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Showdown in Washington, D.C.

Ladewig said:
One Nation is an organization that openly states on their website that the Obama administration is nowhere close to being socialistic enough for their tastes. … snip … They are an extreme left-wing socialist organization who believe that they have a better chance of getting their agenda passed under Obama and the Democrats than under Republicans. They want the Democrats in power for the same reason that extreme right-wing groups want Republicans in power. In neither case does that mean the Democratic leadership or the Republican leadership is extremist.
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LOL! It seems you want folks to think that a bunch of leftists just endorsed Obama because he's the most left leaning candidate they can get at this time and Obama couldn't do anything about that. But it's a two way street out there. One Nation's rally was formally endorsed and advertised by "Organizing For America" (http://www.barackobama.com/ ), Obama's chief political organization. :D
 
BeAChooser said:
LOL! It seems you want folks to think that a bunch of leftists just endorsed Obama because he's the most left leaning candidate they can get at this time and Obama couldn't do anything about that. But it's a two way street out there. One Nation's rally was formally endorsed and advertised by "Organizing For America" (http://www.barackobama.com/ ), Obama's chief political organization. :D
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You have demonstrated that each group formally endorsed the other.

Of course, I still have to ask my question. Why are you surprised that self-described socialists allowed communists to attend their rally?
 
mhaze said:
Yes, but they just flat got it wrong.
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Can you give some examples of mainstream media that referred to the rally as Republican? If MediaMatters counts as mainstream media then ignore the question.

Nothing new in that, of course. They also reported that the crowd count was in the "thousands".
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Really? Can you give citations of mainstream articles that simply said "attendance was in the thousands" instead of "tens of thousands"? Actually, I would like to see an article that said "attendance was in the thousands [or tens of thousands]" instead of "this source gave this figure while this other source gave this figure".
 
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mhaze said:
Yes, but they just flat got it wrong. Nothing new in that, of course. They also reported that the crowd count [Beck's Restore Honor Rally] was in the "thousands".
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This morning NPR said that "thousands were expected to attend" John Stewart's rally.

We'll have to see what final numbers are reported.
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/10/30/2010-10-30_ride_to_rally_on_arianna_dime.html

Millionaire blogger Arianna Huffington is picking up the bus fare for more than 10,000 New Yorkers headed Saturday to Comedy Central's "Rally to Restore Sanity."

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Now, about 250 buses later, Huffington, founder of the popular Huffington Post - the left-leaning news and opinion website - is believed to be forking over hundreds of thousands of dollars to drive New Yorkers to Washington and back home again.
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Didn't John Stewart promise this would be a non-political event, and that it was in no way meant to counter Glenn Beck's rally? We'll have to see if that turns out to be true, too. But call me a little skeptical.
 
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...hibit-filming-at-national-mall-106355893.html

From: Albani, Steve
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 3:15 PM
To: Richard Pollock
Subject: RE: DC Rally Update
The only camera crews that will receive credentials are those for the riser. We are not issuing any other TV credentials.
Sorry.
Steve


From: “Richard Pollock”
Date: Oct 29, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: RE: DC Rally Update
To: “Albani, Steve”
Hi Steve,
Well your risers, you own. As Comedy Central, you have property rights and complete control over that. No one will deny you that. We are content, though disappointed with your decision to withhold media credentials to us.
However, the last I heard the First Amendment still does apply to America. It not only applies to TV hosts, show producers and to networks, but extends to the public and to events held on federal land. Yes, public lands! Although it may not make any sense to you at this moment, the National Mall is not a TV set, although it may look like one.
As the former chief Washington producer for ABC’s “Good Morning America” for nine years, let me assure you that you cannot bar cameras from public walkways on the Mall. It has never happened.
And so we will be there crew and all.
It does seem a bit incredulous that a rally for “reasonableness” should exclude freely based camera crews exercising their First Amendment rights to cover your attendees walking on public property. Unless this is Prague in 1968. And unless Comedy Central own tanks. Or unless it deploys a Comedy Police with enforcement powers.
On the other hand maybe I got this all wrong…I thought you were merely trying to be clever when you said it was a rally for fear. If is that, then I certainly understand your attitudes and rules.
See you tomorrow!
All the best,
Richard



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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/31/us/politics/31rally.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

The National Parks Service does not provide official estimates of the size of crowds at rallies on the National Mall, but Mr. Stewart estimated the crowd at 10 million. And Mr. Colbert offered his own guess in a Twitter message that read,” "Early estimate of crowd size at Rally: 6 billion. … snip … Judy McGrath, the chief executive of Viacom's MTV Networks unit, said she had been told by the Parks Service that there were "well over 200,000 people" in attendance.
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http://www.thepoliticalcarnival.net...0-possibly-200000-this-generations-woodstock/

MSNBC VIDEO- Rally to Restore Sanity Crowd Size: Over 100,000, possibly 200,000. “This generation’s Woodstock”
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From the pictures I've seen, that number looks to be the right range. The crowd is probably near the higher side of it. Looks like it was a one big Party. Certainly the music was a draw. And the silliness. The crazy antics. The costumes. Looks like it was fun for all. A beautiful day at the park. But I guess I'm still perplexed, as many are, as to what it was all really about ("What are we cheering for?" said one of the crowd). What has it really to do with Fox News, Sarah Palin, the Tea Party or Glenn Beck … which were the focus of most of the signs and comments in those of the crowd who did get a little serious? Is it a claim that just one side in the election is insane and fearful? Because that is clearly not true. Now maybe I'm just getting too old. Or maybe the youth of this country truly are disconnected or have already bought the left's bill of goods. Either is a bit troubling. But one thing is for sure. Chilling out, KumBaYa, satire and avoiding real debate of the issues will not be answer. It may make these people "feel good", it may help the event's sponsor's careers, but we'll need to dig deeper and be a bit more logical than that if we are to see our way to a real solution I suspect. And that starts November 2nd. :D
 
BeAChooser said:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/10/30/2010-10-30_ride_to_rally_on_arianna_dime.html





Didn't John Stewart promise this would be a non-political event, and that it was in no way meant to counter Glenn Beck's rally? We'll have to see if that turns out to be true, too. But call me a little skeptical.
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That news article says that she bussed in New Yorkers, not liberals. So unless you have some sort of evidence that non-liberals were turned away from the buses, or that all New Yorkers are liberals, I remain skeptical.

Five of my friends were there today. One conservative banker from the UK, two super-liberals, one democrat and one republican. This was a bipartisan event.
 
Cicero said:
Was that your response to those who dared comment on folks carrying signs poking fun of libs at other rallies?
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I don't think the racist signs were just "poking fun" at all, they were just insulting.

Painting Hitler mustaches on those who compare EVERYONE to Hitler is rather funny.
 
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