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Next for GOP leaders: Stopping Palin

That at least provides some small comfort, as most people would find it hard to justify leaving the office of President of the United States of America because 'a better opportunity' came along.

Her leaving her job as govenor is the one of the top reasons I would not want to vote for her. Don't know if I can blame her (I am sure she has made truckloads of money since quitting) but it does cut into her credibility as a politician.
 
Her leaving her job as govenor is the one of the top reasons I would not want to vote for her. Don't know if I can blame her (I am sure she has made truckloads of money since quitting) but it does cut into her credibility as a politician.

The main reason I would not vote for her is that I just plain disagree with her politics. I consider myself centrist, and she is just too far right for my tastes. Heck, she IS the main reason I voted for Obama over McCain. I was a supporter of McCain in the 2000 primaries and would have definitely voted for him over Gore. However, once he got the nomination in 2008, his choice of Palin as running mate, along with other rhetoric from his campaign, was a clear indication that he was now willing to pander to the far right of the party and that just didn't sit well with me.
 
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That's not what I said, why don't you go back and read what I wrote?

I said there is no reason for a fiscal or political conservative to vote Democrat, no matter how nice the Democratic candidate is.
I did go back and read it before I posted a second time on the matter. You seem to think you've said something you didn't clearly say.

If you meant niceness was not a reason to vote for a person, then your post was not clear. Because "no reason to vote Democrat" is what seemed like the point you were making.


.... If everybody should vote Democrat, then why don't we just get rid of the process altogether?
Good idea. Then we could choose between Progressives and Blue Dogs instead of Democrats and the Party of No. ;)
 
How a Palin Presidency would effect the USA would depend on who is Vice President. That's because Palin would quit after realizing how hard the job it, just like she did in Alaska.

Or she'd do what Bush did, imagine her job was simply to sit around and be "the decider" and we'd get whatever the whim of the day was once again. :eek:
 
I did go back and read it before I posted a second time on the matter. You seem to think you've said something you didn't clearly say.

uh?

If you meant niceness was not a reason to vote for a person, then your post was not clear. Because "no reason to vote Democrat" is what seemed like the point you were making.
Everybody can see for themselves what I wrote, and that you are misrepresenting it. I said:

do you understand that there is no reason for a conservative to vote Democrat?
See?


Want me to highlight the part that you keep leaving out?

do you understand that there is no reason for a conservative to vote Democrat?


Want it in bold and big letters?
do you understand that there is no reason for a conservative to vote Democrat?


Maybe all the colors of the rainbow will help?

do you understand that there is no reason for a conservative to vote Democrat?


If you keep denying what I said, then you will either need to check with your ophthalmologist, or your shrink.
 
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uh?

Everybody can see for themselves what I wrote, and that you are misrepresenting it. I said:
See?

Want me to highlight the part that you keep leaving out?

Want it in bold and big letters?

Maybe all the colors of the rainbow will help?
I won't argue with you on that, but based on Republican performance the past 40 years, I'd also say there is no reason for a fiscal conservative to vote Republican either.
 
I won't argue with you on that, but based on Republican performance the past 40 years, I'd also say there is no reason for a fiscal conservative to vote Republican either.
Indeed. And back to Palin and Tea Parties vs. GOP establishment, and who is stopping who.

You are 100% certain voting Democrat won't help.
 
If the possibility of fiscal conservatism is more important to you than guaranteed liberal progressivism you will never vote Democrat, agreeing that GOP establishment hasn't done well lately as fiscal conservatives.
 
uh?

Everybody can see for themselves what I wrote, and that you are misrepresenting it. I said:

See?


Want me to highlight the part that you keep leaving out?
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If you keep denying what I said, then you will either need to check with your ophthalmologist, or your shrink.
Honestly, Pard, I don't get your logic here.

Is there a reason for a conservative to vote for a Democratic candidate or not?

Is the option of Palin vs a Democratic candidate a reason to vote for the Democrat or not?
 
An interesting irony has struck me here.

The Progressives have so far been a tad disappointed with Obama because Obama has not been progressive enough.

And when the Repubs think about it, they have been disappointed that Bush was not the fiscal conservative they idealize the Repub Party to be.
 
Honestly, Pard, I don't get your logic here.

Is there a reason for a conservative to vote for a Democratic candidate or not?

Is the option of Palin vs a Democratic candidate a reason to vote for the Democrat or not?

Oh I get it, it's somekind of comedy routine, right?

Kind of like Abbott and Costello.
 
Palin will in all likelihood, be a disaster for REPs. You can go on all you want about the "rise" of the Tea Party, but come 2012, if the choice DEMs and MODERATES have is between Obama and Palin, Obama will win.

The alternative for most, is too scary.

TAM:)
 
... starting 1/20/09.

I am not a republican, but I did vote for Bush in 2000 thinking he was a fiscal conservative. I did not make the same mistake in 2004.

So us moderates figured it out about 4 years earlier than the TPers.

I also disagree about the exact date. Some of the fiscal conservatives did start mobilizing with the announcement of TARP. However, the movement did not gain widespread support until that date you give.
 
I am not a republican, but I did vote for Bush in 2000 thinking he was a fiscal conservative. I did not make the same mistake in 2004.

So us moderates figured it out about 4 years earlier than the TPers.

I also disagree about the exact date. Some of the fiscal conservatives did start mobilizing with the announcement of TARP. However, the movement did not gain widespread support until that date you give.


Yeah, about the same time it became obvious that a Democrat would take office on 1/20/09, the 1/20/09 Deficit Hawks started to voice concerns.. and for some that was as early as TARP or even earlier than that.
 
Palin is at an age where she will be around for a while so if does not nod this time she has to wait until next time unless she is bored with the idea.
 

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