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September Stundie Finals

Vote for the best Stundie of September

  • 1) Thought police absence

    Votes: 8 8.2%
  • 2) 22 jets couldn't fell the WTC

    Votes: 8 8.2%
  • 3) Occam's Razor ain't what it used to be

    Votes: 35 35.7%
  • 4) Anglican name goof

    Votes: 22 22.4%
  • 5) Etymological puzzles

    Votes: 8 8.2%
  • 6) 36 gallons of kerosene is harmless

    Votes: 4 4.1%
  • 7) Double rainbows mean geologic trouble

    Votes: 4 4.1%
  • 8) Bill Gates = Hitler with a PR department

    Votes: 16 16.3%
  • 9) Box Columns, definitely not real

    Votes: 19 19.4%
  • 10) Open minds requires an absence of evidence

    Votes: 38 38.8%
  • 11) Math, it's a conspiracy too

    Votes: 39 39.8%
  • 12) Expanding buckling

    Votes: 3 3.1%
  • 13) Only Youtube can know my name

    Votes: 6 6.1%
  • 14) 12 million dead without a plan

    Votes: 12 12.2%
  • 15) Gravity is gone...again

    Votes: 27 27.6%
  • 16) Depopulation through longevity

    Votes: 11 11.2%
  • 17) 757 ignorance means no plane

    Votes: 14 14.3%
  • 18) My assumptions make you wrong

    Votes: 10 10.2%
  • 19) Rodent tracking from space

    Votes: 10 10.2%
  • 20) A WTC without floors

    Votes: 28 28.6%

  • Total voters
    98
  • Poll closed .

Travis

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So, the winner from August was Moon Sized!

I'm not sure even a moon-sized field or mountain of rubble, dropped from a height of 12 feet would entirely crush the WTC. No. If you had it coming down from a higher height, in a steady stream over a long period of time, we would certainly see some major damage. Total collapse? I'm not sure.

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Awesome. Here's your virtual award.

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So now the Finals from September!

1) I'm pretty sure that we can usually say a lack of persecution is just a lack of persecution.
No one comments on my Beck button. No pro or con. Maybe D.C. has gone Orwellian. Maybe they are actually afraid to think for themselves. They are afraid to have opinions. I start to feel like the Thought Police are following me. I whip my head around.
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2) Damn those buildings were strong!
its this kind of reporting that supplies evidance not hearsay into the issue? i believe 22 jets could hit the twine towers before a parshal collapes? viewing the towers fall its clear to me they were blownup as the cloud dust filled the airspace over man hat ten that day in september.

so what did happen that morning? 9/11 solved two things, first it gave legal cover for the paperclip nazis to spy on the people under cover of law, called the patriot act or the domestic spy act of 2003?

second, silverman got to bail out on the costly remodel of the towers that needed up dating! and channy and rummy got there oil war in iraq fueling there corperate pimp daddies hallowberton no bid contracts, oh ya life is so sweet!! but iraq oil was the objective. and us military head to be used in the ww3 planned for the middle east by satan filling the bible prophicy that must come to pass!
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3) Was this not supposed to be Rhetorical?
I can only speculate about that, but yes, I believe the impact holes were made by shape charges, and tons of kerosene used to create the fireball explosions then Thermite together with the office fire started to melt and soften the steel on those floors. When the steel was soft enough, they triggered massive explosions under the basements of the towers which caused the core columns (who were designed to collapse in case of a severe earthquake) to snap apart, and after about 10 seconds the towers started to collapse at the weakened floors.

It was not easy to synchronize the fireball explosion in the second 'plane impact' in real-time with faked live video broadcasts by the large television networks. The live video feeds to the TV stations went through a centralized media control center where the live video feeds were delayed about 5 seconds, in order to synchronize the fake 2D computer graphics silhouettes with the fireball explosion.

But use Occam's razor. What is the simplest explanation? Four commercial airliners hijacked and flown with incredible speed and accuracy (well, except the one that plowed deep into the ground). Or, the scenario I have described?
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4) Seriously, who'd they think they'd fool? Surely the Anglicans take inspiration from nothing!
Ive always had a major problem with the idea that there were guys running around judea 2 thousand years ago with names like peter paul luke john etc.
these are all anglican names that surely were not even known or heard of in the mid east 2000 years ago.
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5) "Etymological!?!" As if that word has a history.
Yeh But.... That is the 'etymological' meaning of the word, and we have all learned from debunking posts on this thread that modern words are not defined by etymology, but by current common usage. And, Ship High In Transit is the common usage. Where are you coming from by using etymology to define words?
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6) It's not like Fuel Air Bombs rely on even less.
You are assuming kerosene is a very destructive explosive. Such is not the case. It does not expand anywhere near as fast as an "explosive" like C4 and there was only about a quart of kerosene per sq ft of floor space.

