You are freaken funny! LCF is into erasing dissent. The moron JFK, is a sad statement on humanity. Would have done well in Stalin's back pocket! Pathetic!
GOT NO PLANERS? Or REALITY? Pffftttt...
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You are freaken funny! LCF is into erasing dissent. The moron JFK, is a sad statement on humanity. Would have done well in Stalin's back pocket! Pathetic!
GOT NO PLANERS? Or REALITY? Pffftttt...
sheeplesnshills
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As I said I cannot even look at the forum anymore. Balsammo is really into tracking down IPs and blocking them (I'll have a try again and see what I can find on P4T and 911oz if its still there). Both tolerate appalling behavior and language from "believers" but will quickly move to block then eject anyone that questions what they assert.
I'm signing up with loose change today to see whats its like
ROTFLOL I posted this:
Mr Morin is a SOC witness or no witness at all................
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http://s643.photobucket.c...agonandcitgoannotated.jpg
The red line indicates the CIT north of the Citgo routing. Mr Morin describes himself as being about ten feet into the middle leg of the Navy Annex and that the plane passed over his head. he said he ran out and watched it fly down and collide with the Pentagon. As you can see from the above the plane must have flown either close along the edge of the navy annex and parallel with it or even further out over Columbia pike for him to have done so.
If it had really taken the CT supposed route north of the Citgo he would have seen nothing after it passed over his head as the navy annex ( a four floor high and blocks long building) would have blocked his line of sight.
That leaves two options.
a) he is lying about what he saw which means his entire account is suspect. We could not rely on his speed estimate nor his account of the aircraft going over his head. In that event he is no longer a witness to anything.
b) He is just a little mistaken. What he may have thought was the plane going over his head may simply have been its SHADOW. It actually was flying over Columbia Pike (you can look at google earth and you can see that the Pike is east of the Navy annex and that time of the morning the sun would not have been that high in the sky. He turned and ran to the end of the street and would have seen the aircraft already past the end of the annex and drop down and probably just out of his sight as it hit the Pentagon. If it had gone over the top and pulled hard right (as it would have had to do for Roosevelt Roberts to see it) it would have pulled clear of the smoke and been very visible against the skyline.
Mr Morin says quite clearly it was close to the edge of the navy annex with its wing sticking out. The interviewer asks him if it was on the south side and he says no but that does not mean it was way to the north as assumed by the makers. In fact as I have shown Mr Morin could only have seen it IF it was on the edge of the navy annex or over Columbia Pike.
and within 5 hours I get this reply...........
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/3083747/10/?x=0#post462682
So much for wanting the truth."
They are so scared of the real truth they won't even debate the simplest of points in a Truther assertion.
Childlike Empress
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You received the proper response. Even if the excuse you've found to convince yourself that Morin doesn't describe what he obviously did would be valid, then Morin would simply contradict all the other witnesses who describe the same as he does: that the plane flew over the annex.
You are free to believe what you want, but don't expect people to allow you on their own soil to waste their time with your discomposed denial.
You are free to believe what you want, but don't expect people to allow you on their own soil to waste their time with your discomposed denial.
triforcharity
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Point made. Enough said.
Childlike Empress
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Hokulele
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Is that not what the truthers constantly cry about the evil government and MSM are doing?
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sheeplesnshills
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Mr Morin probably did see exactly what he describes but in that case he is a SOC witness as he cannot possibly have seen the plane fly down to and hit the pentagon otherwise. This not opinion, it is fact because the Navy Annex prevents anything else.
If CIT want to drop him as a witness, thats fine with me, just they can no longer plausibly claim him as a NOC witness. His is one of the few witnessses in the CIT story that can be definitively shown to have witnessed a SOC flightpath. By continuing to deny that they just call into question all their statements.
Please, if you see any inaccuracy in what I posted, let me know.
TexasJack
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I didn't realize that LC was now a no-planer forum.
It's a funny place, you can give well-reasoned arguments and get banished to the unworthy section. Yet, if you post rubbish like Bush is going to start dropping nukes, declare martial law, and suspend the elections, you're considered normal.
I would say that LCF is a cross between Animal Farm and Animal House.
It's a funny place, you can give well-reasoned arguments and get banished to the unworthy section. Yet, if you post rubbish like Bush is going to start dropping nukes, declare martial law, and suspend the elections, you're considered normal.
I would say that LCF is a cross between Animal Farm and Animal House.
Childlike Empress
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This was explained over and over again, in general and to you. If you were interested in the answer, you would have found it by now - for example on CITs forum, which is for research, not discussion purposes. The 911oz forum, btw, is still full of anti-CIT posts, so if they banned you it certainly wasn't because of the topic.
After years and years of sock puppet armies with deaf ears and mean attitudes disrupting those places, they have every right to show you the door.
Brainster
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I'm one of the rare 2006-vintage debunkers who was never banned from the Loose Change Forums. Rather, I was suspended the first day I joined (for three months) and only posted once after the suspension ended in response to a direct request by Dylan.
I was actually IP banned over at 9-11 Blogger for about 6 months so that I had to use a proxy server to see the site. I'm not sure if they lifted the ban intentionally or not, and not about to test their current hospitality by posting a blog or a comment.
I was banned from the chatroom at Truth Action. And I note that inappropriately named 911debunkers blog does not allow comments from anybody but their own members.
I was actually IP banned over at 9-11 Blogger for about 6 months so that I had to use a proxy server to see the site. I'm not sure if they lifted the ban intentionally or not, and not about to test their current hospitality by posting a blog or a comment.
I was banned from the chatroom at Truth Action. And I note that inappropriately named 911debunkers blog does not allow comments from anybody but their own members.
Childlike Empress
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Pat, funny you show up! Yesterday i payed my occasional visit to your charming little blog and found this comment thread. Hell, what's going on there? With the (every) amount of foul language (be warned visitors) you allow over there, i wonder what all those deleted posts may have contained?
Pat Curley AKA Brainster said:
Gotta love your audience, Pat - it's of course the "troofers" fault, they figure:
Billman said:
Tsk Tsk.
Hokulele
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And now a tu quoque. How surprising...
Oystein
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Ooh, JFK found me out at LCG, going off-topic on a thread that discusses smoke puffs just before (actually after) the second hit, to quote my OP here:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/3788017/1/#new
So I guess he'll be careful with me, lest he feeds the flames
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/3788017/1/#new
So I guess he'll be careful with me, lest he feeds the flames
Garb
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That is the exact opposite of CIT.
waypastvne
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Oystein you should to add displacement of the building into your argument. There are lots of reports of the building swaying on impact. I did a quick calculation: if the building swayed 10 ft to the north it would have to displace 1352000 cubic feet of air. On its return and 8 ft past center to the south it would leave a 2433600 cu ft vacuum in its wake that would need to be filled rather quickly. This to me is the most likely cause of the puff of smoke in the video.
All CIT witnesses are point to the south flight path, as is Morin. CIT censors the truth by being stupid. RADAR points to the south flight path, but that is censored by CIT.
All CIT witnesses say 77 impacted the Pentagon. That is censored by CIT.
Can't have the truth show up at delusional forums where lies and hearsay rule.