Open Letter to Dave Thomas

[ergo]

Is it your claim now that there was not enough fuel in building 7 (Areas NIST predicted) to support the fires of the reported duration?

How do you get that conclusion from reading the last page of posts?

 

[DGM]

No. Green wood produces a thick, acrid smoke.

That would depend on the available oxygen supply. You really need to stop making such definitive statements.

 

[ergo]

Yes, because an open camp fire does have a limited supply of oxygen.

 

[DGM]

And anyway, fire seeks combustible material. It doesn't limit itself to a few rooms out of politeness. The WTC 7 "burned", as you yourselves say, for 6 hours.

Lol. Which is why smoldering fires don't produce the same amount of heat.

How do you get that conclusion from reading the last page of posts?

Where were you going here? Do you just post random thoughts or is there some sort of hidden coherency.

 

[DGM]

Yes, because an open camp fire does have a limited supply of oxygen.

Why, yes it does.

 

[ergo]

Maybe if you read the posts in between, you would understand.

Then again, maybe not.

DGM, you never answered my question about aetruth.info. WHere on that site can we "Learn the Truth" about Richard Gage?

 

[DGM]

Maybe if you read the posts in between, you would understand.

Then again, maybe not.

DGM, you never answered my question about aetruth.info. WHere on that site can we "Learn the Truth" about Richard Gage?

If I thought you could understand what you read I would point it out. This thread show this is not the case.

 

[DGM]

Ergo:
Still scratching your head over a campfire does not have an "infinite oxygen supply"?

 

[bill smith]

If I thought you could understand what you read I would point it out. This thread show this is not the case.

I don't know why we are arguing the ins and outs any more. It's over. 9/11 was an inside job.

We should be working on 'what now' .

 

[beachnut]

Lol. Which is why smoldering fires don't produce the same amount of heat.

False, as in a lie based on ignorance.

prove it

 

[carlitos]

LOL

DGM, you never answered my question...

Rather than the incredulity, the honest thing to do would be:

- My theory about what happened to building 7 at the WTC is _____________.
- <Insert whatever supposed anomaly "too much/not enough smoke" etc.> about this event is relevant to the above because ____________.

 

[BigAl]

Lol. Which is why smoldering fires don't produce the same amount of heat.

It's so easy to confuse heat and temperature if you've never passed a physics course.

 

[BigAl]

I don't know why we are arguing the ins and outs any more. It's over. 9/11 was an inside job.

Yup. It was the fire inside WTC7 that made it collapse.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Why is this thread still going on when Dr. Thomas ended it halfway through the first page?

 

[DGM]

I don't know why we are arguing the ins and outs any more. It's over. 9/11 was an inside job.

We should be working on 'what now' .

Well Bill, I missed the memo. You can understand my confusion, I've been outside.

 

[ozeco41]

It's so easy to confuse heat and temperature if you've never passed a physics course.

Beat me to it. Quite a few posts missed that point.

 

[ergo]

Ergo:
Still scratching your head over a campfire does not have an "infinite oxygen supply"?

No, but since you're obviously dying to tell us, go ahead.

 

[ergo]

It's so easy to confuse heat and temperature if you've never passed a physics course.

So do tell us how the difference between heat and temperature is relevant to our discussion about smouldering versus open fires.

 

[triforcharity]

No. Green wood produces a thick, acrid smoke.

My apologies, you're correct. I spelled black in my head, put white in instead. Damn you beer!

Anyway, do you still stand by this "grey smoke doesn't come from raging fires" BS still?

BTW, the reason green wood produced black smoke, is because the heat is struggling to break the wood down, and it cannot completly do so. It causes creosote to form, which comes from the incomplete combustion of the material.

 

[ozeco41]

So do tell us how the difference between heat and temperature is relevant to our discussion about smouldering versus open fires.

Probably of most relevance here is the fact that it is temperature which weakens steel.