 1st Earl of Loudon. Of course there can't possibly be a reference to the "Lady of Lawers" in BP because it was Charles who transformed her from an unknown Stewart of Appin into a Gordon.

As far as I can see all Charles has is evidence that a John Stewart, baptised in 1645, was the son of John and Mary Stewart. Hey presto, simply transfrom John Sr into the shadowy John Stewart of Appin, provide Sir John Campbell with a daughter called Mary, ignore the semi-folkloric aspects of the original story and there you have it - PROOF strong enough to edit a Wikipedia article (but not strong enough to cite your sources).

ETA: Oh, FFS, Charles. That link is essentially a search engine and I have no intention of doing any more of your work for you. If you have any solid evidence, post it yourself.
 
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Sorry, the link doesn't seem to be working, but enter www.familysearch.org and look up Janet Gordon born 1518 in Huntley who is the 2nd down... She was apparently the daughter of the son of the 3rd Earl of Huntley, and not his daughter...
 
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Burke's Peerage says nothing at all about possible descendants for John or Alan Stewart. So? I have explained to you why not...
 
So now I'm being called a liar as well...

Yes. Because, as has been demonstrated numerous times, you keep telling lies. Getting something wrong is not necessarily a lie, but when you keep repeating the same falsehoods despite them being clearly exposed as such, there is really no option other than deliberate dishonesty. Your posts are here, and will remain here, for anyone to see, and no amount of denial will change that.

One thing that seriously dawned on me was the fact that I am dealing with people from an entirely different culture, and mostly the North American one at that.

Many people have their locations stated right under their names. Of the people you have been talking to, at least two are in the UK and one is Australian, yet for some reason you pretend it's something about foreign cultures. Just another example of your failure to acknowledge reality.

Of course, the real silliness is that while you actually are dealing with a different culture, it is just not the one you think. The culture here is not American, it is simply one that appreciates reality over idle fantasy; skepticism and evidence over blindly accepting unsupported claims.

You know, you all asked me about my children. I have absolutely no doubt that I would much rather they grew up respecing

You want your children to play World of Warcraft?
 
Based on what I have already exposed, I believe what I am stating about it deserves at least the benefit of the doubt...


You believe all manner of things, Charles, and make up even more. If you wanted to enjoy the benefit of the doubt you shouldn't have trashed your credibility and used up your allotment of goodwill.
 
As I said to you all at the beginning, you guys know zilch regarding spirituality and mediumnity. In fact, to attempt to discuss such issues with you all would be like trying to explain advanced physics to a kindergarten class. In effect, you are, as I also said, like children frantically attempting to close your eyes to that which you do not wish to see...
First of all, you really don't seem to be able to handle criticism very well.

Secondly, what?!
You come in here to ask a completely incoherent question about advanced physics; A question that demonstrates beyond doubt that your sources of knowledge on Quantum Mechanics do not include a Quantum Mechanics textbook.
Real physicists on the board then patiently explain to you that Quantum Mechanics does not work that way.

That, Charles, is like teaching advanced physics to a kindergarten kid. A very old, and petulant kid.

Oy vey!

P.S: For something that is "one of the most unpleasant things ever to happen to you", you do seem to expose yourself to it a lot.

P.P.S: Greetings from not-North-not-America.
 
Of course, the real silliness is that while you actually are dealing with a different culture, it is just not the one you think. The culture here is not American, it is simply one that appreciates reality over idle fantasy; skepticism and evidence over blindly accepting unsupported claims.


The Debunkly Skerrits Pack of Jreffia!

No prisoners!
 
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Here in Brazil, people are much more tolerant of different beliefs. And who is saying that spirituality cannot eventually be proven by science?
 
Here in Brazil, people are much more tolerant of different beliefs. And who is saying that spirituality cannot eventually be proven by science?

Nobody has said that here.

There is a useful saying on this forum, "If you find yourself at the bottom of a deep hole, stop digging." You should drop the shovel and slowly back away from it. It isn't your friend.
 
I have exposed myself, haven't I? But I am not about to be discredited on what I can ponder against...
Okay, so what keeps you from accepting the answer that you got regarding Physics?

Here in Brazil, people are much more tolerant of different beliefs. And who is saying that spirituality cannot eventually be proven by science?
Nobody is saying that. That is precisely the point! It is upon the persons claiming that it does to provide convincing, repeatable evidence for coherent, falsifiable hypotheses.

That means you, Charles.
 
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I have exposed myself, haven't I? But I am not about to be discredited on what I can ponder against...

Ponder your poderingest. You may take away our iotas, but you'll never take away our skerrits!!eleventy!


Here in Brazil, people are much more tolerant of different beliefs. And who is saying that spirituality cannot eventually be proven by science?


Here in Jreffia, people are much more tolerant of other people who bring them evidence. And if sprituality was provable by science then it wouldn't be spirituality, now would it?

Silly sausage.
 
... And if sprituality was provable by science then it wouldn't be spirituality, now would it?

Silly sausage.
I disagree. It would completely depend on the name the scientists would give it after its adoption into mainstream science.
Of course, "spirituality" is just one word in an ocean of words, so it will probably be called "the Hobson effect", or "quantum-observation-collapse" or some such.
 
I disagree. It would completely depend on the name the scientists would give it after its adoption into mainstream science.
Of course, "spirituality" is just one word in an ocean of words, so it will probably be called "the Hobson effect", or "quantum-observation-collapse" or some such.


Conceded.

I should stay out of discussions on spirituality, I think. Too cynical.


I stand by the silly sausage comment though.

:)
 
Here in Brazil, people are much more tolerant of different beliefs. And who is saying that spirituality cannot eventually be proven by science?

There are any number of things that might one day be proven by science, but don't we need some sort of filter to exclude the limitless possibilities? Isn't withholding belief until there is well tested evidence a good filter?
 

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