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McConnell not going to play nice

Spindrift

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Mitch McConnell has basically said that the Democrats can stick it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40007802/ns/politics-decision_2010/

He said the only way Republicans in Congress can achieve their goals is "to put someone in the White House who won't veto" a repeal of Obama's health care reform, spending cuts and shrinking the government.
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"Every one of the 23 Democrats up [for re-election] in the next cycle have a clear understanding of what happened Tuesday," McConnell said. "I think we have major opportunities for bipartisan coalitions to support what we want to do."
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Why do I think that his definition of bipartisan is Democrats voting for his bills without any input? He's trying to pull the same crap the Democrats did.

Here's the lesson the Republicans are missing from this election: You were voted in because the other guys weren't getting things done. Whether that is just perception, reality or somewhere in between, that's what it is. It's not quite so much that everyone approves of you, they just disapprove of the other guy more. They were voted out at least as much as you were voted in. Guess what, if you continue with the same hubris that the Democrats had, it'll be 2008 all over again in 2012.
 
Spindrift said:
Guess what, if you continue with the same hubris that the Democrats had, it'll be 2008 all over again in 2012.
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I hope you're right. But isn't that largely what they've done over the past 2 years (stifling Democratic ideas), and the Dems got blamed for it?
 
Mitch is just sore because he didn't get the same prize his buddy John did over in the house.

TAM:)
 
I'm not sure where he thinks he's got his mandate from. I mean the only reason his party made gains is because a lot of Americans are really ******* stupid and think their ideas to shrink the government until we're Somalia are swell and logical.
 
Spindrift said:
Here's the lesson the Republicans are missing from this election: You were voted in because the other guys weren't getting things done.
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That's rather opposite of the case. It wasn't that the Democrats weren't getting things done. They were getting the wrong things done. They were making things worse. They were being reckless and irresponsible. They gratuitously wasted trillions of dollars of taxpayer money. They shoved a massive, fraudulent “health care reform” scam through, which was overwhelmingly opposed by the people they were supposed to be representing.

They lied and cheated and abused their power, to degree that no living American had ever before see happen on such a scale at the federal level.


Spindrift said:
Guess what, if you continue with the same hubris that the Democrats had, it'll be 2008 all over again in 2012.
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Here, I am afraid I must agree. Democrats were voted into power across 2006 to 2008, because the American people were dissatisfied with how Republicans were running the government.

The Democrats have now had two years to prove that they are worse at running the government than the Republicans ever were.

As Republicans, those on my side need to understand that we didn't win because the people like us; we won because the people don't hate us right now as much as they hate the Democrats. We won this election cycle on that basis, and we will almost certainly win the next cycle on that basis unless we really screw up badly, but long-term, we need to do a lot better than to just be less-hated than the other side.
 
Bob,

I am not sure they hate either party. Dissatisfaction and fear would be, imo, the two leading motivators that lead to the pummelling. Right now they fear unemployment, a soaring debt, and are dissatisfied with what the DEMs tried to do in their first 2 years.

Personally i do not think the low information voter was aware enough that the REPs and their obstructionism were part if not the main cause. That was, in part, the fault of leadership to explain things, and to expose said obstructionism.

TAM:)
 
Travis said:
I'm not sure where he thinks he's got his mandate from. I mean the only reason his party made gains is because a lot of Americans are really ******* stupid and think their ideas to shrink the government until we're Somalia are swell and logical.
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/facepalm
 
T.A.M. said:
I am not sure they hate either party. Dissatisfaction and fear would be, imo, the two leading motivators that lead to the pummelling. Right now they fear unemployment, a soaring debt, and are dissatisfied with what the DEMs tried to do in their first 2 years.
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Luckily for them they don't control everything again so in another 2 years they can still blame the Dems if people are still not satisfied.

The older I get the more I get of the opinion that the worse thing that can happen to a party, politically, is control the government.
 
Spindrift said:
Does the man ever smile?
His party just won a big victory and he still has the scowl on his face.
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When I saw him speaking I thought he should be a ventriloquist because half the time his lips were not moving.

Maybe that is because of the old joke.
How do you tell when a politician isn't lying? His lips aren't moving.
 
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"No compromise with the Democrats or Obama", is NOT the message the voters sent on Tuesday.

Wow, the GOP is already screwing up.

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Thunder said:
"No compromise with the Democrats or Obama", is NOT the message the voters sent on Tuesday.

Wow, the GOP is already screwing up.

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I did'nt get that at all. To me it appears the majority of people are sending the message STOP.
 
Drysdale said:
I did'nt get that at all. To me it appears the majority of people are sending the message STOP.
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yes.

stop the bickering.

stop the partisenship.

stop the refusal to work together.


if Mitch McConnell thinks he now has a mandate to refuse to work with Obama and the Dems, he is sorely mistaken.

and if this becomes the trend for the next two years..Obama will indeed be re-elected in 2012 AND the Dems may very well win back the House, and a stronger majority in the Senate.

McConnell does realize that the Dems still control the Senate, right?

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Drysdale said:
I did'nt get that at all. To me it appears the majority of people are sending the message STOP.
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No, i think the message was "we need help, and you havent provided it...quick enough."

TAM:)
 
T.A.M. said:
No, i think the message was "we need help, and you havent provided it...quick enough."

TAM:)
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I'm just curious. For a Canadian who this really does'nt affect, you seem to troll these boards looking for any perceived criticism of democrats and jump in and defend them.

I have to ask...why?
 
Drysdale said:
I'm just curious. For a Canadian who this really does'nt affect, you seem to troll these boards looking for any perceived criticism of democrats and jump in and defend them.

I have to ask...why?
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While you're at it, ask ProBonoShill, he's also from Canada but defends Republicans.
 
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