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Tea Party Candidate Christine O'Donnell Falsely Claimed to Have Attended Universities
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johnny karate
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Yeah, go with that.
"Sure I'm a moron and a fraud, but at least I'm not Obama!"
I think the only flaw in your masterful political strategy is that not everyone dislikes Obama and his policies. At least not enough to vote into office an unqualified huckster who's too terrified to make media appearances because she doesn't want to answer for the litany of inanities that constantly fall out of her mouth.
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Yeah, go with that.
"Sure I'm a moron and a fraud, but at least I'm not Obama!"
I think the only flaw in your masterful political strategy is that not everyone dislikes Obama and his policies. At least not enough to vote into office an unqualified huckster who's too terrified to make media appearances because she doesn't want to answer for the litany of inanities that constantly fall out of her mouth.
Come November we'll both have the answer. Of course she may not choose my campaign strategy. I'd agree dislike of Obama's policies is only at 60% +-.
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Very true. And part of me actually hopes she wins. The comedic potential is virtually endless.
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60%, really? I would be surprised if it was that high. I am not claiming that he is universally liked, but even when GWB was considered very unpopular with a 39% approval rating, which, when you consider fence sitters, would still leave less than 60% actively disliking his policies.
This is the exact same insular reasoning that my dad puts up with every day. Back in 2004, I was visiting and we went to a dinner party* with some friends of my stepmother. One of them was shocked to learn that he would likely vote for Bush because 'I don't know anybody who supports Bush'. These people were absolutely shocked that Bush ended up winning that election because they could not fathom that the majority of the country supported him.
*For context, the dinner party took place in San Fransisco. My dad lives just north in Marin County, CA.
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The sad thing is, the more she lies, the more will the "liberal main stream media" expose her lies, giving her more opportunity to declare himself unfailry attacked, which causes more and more teabaggers to rally behind her.
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I wouldn't be. Remember that what AlBell is talking about, the approval rating for Barack Obama's policies, is different from from the approval rating for Barack Obama.
Most of the polls we see are for Obama's performance as president. RealClearPolitics has a recent post which gives Obama's job approval ratings according to various polls along with a chart showing the average of these poll results. CNN has highest disapproval rating, 54%, and Rasmussen is close behind with 52%; Gallup has the lowest disapproval rating, at 46%. There's a similar range on the approval side, with CNN and Fox coming in lowest with 42% and Rasmussen and Newsweek coming in highest at 48%. The average is about 45% approval and about 50% disapproval
Which is reasonably good for a president at this point in his term. Gallup has a site which shows presidential approval ratings for all the presidents from Truman through Obama. At this point in his term Truman was around 37% approval; Reagan was around 42%; Clinton was around 44%. (Eisenhower was in the 60s and doing well; Kennedy was in the 60s but dropping fast; Nixon was in the 50s.)
But that's not what AlBell is talking about. He specifically referred to disapproval of Obama's policies. That's different.
A recent Harris online poll -- which may be the one AlBell is referring to -- did put disapproval of Obama's policies at 60%. But it didn't give a breakdown of how much of that is disapproval from the right and how much is disapproval from the left. The problem is that, without that breakdown, the 60% figure is not particularly meaningful.
Suppose, for instance, that 40% of people think Obama's policies are just about right; that 35% don't like his policies because they think his policies are too left-wing; and that 25% don't like his policies because they think his policies aren't left-wing enough. That would give a 60% disapproval rating for Obama's policies -- but it would not indicate 60% support for Tea Party policies such as O'Donnell's (which would be polling at 35% or under in this example).
We know there's considerable left-wing disapproval of Obama's policies. You can read it every day on sites such as FireDogLake, Daily Kos, Glenn Greenwald, Think Progress, Huffington Post, etc. The question is how large that disapproval is -- because you need to subtract that left-wing disapproval figure from the total disapproval figure to get the percent of those disapproving from the middle and from the right. But obviously, if the total disapproval figure is 60%, the per cent of people disapproving because they think Obama is too far to the left is less than 60%.
Should her lies not be exposed, then?
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I still think it's a net benefit. The victim card only goes so far when the criticisms are legitimate. Palin is popular with her base, but not so much with independents.
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generally a good artilce, but this one line deserves a 'No ****, Sherlock"
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Puppycow
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Can we get back to Christine O'Donnell?
Last time we checked, she denied making the LinkedIn profile that listed Oxford and Claremont Graduate University and also a ZoomInfo profile. And since then, there really hasn't been any further story about this. The press doesn't seem to be pressing her on it even though these claims are pretty clearly false.
Last time we checked, she denied making the LinkedIn profile that listed Oxford and Claremont Graduate University and also a ZoomInfo profile. And since then, there really hasn't been any further story about this. The press doesn't seem to be pressing her on it even though these claims are pretty clearly false.
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