Can this possibly be true?

[TraneWreck]

There has been a disturbing rash of teens committing suicide over the past month because of bullying. The majority of the suicides were caused by ******** targeting these kids because they were gay. This led Dan Savage to put out a video, and request other do the same, describing how life gets better for homosexuals once they move into the larger world.



Of course, bullies cast a wider net, and I read an article on the Huffington Post about a suburb of Cleveland that has had 4 suicides over the past 2 years due to bullying. The parents of the last victim are filing a lawsuit arguing that the school district has been negligent in its handling of these situations.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/08/4-bullied-teen-deaths-at-_n_755461.html

But here's the part that jumped out at me:

Suzana Vidovic found her sister's body hanging over the front lawn. The family watched, she said, as the girls who had tormented Sladjana for months walked up to the casket – and laughed.

"They were laughing at the way she looked," Suzana says, crying. "Even though she died."

Can that be true? I'm hoping that this sister was so overcome by the emotion of the situation that she misinterpreted the girls' behavior, but if it is true...holy ****** That's sociopathic, is it not?

 

[HansMustermann]

Don't underestimate groupthink and the kind of things people will do just to belong to some group. If they think they have to laugh at the corpse of a classmate to belong to the cool kids' clique, they will.

 

[Accidental Martyr]

I can't imagine anyone, even teenage girls , acting like that. It's like some sort of insane sadistic behavior. It's like a serial-killer mocking his/her victim. I find it hard to believe that people at the funeral didn't tackle the girls and drag them out by their hair.
But, like you said, I guess there's the possibility of misinterpretation or something. If true though, these girls and their parents should be held responsible.

 

[Beerina]

The family watched, she said, as the girls who had tormented Sladjana for months walked up to the casket – and laughed.

Why were they allowed in by the family? Why did not someone take a poke at them for such an outrageous thing?


Only goes up to 2006, but beware of a few high-profile cases being declared a trend.

 

[Tony]

There has been a disturbing rash of teens committing suicide over the past month because of bullying. The majority of the suicides were caused by ******** targeting these kids because they were gay. This led Dan Savage to put out a video, and request other do the same, describing how life gets better for homosexuals once they move into the larger world.



Of course, bullies cast a wider net, and I read an article on the Huffington Post about a suburb of Cleveland that has had 4 suicides over the past 2 years due to bullying. The parents of the last victim are filing a lawsuit arguing that the school district has been negligent in its handling of these situations.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/08/4-bullied-teen-deaths-at-_n_755461.html

But here's the part that jumped out at me:



Can that be true? I'm hoping that this sister was so overcome by the emotion of the situation that she misinterpreted the girls' behavior, but if it is true...holy ****** That's sociopathic, is it not?

This is very disturbing if true. All I can say is that if this were my sister, and some stupid hoes were laughing over her body at her funeral, said hoes would be leaving the funeral on a stretcher.

About the suicides caused by bullying, I have to ask, where are the parents? How can they even let it get to that point? As a recent parent, I would never allow my son to be bullied like this. I would teach him self defense, take him out of school, confront the bullies myself, SOMETHING to change the situation and ensure the safety of my kid.

 

[shandyjan]

This is very disturbing if true. All I can say is that if this were my sister, and some stupid hoes were laughing over her body at her funeral, said hoes would be leaving the funeral on a stretcher.

About the suicides caused by bullying, I have to ask, where are the parents? How can they even let it get to that point? As a recent parent, I would never allow my son to be bullied like this. I would teach him self defense, take him out of school, confront the bullies myself, SOMETHING to change the situation and ensure the safety of my kid.

Children can be secretive. Parents can only help with what they know about, and children in puberty can be very impulsive. I know a child who attempted to hang himself, and I cannot fault his mum for her behaviour before it happened, nor her behaviour afterwards. It's very shocking that they can snap so badly, but I see it too many times comments on family and friends who 'must have known' and it doesn't help!

 

[Alareth]

According to an author at World Net Daily, that solution to reduce gay teen suicide is increased persecution of them.

 

[Accidental Martyr]

According to an author at World Net Daily, that solution to reduce gay teen suicide is increased persecution of them.

I guess that's part of "compassionate conservatism."

 

[Schrodinger's Cat]

I found that video really touching.

 

[Lolly]

I've seen several threads on here lately where posters have been apparently laughing at dead people. One about the Seqway boss, another about a man who crashed his Gopher into a lift and fell down the shaft and there was another one I can't remember. I was surprised and didn't really understand how it could be so amusing when somebody had died.

Yes, I think there is something wrong with girls who could behave like that.

 

[Scott Haley]

The one about people who died after breathing nitrous oxide: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186655

 

[Sir Robin Goodfellow]

While I too see no humour in the deaths of others, you must admit there is a difference between anonymous joking on an internet forum and disrupting a memorial service by laughing at the deceased in front of mourners.

 

[Lolly]

you must admit there is a difference between anonymous joking on an internet forum and disrupting a memorial service by laughing at the deceased in front of mourners.

I don't see a difference in the lack of sensitivity displayed to the person who died or their families and friends. There is a difference in the impact on the deceased's family - one is obvious and immediate, the other might be delayed or non-existent because the information may not be brought to their attention straight away, if at all.

 

[Meed]

I don't see a difference in the lack of sensitivity displayed to the person who died or their families and friends. There is a difference in the impact on the deceased's family

What is sensitivity if not cognizance of that impact?

 

[SezMe]

Children can be secretive. Parents can only help with what they know about, and children in puberty can be very impulsive.

Very true. Which is why the suit against the school is just crap.

 

[TraneWreck]

Very true. Which is why the suit against the school is just crap.

We'd need quite a bit more information to be able to draw conclusions about the suit. We don't know what the administration knew and how they reacted. There are a number of possible scenarios under which the suit is legitimate, a number where it isn't.

 

[TraneWreck]

I found that video really touching.

A lot of those videos are pretty powerful. I don't know how much of a difference they can make, but it certainly provides some optimism for a ton of kids in rough situations.

 

[MG1962]

I've seen several threads on here lately where posters have been apparently laughing at dead people. One about the Seqway boss, another about a man who crashed his Gopher into a lift and fell down the shaft and there was another one I can't remember. I was surprised and didn't really understand how it could be so amusing when somebody had died.

Yes, I think there is something wrong with girls who could behave like that.

I think in some situations the irony of the event plays a part. The Segway death is a prime example. I for one was not laughing at him, but the truely odd circumstances in which a device from a company he owned lead to his death

The wheelchair guy is simply confirmation of human stupidity. He directly contributed to his death through his irrational behaviour.

 

[Mark6]

I've seen several threads on here lately where posters have been apparently laughing at dead people. One about the Seqway boss, another about a man who crashed his Gopher into a lift and fell down the shaft and there was another one I can't remember. I was surprised and didn't really understand how it could be so amusing when somebody had died.

Yes, I think there is something wrong with girls who could behave like that.

I think there is a big difference between people who kill themselves because they were relentlessly hounded by bullies and saw no escape, and people who kill themselves through stupid and reckless behaviour (a.k.a. "Darwin Awards"). Laughing at the latter is acceptable IMO -- although not in actual presence of their relatives.

 

[Lolly]

Who are we to determine that behaviour is "stupid and reckless"? We don't know what stressors have led someone to behave in a certain way - a person who suddenly "goes berserk" may have just as much a "valid" reason as a bullying victim. IMO, laughing at anyone who has ended up dead is unacceptable. Yes, the circumstances surrounding certain deaths can be briefly amusing, but laughing yourself sick over it goes too far.