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Hello from a non-skeptic

Charles Boden said:
Hello all,

I am aware that I will probably be torn to shreds here, but I came upon this forum thanks to a reference made by a member of Dr Carol Bowman's forum in a link I began there about the case of Jacqueline Pool, which has also been debated here on this forum (have tried to add the link to it but as a newcomer here this is still not yet possible).

Firstly, I must say that I too was skeptical of anything paranormal for a number of years until I had my own personal evidences that "there are more mysteries between heaven and earth than supposes our vain philosophy", which I am quite willing to share here just as long as the term "skeptical" might not be used as synonimous of biased, pre-judgemental or pre-conceptual, but as analytical and scientifically based in order to analyse not only a contrary point of view but a rational analysis of phenomenae beyond any current scientific knowledge, which naturally cannot be used as a premise for immediately discarding it. Science, as we know, does not as yet hold all the answers to all the mysteries.

In the case of Jacqueline Pool, a medium claimed to have been contacted by the deceased passing on to her information of her killer which proved to be astoundingly accurate and correct. She informed the police authorities of such an encounter and the information that was passed to her, allegedly by the deceased, including the information of who the assassin was. Such information was eventually proven to be correct thanks to DNA testing, which was not available at the time of the murder (1983).

I personally have also encountered apparently mediumnic occurrences which would go well beyond the possibility of a scam of any kind - to mention just two: my 2nd wife's pregnancy of my daughter when my wife was just two weeks pregnant and neither she nor I even suspected that this could be possible, and the death of Lady Diana just seven days prior to the actual event. Neither of these two incidents could have been a set up or a scam, but of course you may simply claim that I am lying in what I am saying and we can consider this case closed. That's fine... But to me who experienced these occurrences personally, the question as to how this is possible still remains.

My first question is the following: we now know as a fact that the human consciousness, or our intent in observing the reality around us, collapses quantum waves into particles. But if "consciousness" is merely the result of electro-chemical discharges of the human brain, as is understood by modern science, how does this interaction take place? Could "consciousness" not perhaps be that which vibrates the super-strings and causes such a collapse?

Some researchers have been investigating the possible association of the greater or lesser mediumnic capacity of an individual to the pineal gland, a small organ in the brain which could possibly be responsible for converting spiritual messages into stimulus to the brain thanks to a mineral called apatite, which is present in the gland's cells. The greater the number of apatite crystals present in such cells, the greater would be the capacity to maintain contact with the electromagnetic signals from the spiritual entities and realms.

Such intercommunications seem to apparently discard the possibility that such a phenomenon should be "dimensional", for in my limited knowledge I do believe that it is certain that two different dimensions could not possibly interact with each other. So what could we be talking about? Subtle and perhaps yet unknown forms of energy/matter? Indeed, what kind of "energy" is "thought"?

Look forward to reading your views...

Charles
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Could anyone who's read this please sum it up in 25 words or less?
 
Alice Shortcake said:
...not to mention my habit of spending vast amounts of money on clothes and jewellery!
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If you're missing a necklace and matching earrings, I think I saw them a few years ago. They were in the Smithsonian. Just go to the front desk, show them your ID, and describe them. I'm sure they'll be most helpful.
 
Illiadus said:
Could anyone who's read this please sum it up in 25 words or less?
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There once was a man called Charles Boden,
with a past as king finely woven
but from honest inquirers
he got no new admirers
and he went on his way quite heartbroken.
 
Mirrorglass said:
There once was a man called Charles Boden,
with a past as king finely woven
but from honest inquirers
he got no new admirers
and he went on his way quite heartbroken.
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In which post does he say he was a king?
Beginning? Middle? End?
 
Garrette said:
Agreed. Well done, Alice.

This has got to be very hard for Charles. It is not just a belief, but an identity held for a lifetime, one he has expended great effort and perhaps resources to support.
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Come on, man, you seem to know this thread! Tell me who claimed what and how it was disproved!
 
Illiadus said:
Come on, man, you seem to know this thread! Tell me who claimed what and how it was disproved!
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Charles thinks he is the reincarnation of some member of some royal family.
It doesn't need to be disproved, it needs to be proved.
 
Illiadus said:
Could anyone who's read this please sum it up in 25 words or less?
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Man, quite an ordinary thing,
Dreams of a great golden ring,
And finds it such fun
To tell everyone
Herebefore, I have been your king!