How big was that freight elevator? 10'x10'?
~36 gallons of kerosene in a 12'x12' shaft, 1,000 feet high will not cause any appreciable damage.
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7) The USGS will be very appreciative of these new "double rainbow" warnings. But if we see a triple rainbow we'd best prepare for comet impact.
'strange' weather above ground (double rainbows) may indeed be some kind of indicator as well, of any forthcoming earthquakes
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8) Because we all know the secret to de-population is Polio vaccines and Windows 7 upgrades.
You mean Bill Gates isn't a eugenicist? What about the population control charities he funds how about he wants force inoculate people with mosquitoes carrying vaccines, his father was the head of planned parenthood, oh and he supports the death panels created by obama care. You don't know **** about him there is so much evidence he's essentially a james bond villain in real life it's *********** ridiculous. Clearly you know nothing about Bill Gates or his actions or you wouldn't be saying he doesn't want to reduce world population because clearly and obviously does. **** off with your lack of evidence the man is a eugenicist, I'm sorry you don't follow his exploits close enough to know this but he is. Don't get me started on Bill Gates douchebaggery, the man is one of the biggest traitors to the human race of all time. Hell he even attended Bilderberg 2010 in Spain so don't tell me he isn't the worst of humanity incarnate, the man is a stealthier version Adolf Hitler with even better PR. Ted Turner who on record wants the world population lowered by 95% donates to same charities at Gates and they all have to do with reducing population in some way, some more nefarious than others. Pull your head out of the sand Bill Gates is as evil as they come.
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9) I've never heard of it. Must be a hoax term. Did I mention I hate research?
Re-search is not my cup of tea. Especially not when the information is so confused. Take interior box columns for instance. Seems to me to be some kind of hoax term, conspiracy theory bait. Very little information on the Web about it, and that which I found didn't make it much clearer. Who comes up with crap like that?
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10) Gotcha. Evidence = closed mind.
Evidence can be an impediment to conscious intelligent thinking with an open mind.
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11) Because we all know that math is just there to confuse the "awakened."
The time required to strip off a floor, according to Frank Greening, is a maximum of about 110 milliseconds = 0.110 seconds. It is rather the conservation of momentum that slowed the collapse together with a small additional time for the destruction of each floor.

Below are calculations from a physics blogger...

When I did the calculations, what I got for a thousand feet was about nine seconds- let's see,
d = 1/2at^2
so
t = (2d/a)^1/2

[SNIP]

(lots of math follows)
Who ever wrote those calculations obviously did it to confuse and perplex the conspiracy theorist.
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12) We all know that "expansion" has never caused anything to "buckle."
My favorite NIST goof of the day is how the beams framing into the flr 13 column 79 to 44 girder thermally expanded in the most amazing of amazing ways.

NIST informs us that they both buckled and expanded (that's truly amazing stuff) to push (actually it just walked, they say) off the intersecting girder.
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13) It's possible that he's just ashamed his real first name is "Just" and he doesn't want the esteemed minds of Youtube to know.
The video in question was posted by YouTube user keiththompsonmusic. It’s been viewed almost 20,000 times.

It shows Thompson at provincial offences court. He refuses to identify himself as anything but “just Keith; nothing more, nothing less,” despite the justice of the peace asking him if he’s Wilfred Keith Thompson. The justice eventually asks for the man to be removed and calls a recess.
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14) So the Nazi's weren't murderers they were just the most incompetent Guardians in history.
Twelve million people can die without being slaughtered by the Nazis. The Nazis can kill twelve million people without an extermination program.
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15) It was that damned electromagnetism again. ******* electromagnetism, how does that work?
And, no again, gravity did not have a lot to do with the destruction of the WTC complex. Gravity had next to nothing to do with it.
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16) Depopulation means more people than ever? Rome was controlled by the Illuminati? Babies are no longer considered "precious?"
The way the Illuminati USED to make sure people died relatively young was to not allow decent plumbing and water supplies. If you read about roman architecture you will see that the wealthier had what you might consider 'running water' and the romans built aequduct by the score to gain access to clean water. This was all done away with and the poor water quality, poor sewerage system made sure that they killed off people relatively young.

All over the world people with access to clean water and decent sewerage systems have been recorded as living for a very long time. Us humans are hardy little buggers. We have to be pretty badly poisoned to kill us. And that's what they are doing now.....upping the kill rate while also upping the non-birth rate with the 2 BILLION or so abortions they have managed to talk women into performing as a 'right' over the last 40 years. Not to mention the pill that has made sure a whole lot MORE people don't get born.

Indeed women kill 10x more people, unborn babies, than hitler was even ALLEGED to have killed (but didn't).

