Video Fakery in the 9/11 Attack

[Anders Lindman]

An estimated 70,000 people were involved directly in 9/11 either as first responders or in the investigation and clean-up tht followed.

The events were covered by thousands of reporters working for a hundreds unrelated news services from dozens of countries.

None of the workers and none of the reporters fault the massive news coverage of 9/11 and the days that followed.

None of them seem to have a problem with what they saw when compared to what the news coverage said.

All that news coverage exists in the archives of the NYC and Washington newspapers and tv stations.

All news coverage exists in the archives?! What about the 'live' video sequences from chopper 5 and 7 that the paper in the OP cites?

 

[BigAl]

All news coverage exists in the archives?! What about the 'live' video sequences from chopper 5 and 7 that the paper in the OP cites?

Why don't you research it.

I'm too lazy to do much research myself.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6347434#post6347434​

 

[excaza]

All news coverage exists in the archives?! What about the 'live' video sequences from chopper 5 and 7 that the paper in the OP cites?

yes, but that would mean you'd have to go talk to the news agency, and we all know you're not going to do any of your own work.

 

[Bell]

By all means, do not let posters like, say, Alien, try to manipulate information. No planes hit the WTC on 9/11 and the evidence confirming that claim is overwhelming. In fact, the entire PSYOP depends almost solely upon teevee imagery that is blatantly false.

Jerry Leaphart, there is NO evidence of t.v. fakery or that no planes have been used. But let's say you and Dewy Wood DO have evidence, what are you going to do with it? I suggest stepping to the UN. I mean, you already stepped to the UN asking to remove "anti semite" from the dictionary.



Did you almost start crying in that video?

 

[Bell]

Greetings Anders,

Thanks for your reply. I will post as I can, but I do hope you will gain in your confidence in the accuracy of your own conlcusions, be they of the NO PLANE variety or be they of the PLANE SPOTTER variety. Just keep on looking, listening, researching and, above all, thinking.

Jerry Leaphart, Anders already admitted he doesn't do research.

What happened to the passengers and crew of American 11, Jerry Leaphart?
What happened to the passengers and crew of United 175, Jerry Leaphart?
What happened to the passengers and crew of American 77, Jerry Leaphart?
What happened to the passengers and crew of United 93, Jerry Leaphart?

 

[EventHorizon]

Greetings Anders,

Thanks for your reply. I will post as I can, but I do hope you will gain in your confidence in the accuracy of your own conlcusions, be they of the NO PLANE variety or be they of the PLANE SPOTTER variety. Just keep on looking, listening, researching and, above all, thinking.

What he actually means to say is, keep ignoring, dodging, distorting and above all, lying.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Yes but if the government is faking videos is that not a sign of anything ?

You have proof of this?

 

[sheeplesnshills]

All news coverage exists in the archives?! What about the 'live' video sequences from chopper 5 and 7 that the paper in the OP cites?

Why would something being live prevent it being recorded as well? In fact why wouldn't they be recording it? Now whether or not they kept a recording is another question.

 

[djlunacee]

Shame on you, Alien, for seeking to foist off the above BS. I have already taken you to task for your misrepresentation in the Dick Oliver threads. The text contained in the tired photos from the NIST report that you post confirm that the photos do not contain authenticated aircraft parts from any airplane at all, let alone a jetliner, and still less a Boeing 767.

You are engaging in wanton misrepresentation, confirming, yet again, that the common storyline of 9/11 is false, fabricated and dependent upon manipulation in order to maintain its cover and facade.

Anders, I have elsewhere posted up what I consider to be the main sources of proof as it relates to proof of the NO PLANE claim.

Until recently, it had been claimed there were 43 video versions of that shadowy image, that I call "shadow thingy" hitting the WTC. Here is a link to a version of the ALL 43 videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc2tfVuaSrg

In this forum, a thread that resulted in more than 3800 posts was recently closed that dealt with the ALL43 video and with various aspects of the claim a jetliner hit the South Tower:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175654

In fact this current thread appears to have come along just after the prior one was closed, confirming ongoing NO PLANE interest. Chances are, the prior thread should not have been closed, or so it would appear.

For your reference, and for the benefit of this thread, let me here post, a good reference of the sources of proof of the NO PLANE claim:

You have no better or faster alternative other than that of reviewing the 60+ pages of the two Dick Oliver threads in this forum found at:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171082

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174043

Those threads deal with many of the witness accounts, as well as the valid video data and audio data.

You can also review the PAPD accounts can be found at:

http://adam.pra.to/public/mir/www.th...a-transcripts/

You should also take some time to familiarize yourself with the 503 Task Force Witness statements (which I claim is the single best source of witness accounts and a source that easily qualifies as valid evidence)

Those can be found at;

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...s_full_01.html

Once again, the above link is your best source of eyewitness information, bar none.

I also suggest you avoid like the plague the jingoistic debunker websites that provide newspaper accounts and that ignore, completely, the fact that there are NO PLANE witnesses.

Another interesing source is the Ginny Carr audio:

http://www.sonicmemorial.org/sonic/public/archive.jsp

type in Ginny Carr

And the following video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuIAC...ayer_embedded#!

The title of the above video is Amateur Footage Pt. 2, but I call it CMs Video.

