Vegetarianism seen through the skeptical eye

[Mister Earl]

I've considered going reverse-vegan myself. I thought one day, "Why do I eat fruit / vegetables? There are many creatures out there that subsist on meat alone. Why can't I do the same?"

 

[robinson]

Gout.

 

[JoeEllison]

I've considered going reverse-vegan myself. I thought one day, "Why do I eat fruit / vegetables? There are many creatures out there that subsist on meat alone. Why can't I do the same?"

You need a minimum amount of "other". Sad but true.

But, hey, why not have a little side dish with your giant hunk of nummy seared animal flesh? It goes down ok, and helps it all come out ok too.

 

[Modified]

Alf (after being offered a salad):
"That's not food. That's the stuff food eats."

 

[CapelDodger]

I've considered going reverse-vegan myself. I thought one day, "Why do I eat fruit / vegetables? There are many creatures out there that subsist on meat alone. Why can't I do the same?"

Renal failure.

 

[CapelDodger]

I've considered going reverse-vegan myself. I thought one day, "Why do I eat fruit / vegetables? There are many creatures out there that subsist on meat alone. Why can't I do the same?"

Constipation and possibly piles. (Thanks for putting those thoughts in my head, Joe .)

There are many creatures that subsist on grass. And as to dung-beetles ...

 

[Modified]

Renal failure.

Not a concern as long as your all-meat diet is high-fat, like the traditional diet of many Inuit groups. Mmmm, seal blubber.

 

[Ron_Tomkins]

I just recently discovered the taste of lamb and I love it so I'm happy to anounce that there is another species I'm helping to kill

 

[James Fox]

Take apart a good leg or lamb and slice thin across the grain, marinate over night in olive oil, white wine, garlic, rosemary, fresh oregano, zest of one lemon, small amount of honey, salt and pepper. Cook over a very high heat BBQ until brown and crusty on the outside and pink inside. Good bread, good wine and perhaps a little tzatziki on the side and damn the veggies!!! Heaven…. (not that there is one, just my imaginary carnivore heaven)

 

[cloudshipsrule]

Take apart a good leg or lamb and slice thin across the grain, marinate over night in olive oil, white wine, garlic, rosemary, fresh oregano, zest of one lemon, small amount of honey, salt and pepper. Cook over a very high heat BBQ until brown and crusty on the outside and pink inside. Good bread, good wine and perhaps a little tzatziki on the side and damn the veggies!!! Heaven…. (not that there is one, just my imaginary carnivore heaven)

Thanks! I'll have to try this one.

 

[robinson]

olive oil,
white wine,
garlic,
rosemary,
fresh oregano,
lemon,
pepper.
Good bread,
good wine

...damn the veggies!!!

I find that ironic.

 

[Ron_Tomkins]

Originally Posted by James Fox View Post
olive oil,
white wine,
garlic,
rosemary,
fresh oregano,
lemon,
pepper.
Good bread,
good wine

...damn the veggies!!!

I find that ironic.

Well, like someone in another thread pointed out: "There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures... right next to the mashed potatoes"

 

[James Fox]

I find that ironic.

No, no, no.. not ironic, hyperbolic!!!

 

[CapelDodger]

Not a concern as long as your all-meat diet is high-fat, like the traditional diet of many Inuit groups. Mmmm, seal blubber.

Mmmmm, natural selection. Put today's Joe Blow on an Inuit diet and he'll likely go the way that a lot of proto-Inuits went. Beer, on the other hand, he's probably got the kidneys for.

 

[stilicho]

To save me repeating myself in response to some recent posts, let me re-post something I wrote earlier in the thread, because it went rather unnoticed:

People always ask me why I'm vegan. I always turn it round and ask them why they eat meat, because when I asked myself that question I never had the answer. It's just about thinking about the way you live your life, and why you hold the beliefs you do. In my humble opinion, non-dogmatic veganism is the logical and rational dietary choice; though if anyone can make the case as to why I should eat meat, please do.

Considered comment appreciated.

People sometimes ask me why I don't eat applesauce but I've never considered asking them why they do eat it. Thanks for the head's up!

As always, when considering the subject of health, it's best to consult your physician. If your physician recommends dropping meat from your diet then you probably ought to.

 

[J_E_R]

I've never thought of vegetarianism as a strictly moral or health decision. I simply don't 'support' factory farming in the same way I might not 'support' a Walmart which moved into my town.

Since 99% of the meat in the grocery store or at restaurants is factory farmed, I simply don't eat it so as to not support that industry.

I think I eat healthier, mainly because my options are more limited when eating out, and eating fast food while driving home from work (I know), is something of the past.

 

[iknownothing]

We may see that demographic change, with the obesity thing. That's yet to bite in a big way.

I was at my heaviest ever when I was a vegetarian. Way too much cheese, pastry, chocolate. Adding some meat back in helped satisfy me a lot more, so I stuck to the diet better and craved less junk.

My good friend is 57 and a veggie ( not a Vegan) and she gets along just fine without beef, pork or chicken. She does eat fish and dairy products.

My grandmother was a strict Seveth Day Advenist and a strict vegetarian. She ate plenty of dairy products and fish

I do not understand people who call themselves vegetarian but eat fish. Fish are animals.

I always find it amuzing that some vegetarians feel it's morally wrong to kill an animal, because it's a living creature and blablabla, but yet they don't seem to think that plants are also living creatures who are also being killed when you eat them.

Is there any reason to believe that plants experience pain or suffering when they are harvested? Yes, they are living things, but when people talk about that I believe it is understood that they are opposed to causing the suffering of living creatures.

 

[soylent]

Sometimes I think I'm the only person in the world who doesn't eat red meat because it's not very tasty and it's generally creepy to eat a substance so like your own flesh.

I don't expect I would have much qualms about using the captive bolt gun on an animal or butchering it; it won't see it comming or suffer very much. I have reservations about the way animals are treated before they are slaughtered, but that's not the same thing.

I don't claim to be a vegetarian by the way. I eat a metric ****ton of herring(especially awesome when pickled in acetic acid with sliced onion and spices) and some dairy, eggs, butter, cheese and other fish in general.

 

[Dr. Keith]

Sometimes I think I'm the only person in the world who doesn't eat red meat because it's not very tasty and it's generally creepy to eat a substance so like your own flesh.

Nope, I have a good friend who was pescitarian* for that very reason: mammal meat was too much like himself.

The odd thing was that he still loved sausage, although he rarely indulged. He and my Jewish friends called it their kryptonite.



*vegetarian who eats fish

 

[GlennB]

Since 99% of the meat in the grocery store or at restaurants is factory farmed, I simply don't eat it so as to not support that industry.

Have a source for your 99% figure?