Hispanics are not a race, in New York City

[Thunder]

I just heard a report on NY1, Time Warner Cables NYC news station, that said that NYC schools will be requiring all students to report their race. And if they dont do so, a schoo official will actually LOOK at them, and determine their race for them.

Furthermore, "Hispanic" can not be used as a racial identification.

They can only choose White, Black, Asian/Pacific Islander, or Native American.

yikes. a few million folks are gonna be mad.

 

[EGarrett]

There's some missing information here. Links or more description will probably be necessary.

 

[WildCat]

I just heard a report on NY1, Time Warner Cables NYC news station, that said that NYC schools will be requiring all students to report their race. And if they dont do so, a schoo official will actually LOOK at them, and determine their race for them.

Furthermore, "Hispanic" can not be used as a racial identification.

They can only choose White, Black, Asian/Pacific Islander, or Native American.

yikes. a few million folks are gonna be mad.

Hispanic isn't a race, on planet earth.

 

[332nd]

I sooo wish I was a student in NYC now...

 

[Thunder]

There's some missing information here. Links or more description will probably be necessary.

its very confusing, but I cannot find a single link on this subject.

not even on the NY1 website.

 

[Checkmite]

In most administrative surveys I've seen, Hispanic is an ethnicity; a subset of the caucasian race.

 

[WildCat]

In most administrative surveys I've seen, Hispanic is an ethnicity; a subset of the caucasian race.

Generally, they're either black or caucasian.

Vicente Fox would be caucasian, Juan Uribe is black.

Of course, lots of shades in between...

Why are we keeping track of race anyway?

 

[JWideman]

It isn't, technically, a race. But a lot of people who identify as hispanic would be rather put out at being excluded. And as for they put down what they think your race is after looking at you if you decline to answer... who came up with this, David Duke?!?

 

[Elizabeth I]

In most administrative surveys I've seen, Hispanic is an ethnicity; a subset of the caucasian race.

...and of the black race, and the native American race, and even, in Peru and some parts of Mexico, the Asian race.

 

[WildCat]

It isn't, technically, a race. But a lot of people who identify as hispanic would be rather put out at being excluded. And as for they put down what they think your race is after looking at you if you decline to answer... who came up with this, David Duke?!?

I wouldn't make the assumption the OP is an accurate representation of the actual policy... just sayin'.

 

[fuelair]

In most administrative surveys I've seen, Hispanic is an ethnicity; a subset of the caucasian race.

That's partially the one - but the ethnicity has long included elements of other racial groups. Assuming subscription based on lots of recent discoveries in biology and genetics that make race asilly concept and an unimportant one. If people just must be broken into groups, ethnicity makes more sense - but if you are going to play (not you, checkmite, the yous who use race) race you need to play it by ethnography rules since that is what is based on the race concept and developed the rules for racial classifications.

 

[Thunder]

Hispanics can be of ANY race. They may have started out as whites from Spain, but now it includes blacks, Asians, and Native Americans.

clearly, Hispanics are no more a biological race than English speakers.

If Hispanics are a race, than so are folks from America, Canada, Britain, Australia, New Zealand, and Ireland.

 

[TragicMonkey]

Anybody care to define "race", then?

 

[PhantomWolf]

Hispanics can be of ANY race. They may have started out as whites from Spain, but now it includes blacks, Asians, and Native Americans.

clearly, Hispanics are no more a biological race than English speakers.

If Hispanics are a race, than so are folks from America, Canada, Britain, Australia, New Zealand, and Ireland.

Well when an Aussie company swiped a NZ one's website and put it up as their own, they got a lot of anti-aussie hate mail. They claimed that some of it was racist against Australians.....

 

[WildCat]

Hispanics can be of ANY race. They may have started out as whites from Spain,

The Spanish are Hispanic?

 

[zooterkin]

The Spanish are Hispanic?

From a European perspective, surely only the Spanish are Hispanic.

 

[TragicMonkey]

From a European perspective, surely only the Spanish are Hispanic.

How about the Catalans?

 

[WildCat]

From a European perspective, surely only the Spanish are Hispanic.

I did not know that!

 

[zooterkin]

How about the Catalans?

Originally the term applied to the whole Iberian peninsula, now it generally applies to the nation of Spain; either way, the Catalans would be included.

 

[Giggywig]

Edit: Never mind, should read the whole thread...