The additional video, making the ALL43 actually 44:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuQl9hUC00k&feature=player_embedded

So, in review, you have (in order of importance, imho):

1--Task Force Witness Statements

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packag...12_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html

2--1:16 Dick Oliver video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVEmAWaKoYQ


3--10:00 Dick Oliver video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaQMiAR3cYQ&feature=player_embedded

4--ALL 43 second hits video. And the All43 thread:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175654

The addition to the ALL 43, making 44 videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuQl9hUC00k&feature=player_embedded

5--PAPD police reports

Main link: http://adam.pra.to/public/mir/www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-transcripts/

Reports:

http://adam.pra.to/public/mir/www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-transcripts/pa-police-reports01.pdf

http://adam.pra.to/public/mir/www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-transcripts/pa-police-reports02.pdf

http://adam.pra.to/public/mir/www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-transcripts/pa-police-reports03.pdf

http://adam.pra.to/public/mir/www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-transcripts/pa-police-reports04.pdf

6--CMs Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuIAC...ayer_embedded#!

7--Ginny Carr audio

To the above, we can also add the NIST, NCSTAR series found at:

http://wtc.nist.gov/NCSTAR1/

The NCSTAR complilation consists in multiple parts, sub-parts and appendices, totally more than 10,000pgs of inconclusive, fraudulent BS. However, the fact that so much data was compile to basically not even deal with what actually happened to the Twin Towers simply confirms that there is no official explanation of what happened.

One can also pay passing attention to the 9/11 Commission Report, that I won't even provide a link for because that source is so stupidly false and fraudulent that it isn't even worth it.

Finally, while inconclusive and underfunded, the FEMA report is worth a glance:

http://www.fema.gov/rebuild/mat/wtcstudy.shtm

We can add to this list some references to sources that debunkers like to refer to in support of their PLANE SPOTTER claim:

Ryan Mackey's slide show where he uses incomplete, simplistic assumptions to broadly support that jetliners could destroy the WTC, without in the least bit comparing his assumption riddled slide show with anything that was observed at the WTC. In the 46 slides relied on by Mackey, not a single one shows the WTC on 9/11. Not even one:

http://911myths.com/images/f/f0/911physics_big.pdf

By all means, do not let posters like, say, Alien, try to manipulate information. No planes hit the WTC on 9/11 and the evidence confirming that claim is overwhelming. In fact, the entire PSYOP depends almost solely upon teevee imagery that is blatantly false.

And once you go through all of the mumbo jumbo, handwaving and dodging jammonious did in both of the mentioned threads, you can only come to one conclusion. Planes were used, period.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Good Lord.

Anders,

Just for the record, could you please give us your explanation for what happened on 11-September, 2001.

Here is a link to the proper thread.

Thank you.

Certainly. I'm glad you asked. The 911 attack was an inside job. Or outside job, if you want to use that term. Complete video fakery regarding 'live' video feeds and consequent video recordings. Don't believe the lie. Don't believe the hype. Expose you, we will. Yoda says.

 

[excaza]

Yoda never said that.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Complete video fakery regarding 'live' video feeds and consequent video recordings.

How do you believe they achieved it?

What hardware & software would they have used, how would they have set it up and how could you tell?

Can you show us any other examples of special effects inserted into live TV from multiple cameras, so that we can compare the techniques? A description of how the comparable effect was achieved would be most helpful.

 

[Bell]

Yoda never said that.

Of course not. Anders doesn't do research.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Greetings Anders,

Thanks for your reply. I will post as I can, but I do hope you will gain in your confidence in the accuracy of your own conlcusions, be they of the NO PLANE variety or be they of the PLANE SPOTTER variety. Just keep on looking, listening, researching and, above all, thinking.

Thanks. Let's expose this video fakery once and for all. I have already posted conclusive evidence of extreme beforehand planning pretending to be amateur video films. Fool me, they cannot.

 

[carlitos]

Certainly. I'm glad you asked. The 911 attack was an inside job. Or outside job, if you want to use that term. Complete video fakery regarding 'live' video feeds and consequent video recordings. Don't believe the lie. Don't believe the hype. Expose you, we will. Yoda says.

If you follow the link that I provided, you there have the opportunity to stay on-topic and further explain your theory. Start with "Who" did the fakery, then "Why," then "How," etc.

 

[BigAl]

Thanks. Let's expose this video fakery once and for all. I have already posted conclusive evidence of extreme beforehand planning pretending to be amateur video films. Fool me, they cannot.

So what?

It does nothing to disprove any of the massive amount of evidence we have that shows that 19 Arab Islamists hijacked 4 planes on 9/11 and this caused all the death and destruction.

 

[Bell]

Thanks. Let's expose this video fakery once and for all. I have already posted conclusive evidence of extreme beforehand planning pretending to be amateur video films. Fool me, they cannot.

I think I missed this. What conclusive evidence?

 

[alienentity]

Thanks. Let's expose this video fakery once and for all. I have already posted conclusive evidence of extreme beforehand planning pretending to be amateur video films. Fool me, they cannot.

Put you on ignore, I will.

 

[Sabretooth]

Yes, but were they real, physical jets or only computer graphics?

You're only a computer graphic...and yet you still exist? Throw that logic into your no-plane nonsense...

 

[caniswalensis]

Why didn't the man in the white uniform react to a roaring jet flying over them at very low altitude and incredible speed?

[qimg]http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3331/95680511.jpg[/qimg]

Maybe he is a ghost?

If we are looking at a residual haunting here, then it only makes sense that he would not have reacted to the plane like the living humans around him.