Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

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"I was not on the river getting my butt kicked by a skunk ape. I was in Port Orange Florida building a boat."

Creek???
 
William Parcher said:
1. Creekfreak doesn't write like that.
2. It's completely out of character for him.
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The only thing similar is that they were both building boats.

This person was in Port Orange, which is near New Smyrna on the Atlantic side.
Creek is in the Panhandle on the Gulf side.

Has anyone read the book? Where do Enoch's sightings take place?
 
Mike the Swamp Bandit said:
The book should have been published as fiction. Because that's what it is fiction at least my part is... I'm not happy about this book it should have never been published as non fiction
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Dude. Didn't you even look at Amazon.com's similarity category listings for this book? There is a kind of non-fiction that has nothing to do with facts or what is "really real". It's indistinguishable from fiction...

  • Religion & Spirituality
  • Occult
  • New Age
  • Body, Mind & Spirit
  • Unexplained Phenomena
 
Drewbot said:
The only thing similar is that they were both building boats.

This person was in Port Orange, which is near New Smyrna on the Atlantic side.
Creek is in the Panhandle on the Gulf side.

Has anyone read the book? Where do Enoch's sightings take place?
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I bought it and read it last week. It is my first Bigfoot book. They don't give the location or area. Autumn mentions that in the portions of the book written by "Mike", she had to do a lot of corrections on spelling and grammar. Remind you of anyone?
 
Does Autumn Williams have a terminal illness? I hadn't read anything about it until her blog which isn't even new. I hope not but...

Autumn Williams said:
The last year and a half have been extremely difficult. Only those closest to me are fully aware of just how hard it’s been, both personally and professionally. And all of it has been going on amidst a health concern that has recently turned into a fight for my life.
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Drewbot said:
Trouble in Enoch-Land.

Anonymous poster at the Pink Blog claims the stories were not his.
http://txsasquatch.blogspot.com/2010/11/trouble-in-florida.html
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Swamp Bandit Mike is now posting on BFF.

On Enoch...

swamp bandit said:
I thought I would give you my thoughts on Autumn's book Enoch. The book is a great read but it just touched on the tip of the story, there was just to much information to put in one book. Autumn did a great job of making her points clear, but what now? is that it? is that all we get?

Wouldn't you like to know how the book affected Mike, and where is he now? Is he still friends with Enoch and the gang? I was wondering, if you could ask Mike anything you wanted what would you ask him? And would you treat him with respect or tear him to pieces.
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On Bigfoot intelligence...

swamp bandit said:
Are they as smart as humans? by our standard's no their not. But by the standard's they live by they are way beyond us in many ways. They don't pray on each other they don't steal from one another, in fact they make sure everyone has what they need to survive.

Why haven't any been found? who said they haven't been found. What you should ask is why haven't any been exploited, put on a slab and cut up, or put in cages...

I was in the woods the other night and heard two BF talking to one another. They were watching some campers sitting around a fire staring at the flames. One BF said to the other their just sitting there, I want to see them do something. Hey I know throw a rock at them and see what they do. The other one picked up a big rock and his buddy said not that one its to big we don't want to hurt them, there grab that little one that should do it. He tossed it into the camp and the campers jumped up and started running around shouting in fear.

The BF laughed and threw another and another some of the campers hid in their tents. The others stood around shining their lights into the darkness...
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William Parcher said:
Sociologists weigh in on Bigfooters...
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Apparently the cornerstone of their analysis is the Baylor Religion Survey, which may be found at the Baylor Institute for the Study of Religion.

Sorry I cannot post links until I have 15 total posts here.

There are only two questions of 77 pertaining to bigfoot (#74 and #76), which are joined to the Loch Ness Monster.

The vast majority of the questions are on religious beliefs of course. There are a few on demographics like education, marital status, employment status, age and income.

The questions pertaining to bigfoot have multiple-answer choices for items such as belief in Atlantis, Alternative Medicine, Mind Reading, Astrology, Ghosts, and UFO's (Plus Bigfoot/Loch Ness Monster).

The only other question was whether they read a book or went to the internet to read about the subject.

I think the passage you quoted indicated the authors believed in a stereotype that Bigfoot/Nessie believers also believed in all these other things.

I don't know if there is such a stereotype. I'm not a stereotype scientist.

It seems to me that the most significant items pertaining to belief in bigfoot are missing from the survey altogether, and I am very interested to know them.

It does not surprise me that people who live in urban areas or don't otherwise have backgrounds in the forests of the Pacific Northwest could fall for bigfoot propaganda.

In view of the fact new species are constantly being discovered, it is rational to believe that more will be discovered. Of course, they won't be a hundred feet tall and weigh a thousand tons.

If you arranged a simple study based on an X-axis of size and a Y-axis of "proportion of people believing an animal of size X being discovered in the future" - it will begin near 100% and steadily fall off to zero. A huge number of those people are going to be correct.

So I would not put this in the same basket as Astrology or mind reading or ghosts. These are all-or-nothing qualitative beliefs.

So I think there is a bit of a strawman there - that belief in bigfoot would be strongly associated with these other things. Bigfoot is not an issue of whether there are undiscovered species, but whether it is too big to have evaded detection.

As I look at the people behind these films, sensing devices, "researchers" and all - what really impresses me is how little time they spend in the woods.

A few trips a year to a park?

You have countless thousands of people living on the edges of these wilderness areas. They accumulate more time glancing out their windows, walking around outside, etc. in one year by far than these people gain in these "expeditions".

I have not seen one bigfoot expert yet who impressed me as someone that spends much time in places where they would be seen.

It does not follow that if someone is a "bigfoot hunter" they are going to have much of any real experience.

A farmer will see hundreds of deer, pheasant, etc. incidentally to his livelihood. A bona-fide hunter is lucky to see a handful by comparison - and these are people that are stalking animals known with certainty to exist and who actually know how to find them.

A bigfoot believer... what do they even have to go on if they were to try "hunting" for one?

If you are a bona-fide hunter then you know what the animal eats and where that food is found. You know where he gets his water. Where his minerals are if applicable. Where the bedding areas are. You know what times of day he is moving around and what paths he tends to take. You can find tracks within minutes of arriving at your location.

There isn't anyone in all of bigfootery that can do this.
 
Nice post bush pilot.

It's really amazing, this sasquatch character.

With every other large animal, we can quickly tell whether they are living in, using, or passing through an area. We can quickly find and ID tracks if they are present. We can quickly see what and where they are eating. If we want to, we can quickly photograph or shoot one. Even with species that have low populations.

Yet we can get nary a confident sign of this 800 pounder...
 
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