25 exactly.
 
WHOA!! It's with the deepest regret that this member of the Debunkly Skerrits Pack has to admit that she overlooked a vital piece of information.

Yes - things are even worse for Charles than I originally thought!

I got so obsessed with identifying Janet Gordon I skimmed over a vital part of Charles' claim to be descended from King James IV:

I am descended from the 2nd son of Duncan Stewart 6th of Appin (b. abt 1570), John Stewart.
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Really?

From the 1880 book The Stewarts of Appin, referring to Duncan Stewart, 6th of Appin:

Duncan married a daughter of Campbell of Lochnell, by whom he had three sons - Duncan, his successor, and John and Alan. An old family MS. states that these two latter "appear to have had no issue, as the ingenious author of 'The History of the Stewarts' mentions nothing of them but their Christian names

http://www.chuckspeed.com/balquhidder/history/Stewarts_of_Appin.pdf
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This is confirmed by Burke's Peerage Online:

1b DUNCAN, 6th of Appin; married a daughter of Cameron of Lochiel (see that family), and had issue,
1c DUNCAN, 7th of Appin, . died ante 1685,
2b John; died without issue
3b Alan; died without issue
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Is it merely a coincidence that John Stewart was also the name of the ancestor Charles mistakenly believed was the son of the 5th Earl of Moray? I strongly suspect that the whole thing is based on a vague family legend that a Boden ancestor called John Stewart was somehow descended from a Scottish king, and that we've witnessed two clumsy attempts to shoehorn him into suitable noble families.

Shortly before the other thread was quite rightly closed due to Charles' total lack of interest in discussing the ideomotor effect, Pixel42 wrote:

@Alice Shortcake: Excellent scholarship indeed, but I do wonder why you bothered. Mr Boden has made it abundantly clear that he is never going to abandon a cherished and comforting belief just because someone who has done the necessary research politely points out to him that it is mistaken.
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I bothered partly because of SIWOTI* syndrome, partly because of my interest in genealogy and partly because I'm a vicious sceptical bitch and wanted Charles' bogus claims to turn up in search engines. Although I have to say in fairness to Charles that in fact it wasn't me he was accusing of being rude to him, it was other posters. Thanks, Charles, for proving that you didn't even bother to read my posts regarding your genealogy; I don't think for a moment you'll risk destroying your fantasy world by reading them now, but other people will. And to think that if you hadn't come to this forum of your own free will to teach us proud sceptics a lesson, nobody outside the Past Lives and Jacobite forums would have heard of you!

By the way, the money I spent on the BPI subscription wasn't completely wasted. I was able to confirm my own family tradition that there was a link between Sir Henry Thompson and a titled family called Wenlock, but not being Charles Boden I accept the fact that there is no proven link between Sir Henry and the Thompsons from whom I'm descended. If there is a link, however, I am related by blood to General James Wolfe (of Quebec fame) and by marriage to the Queen and Sir Oswald Mosley!


*Someone Is Wrong On The Internet
 
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Alice Shortcake said:
By the way, the money I spent on the BPI subscription wasn't completely wasted. I was able to confirm my own family tradition that there was a link between Sir Henry Thompson and a titled family called Wenlock, but not being Charles Boden I accept the fact that there is no proven link between Sir Henry and the Thompsons from whom I'm descended. If there is a link, however, I am related by blood to General James Wolfe (of Quebec fame) and by marriage to the Queen and Sir Oswald Mosley!
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Good enough! From now on you shall be known as Lady Alice Shortcake, Margravine of Jreffia.
 
Lo, the light of the Aten doth shine upon me with glorious refulgence. My skerrits glisten in thy life-giving rays and my sporran is uncomfortably warm.

Lady Alice
 
Alice Shortcake said:
WHOA!!I am related by blood to General James Wolfe (of Quebec fame)
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According to family legend, I'm related to General Alexander Fraser, who's supposed to be one of the men giving comfort to Wolfe in that famous painting where he's dying on the Plains of Abraham.

Family legend is often enough pure baloney, but you're welcome anyway :P
 
Alice Shortcake said:
I bothered partly because of SIWOTI* syndrome, partly because of my interest in genealogy and partly because I'm a vicious sceptical bitch and wanted Charles' bogus claims to turn up in search engines.
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Alice, may I add my own "bravo!" to the chorus? Excellent job! :thumbsup:
 
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