Will the internet survive energy contraction?

[TFian]

Using terminology you don't understand, what is the cutoff IQ wise for 'mental retardation' and how many fall within 10 points of the cutoff?

I'm not sure IQ is such a good measure to determine such things. Most blacks for example, have the IQ of an institutionalized retard, yet they seem to be able to achieve self sufficiency, usually.

 

[Hellbound]

Whoa.

Not only wrong, not only making making up facts, but apparently blatantly racist, as well.

 

[excaza]

Most blacks for example, have the IQ of an institutionalized retard

You've got to be kidding me. Did we suddenly stumble a few hundred years backwards in time? Are you going to start talking about eugenics next?

 

[excaza]

Can't wait to see the source for this one.

 

[TFian]

BTW, why are there so few trees on the african veldt? (In its setting before modern agriculture.)

Did it ever have an abundance of trees?

 

[Hellbound]

You've got to be kidding me. Did we suddenly stumble a few hundred years backwards in time? Are you going to start talking about eugenics next?

If I were a nicer person, and not the misanthropic cynic I am today, I would refrain from speculating that we may be seeing why he/she issn't too worried about 90% of the people dying (as long as it's the right 90%).

 

[TFian]

They are in their proper place, you mean something else?

I'm thinking more along the lines of where John Zerzan says we should be.

 

[TubbaBlubba]

But isn't that the job of a psychologist/psychiatrist? To change the way you think to fit the norm?

No, that is rarely if ever the case. In your case, it's to stop you from self-destructive behavior.

Also, your comment about blacks is preposterous. It is true that blacks in America at least have some 5 points lower (i.e. the bell curve is shifted that many points to the left) than whites in large-scale IQ tests, as well as lower SAT scores, but that's because of social issues rather than mental genetics.

 

[TFian]

No, that is rarely if ever the case. In your case, it's to stop you from self-destructive behavior.

What would be the point of that? All things have an expiration date right?

 

[excaza]

I'm thinking more along the lines of where John Zerzan says we should be.

This directly contradicts your desire for everyone to return to an agrarian civilization.

 

[TFian]

This directly contradicts your desire for everyone to return to an agrarian civilization.

I have no desire for everyone to return to an agrarian civilization.

 

[excaza]

I'm not sure IQ is such a good measure to determine such things. Most blacks for example, have the IQ of an institutionalized retard, yet they seem to be able to achieve self sufficiency, usually.

Come on TFian, don't avoid this little gem.

 

[excaza]

I have no desire for everyone to return to an agrarian civilization.

Irrelevant, the fact that you want a civilization is completely contrary to Zerzan's beliefs.

 

[TFian]

Irrelevant, the fact that you want a civilization is completely contrary to Zerzan's beliefs.

Actually, I want humankind to go extinct.

 

[TubbaBlubba]

What would be the point of that? All things have an expiration date right?

Right. You can sit around thinking like that. OR, you can have a long, mostly happy and productive life. Which do you choose, sitting around being miserable and destructive, convincing yourself that the world will end in a few years, or perhaps going out, educating yourself and getting a good job, getting a girlfriend (if you're straight), children and contributing to the welfare of society and yourself.

Please, please see a psychiatrist.

 

[excaza]

Actually, I want humankind to go extinct.

And finally, after 493 posts, you stop pretending to be sane. Marvelous.

 

[Myriad]

Regarding the original topic, I've just stumbled on the answer to how civilization will cope when collapse causes the Internet to go down.

http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_90_the-world-tomorrow-if-internet-disappeared-today_p20#1

Respectfully,
Myriad

 

[TFian]

Right. You can sit around thinking like that. OR, you can have a long, mostly happy and productive life. Which do you choose, sitting around being miserable and destructive, convincing yourself that the world will end in a few years, or perhaps going out, educating yourself and getting a good job, getting a girlfriend (if you're straight), children and contributing to the welfare of society and yourself.

Please, please see a psychiatrist.

Why is the latter preferable? This makes no sense to me.

To be fair, I am "educating myself" (if you mean school) and am involved with someone.

 

[TubbaBlubba]

Why is the latter preferable? This makes no sense to me.

It makes sense because you experience emotions that are positive rather than negative, and do constructive rather than destructive things.

Yes, you've figured it out, we, and Earth, are insignificant in the fact of the universe. But we're here. And we have consciousness, we have emotion, and we can achieve things. Yes, those achievements may not matter in ten billion years (or will they?), but is there not some kind of meaning to it? Reaching the end of the solar system, finding out the fundamental workings of the cosmos?

Or just, you know, having a good time. Have you ever been in love?

 

[TFian]

It makes sense because you experience emotions that are positive rather than negative, and do constructive rather than destructive things

But, what's the point? Can't the same feeling be achieved with narcotics? (not that I dabble in that mind you..)

Reaching the end of the solar system, finding out the fundamental workings of the cosmos?

Well, isn't that a bit star trek fantasyish?

Have you ever been in love?

Yes, why do you ask?