No intelligent man can look at the change from 'every baby is precious' to 'babies are disposable' and NOT see that there is a depopulation agenda running. Only idiots can miss that one.....that would be you smithers. ;-)
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17) Um, yeah. Because without knowing the exact model they could not know it was a plane.
Are you suggesting not one single person in NY saw a plane hit the building?
Most people do not know what a 757 looks like.
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18) My mistakes mean you are wrong?
My assumptions are based on what you've been hammering here all along. It thus speaks lots about your position. If my assumptions are wrong then there is something not right about your version of the story.
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19) For the last time people. 24 was a TV show!
Welcome to America. You know what? These americans have super advanced spy satellites that can keep track of all the rodents in this world? They have all security systems far more advanced that you can read in sci-fi novels. And even then they somehow could not track down highly trained mountain men? Seriously how do you manage to swallow this?
And please please tell me what were the people inside pentagon doing ? Busy surfing adult sites? Flirting online?
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20) The 50,000 people that worked there must have hated their timecube offices that allowed them to not notice that most of the floors were missing.
from most accounts of people who have looked into this, the WTC was never really fully completed or occupied. There were only a few floors in each building, (etc)

sure, that is just the small amount of actual office equipment that as actually in the WTC to create the illusion of full occupancy. I can see how they would have had to remove whatever relatively small amount of offices that actually existed, but the point that the researchers are making is that most of both towers were actually empty, and not just empty of offices, but empty of floors.
 
11 and 15 because of the stupid, it burns. 19 because the guy is worth it.
 
Some of the ones from this month really did make me chuckle.
 
#11, because it's the sort of standard any future Stundie should be measured by. It's so simple, yet still so facepalming wrong.
 
I suppose voting for all of them would kind of defeat the object of the exercise....

:hb:

Rolfe.
 
I usually try to restrict myself to voting for three options, but I had to go with five this time. 3, 10, 13, 14, and 18.

3 is just wonderful - he's slapped together just about every WTC CT - Bombs, thermite, no planes, melted steel - and then thrown in his own nonsense abut the Tower being made "safer" by being built to collapse in an earthquake, and then having the NWO fake an earthquake.

And 18 is just such a nice summation of what arguing against a strawman is like....
 
I see "open minds require an absence of evidence" is doing well. That's very similar to the one that won in July, too.

3 and 16 are commending themselves to me....

Rolfe.
 
3 is so over the top that it makes me wonder if the guy is not over the top satirical.
4 is sweet and short and cute and plain stupid
8 - I hate Windows as much as anybody, but c'mon...
9 - "I know nothing about the subject and am too dumb to google it, so you guys must be wrong"
11 shows how easy it is to perplex and confuse twoofies
14 for admitting the Nazis killed 12 million
16 - I love all those depopulation programs that doubled world population during my own lifetime. I wish they had robbers that keep robbing me until my wealth has doubled!
20 invokes slap stick images in my mind. Very funny!

So these get my votes.


Number 18 to me is not necessarily a Stundie! It's a stance that I have taken before: Kind of a Devil's Advocate thingie - accept your opponents (false) assumptions and go where they lead you. Can be an effective technique to show the absurdity of such arguments. Or sweeter even: Have your opponent prove your assumptions wrong, and then throw it back at him by pointing out they are really his assumption.
I haven't looked at the context. I know Java Man is not the sharpes knife in the drawer. But the quote, as it is, is not a Stundy, IMO.
(I actually checked if this was not my own quote :D)
 
I voted for quite a few, but I think 10 deserves honourable mention because it's kind of the ur-Stundie, the fundamental bedrock of delusionality on which all Stundies are founded.

Dave
 
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6) It's not like Fuel Air Bombs rely on even less.
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You are assuming kerosene is a very destructive explosive. Such is not the case. It does not expand anywhere near as fast as an "explosive" like C4 and there was only about a quart of kerosene per sq ft of floor space.

How big was that freight elevator? 10'x10'?
~36 gallons of kerosene in a 12'x12' shaft, 1,000 feet high will not cause any appreciable damage.
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How much do they use?
 
I've gone for 1 because that really sums up the mindset to me.
"I want to be special. Persecute me. Please!"

Oh, and I went for 8 because, well, it does explain ME and Vista...
 
I've gone for 1 because that really sums up the mindset to me.
"I want to be special. Persecute me. Please!"
Yup.

The way the Illuminati USED to make sure people died relatively young was to not allow decent plumbing and water supplies. If you read about roman architecture you will see that the wealthier had what you might consider 'running water' and the romans built aequduct by the score to gain access to clean water. This was all done away with and the poor water quality, poor sewerage system made sure that they killed off people relatively young.
:jaw-dropp

Maybe it's me, but I have physically walked across Roman aqueducts so I wondered how they had been "done away with." So I did a google image search for roman aqueducts... Wow.

ETA - 1 and 10, and 13 because the refusal to admit in court that you are Keith Thompson when your youtube account is "keiththompsonmusic" is pretty special.

Hey, my "moon-sized field of debris" inspired a winner! :)
 
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Close race so far; I'm still undecided.





OT: Travis, I like the new avatar photo. /OT
 
Still a three horse race! I'm bumping this thread back to page 1 for the late voters.
 

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