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Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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Garrette said:
I don't know who originated the idea, but I first read of it, I think, (I'm not going to dig up the book to check because I have come to realize it's hoakum) in "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" which was largely the basis for Dan Brown's Da Vinci code.

Before even reading that book, though, I always thought it was strange that Mary, as a guest, would worry so much about the problem. I still find it strange and--going on the implausibility that the story is more than just a story--have always thought it implied something counter to dogma. The explanation you put forth works as well as any, I think. Except, of course, for the one that says the whole thing is made up.
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I plump for the fairy story explanation.
 
DOC said:
And if God exists miracles are possible.
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After thinking more on this, it isn't true. If there were a god it does not necessarily follow that he could either do anything in the universe or if he could he's not bound by the laws of nature like everything else.
 
Craig4 said:
After thinking more on this, it isn't true. If there were a god it does not necessarily follow that he could either do anything in the universe or if he could he's not bound by the laws of nature like everything else.
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Well that is certainly what some Deists believed. The cool thing about Gods is you can make them as powerful as you want them to be. Just depends on how imaginative you are. ;)

GB
 
Craig4 said:
DOC said:
And if God exists miracles are possible.
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After thinking more on this, it isn't true. If there were a god it does not necessarily follow that he could either do anything in the universe or if he could he's not bound by the laws of nature like everything else.
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The trouble here is that you're using normal logic and DOC logic is a bit different.

In DOCworld, everything rests on God's ability to resurrect himself after sacrificing himself to appease himself.

Therefore miracles.
 
Lothian said:
Alas, to no avail. Still I bet Zooter is gutted. He drew the shot but Doc played and missed.*


* Cricket reference. I am happy to explain if anyone has 3 weeks free.
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Allow me to explain with the help of a teatowel which I own, and on which is printed the following:

You have two sides, one out in the field and one in.

Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out.

When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out.

Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay all out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out.

When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game.

What? I'm just filling in time till DOC posts his evidence. I'm sure it'll be forthcoming soon, I read in the Gospel of Aberhaten:
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till DOC produces his evidence
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DOC, how do you know that perhaps the writers of the Egyptian book of the dead weren't telling the truth?
 
Agatha said:
Allow me to explain with the help of a teatowel which I own, and on which is printed the following:

You have two sides, one out in the field and one in.

Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out.

When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out.

Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay all out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out.

When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game.

What? I'm just filling in time till DOC posts his evidence. I'm sure it'll be forthcoming soon, I read in the Gospel of Aberhaten:
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Hmmm. Hmmmmmmmmmm. I think this may be the best Evidence for Why We Know the New Testament Writers Told the Truth that I've seen in this thread. For is not cricket played on the Ground of the Lord? And are His ways not mysterious, much like the rules of cricket?

I'm seriously considering conversion.
 
Akhenaten said:
The trouble here is that you're using normal logic and DOC logic is a bit different.

In DOCworld, everything rests on God's ability to resurrect himself after sacrificing himself to appease himself.

Therefore miracles.
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Well that's fine. Just keep it among consenting adults and don't involve the kids.

Seriously though, if you're going to believe that and be intellectually honest with yourself and everyone else you have to abandon evidence and just believe it. Evidence is testable and this idea of his is not. If you're going to be honest you can't site evidence up to a point and retreat to "it's a miracle and god is mysterious".

Either there is evidence or there is belief.
 
Bolding mine.
DOC said:
And if God exists miracles are possible.
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Linus: [to Sally as she walks away with everyone else] Hey, aren't you going to stay to greet the Great Pumpkin? Huh? It won't be long now. If the Great Pumpkin comes, I'll still put in a good word for you!
[realizes what he just said]
Linus: Good grief! I said "if"! I meant, "when" he comes!
[calmly]
Linus: I'm doomed. One little slip like that could cause the Great Pumpkin to pass you by. Oh, Great Pumpkin, where are you?

CT
 
Agatha said:
Allow me to explain with the help of a teatowel which I own, and on which is printed the following:

You have two sides, one out in the field and one in.

Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out.

When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out.

Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay all out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out.

When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game.

What? I'm just filling in time till DOC posts his evidence. I'm sure it'll be forthcoming soon, I read in the Gospel of Aberhaten:
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Best explanation of Cricket I've ever read but did the NT writers have something to do with the rules because the style seems similar?
 
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