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Has anyone been following the West Memphis Three?

jharyn said:
I am only referring to the legal system in the US as favoring the defense more so then other countries. Not putting any others down. Just stating an observation.



And they have not demonstrated a miscarriage of justice in 17 years of trying.


Prove the incompetence, with evidence, not just more of you talking out your ass. I am not law inforcement.


Why would I care? This statement makes no sense in this discussion.
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I respectfully request that you not use obscenities or profanity when replying to me.

The incompetence is self-evident. You would know this if you had read/witnessed the evidence and testimony.
 
jharyn said:
As I have told you repeatedly and this is the last time.

The prosecution HAS ALREADY PROVEN GUILT. What part of this do you not understand.
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The prosecution has gotten a guilty verdict in a case where there was alleged jury misconduct, and alleged judicial misconduct.

These serious allegations are being reviewed.

What part of this do you not understand?
 
John Jones said:
The prosecution has gotten a guilty verdict in a case where there was alleged jury misconduct, and alleged judicial misconduct.

These serious allegations are being reviewed.

What part of this do you not understand?
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The just misconduct has already been brought up and ruled on. Next.

ETA: The new allegation is not something I believe to be true. Because jury misconduct has already been explored in the appeals process and ruled on. They found nothing.
 
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Ok John you are now just being ridiculous.


Did you attend the trial. You stated that if I had been there I would think differently then I do. So, did you attend the trial?
 
jharyn said:
Ok John you are now just being ridiculous.


Did you attend the trial. You stated that if I had been there I would think differently then I do. So, did you attend the trial?
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Did I say that? I don't recall having done so. Did you attend the WM3 trial?
 
Rolfe said:
Well now, I'm not Merikan, so I'll defer to your knowledge of the US justice system. However if this is true, then it is extraordinarily unjust. I'm no fan of the record of British justice, but this is certainly not the law on this side of the pond.

The burden of proof is always on the prosecution.
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Yes. The prosecution proved its case to the satisfaction of 12 jurors and a judge. That's why the WM3 are sitting in jail.

Rolfe said:
An absolutely valid ground of appeal is that the prosecution did not in fact prove its case, and that the jury's verdict was unsound.
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True. But that isn't the case here, at least so far.

Rolfe said:
Take Sion Jenkins again as an example. A trial, two appeals and two re-trials. It was never proved 100% that he was innocent, it just took that long to get the system to acknowledge that the evidence against him had never been sufficient to support the conviction in the first place.
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So? Because one person was found not guilty on appeal, the WM3 are not guilty?
 
Rolfe said:
If, after a guilty verdict, the accused then have the burden of proof settle on them to prove a negative (that they didn't do it) to a standard of 100% certainty, then I have to respectfully say you are deluded in that belief.

Rolfe.
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Who do you think will do it for them?
 
John Jones said:
Is that a declaration of superiority for the USA justice system, or an admission to ignorance of justice systems in other nations?

The WM3 and their advocates have been trying to demonstrate a miscarriage of justice for 15-16 years, but the original trial judge blocked their every attempt for much of that time.

Are you by any chance among the incompetent law enforcement officials in Arkansas responsible for this judical horror?

Gary Gitchell, the former Chief Of Police in West Memphis, Arkansas during the WM3 case has moved across the Mississippi river into Shelby County, Tennessee. He is in charge of security in the Shelby County School system.

I'm trying to get out of Shelby County as fast as I can.

Gary Gitchell, I hope you are listening.
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Translation: I don't agree with the verdict so that makes it a "judicial horror" and law enforcement "incompetent"?
 
John Jones said:
The burden of proof is on the prosecution. This has been explained to you at least twice, but you don't seem to recognize it.
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Yes. The prosecution proved their case. That's why the WM3 are in jail. How many times does that have to be explained to you? Just because you don't like the outcome doesn't mean they didn't prove their case.
 
The Central Scrutinizer said:
Translation: I don't agree with the verdict so that makes it a "judicial horror" and law enforcement "incompetent"?
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Exactly. They are unaware of what evidence was used at the trial, cannot point to testimony to back up their claims, nor have any idea of what has happened in anything during the appeals process.

All they have is smoke and mirrors. Lies and conspiracy theories. They saw a ridiculous documentary and have never looked at anything else.
 
jharyn said:
Exactly. They are unaware of what evidence was used at the trial, cannot point to testimony to back up their claims, nor have any idea of what has happened in anything during the appeals process.

All they have is smoke and mirrors. Lies and conspiracy theories. They saw a ridiculous documentary and have never looked at anything else.
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Reminds me of the Mumia Abu-Jamal case. People get on these "innocence" kicks and won't let them go. We all remember how "innocent" Jack Abbott was.

There was a similar case in St Louis about a year or two ago. The supporters of this poor murderer who was really innocent got a lot of press attention and demands for a retrial or even better, complete exoneration. What about A and B and C they cried! If only they would look at that evidence, it would be obvious he was guilty. The Circuit Attorney (aka Prosecutor) said they would take another look. Months passed. Why hasn't the Circuit Attorney agreed to retry the case? What is she hiding, they cried! Circuit Attorney - No comment. A few more months passed - an innocent man is in jail! What about A and B and C? Circuit Attorney calls a press conference - "What about D and E and F and G and H and I and J and....". Defenders - "Oh". And everyone went home.

Rinse and repeat.
 
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