Controlled demolition vs. the towers collapsing

[jaydeehess]

Irrelevant. There was no explosive demolition at WTC.

Nor were there at the Mayfair hotel
http://www.630ched.com/Channels/Reg/NewsLocal/Story.aspx?ID=1251252

 

[Java Man]

yes but you see the fist represents the top section of the towers, the stuff in the middle, is an explanation for the lateral ejection you truthers get so hung up on.

Oh why do I bother.

TAM

Tried it,

but except for a lot of ketchup and well bits of tomato most all remained inside. Just like the WTC where lots of cloud blew out, but most stayed inside.

 

[T.A.M.]

that doesnt look like a big mac...you used a regular burger, didnt you. It doesnt even look like you got any toppings on it either...tsk tsk tsk

TAM

Next time do a youtube video for us instead...like the mask though.

 

[carlitos]

delete

 

[Java Man]

Of course, the vast majority of the building fell essentially downward, but that is a far cry from the truther canard that WTC1/2 fell "essentially" into their own foot print.

TAM

Well essentially the images shown indicate low amounts of damage in the upper floors of surrounding buildings. So clearly not much was falling on them from the sky, but rather blew out at lower levels. Like my ketchup.

 

[triforcharity]

And those debris bits falling to the side amount to? By the looks of it it's like half the side of the outer wall worth four stories high. In other words 0.5% of the whole outer structure. Hardly something to call mom about.

Yeah, ok, if you believe that load of horse ****, I got a bridge I would love to sell you.

BTW, here is the aproximate size and location of 1&2 WTC's footprints.

How much steel and debris is OUTSIDE of the footprint?

Many many hundreds of tons.

 

[T.A.M.]

oh come on...now i am upset...you didn't really do it...you just linked someone elses pic...

http://lovestoryinbloodred.com/b2/media/alien-kills-burger-(burger-.gif

TAM

 

[Java Man]

that doesnt look like a big mac...you used a regular burger, didnt you. It doesnt even look like you got any toppings on it either...tsk tsk tsk

TAM

Next time do a youtube video for us instead...like the mask though.

Mhh still no luck. Look how it ended

 

[T.A.M.]

Mhh still no luck. Look how it ended

[qimg]http://www.hearye.org/media/2006/doublelb-unwrap.jpg[/qimg]

sorry, after your blatant robbery, posted as your own, of the first pic, I think you lied to us about the entire event...you have become that which you despise...

TAM

 

[Java Man]

Yeah, ok, if you believe that load of horse ****, I got a bridge I would love to sell you.

BTW, here is the aproximate size and location of 1&2 WTC's footprints.

[qimg]http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h131/triathlete247/WTC%20Attack/wtcaprox.png[/qimg]

How much steel and debris is OUTSIDE of the footprint?

Many many hundreds of tons.

That's pretty much its footprint. Or do you really take the controlled demolition claims literally. Like they literally drop it inside the outer walls? You are naive beyond belief.

Yet for a building 400m+ tall it is quite a feat to have everything within such a small area. It's like 50% extra of of the footprints side. Not bad for a building that tall.

 

[Java Man]

sorry, after your blatant robbery, posted as your own, of the first pic, I think you lied to us about the entire event...you have become that which you despise...

TAM

Well you get to quote the NIST report which isn't your work. Why can't I use somebody else's picture?

 

[triforcharity]

Well essentially the images shown indicate low amounts of damage in the upper floors of surrounding buildings. So clearly not much was falling on them from the sky, but rather blew out at lower levels. Like my ketchup.

Really?

I beg to differ.

This, BTW, is the Banker's Trust Building.

What were you saying? Something about the majority of damage done to the ground floor of the surrounding structures???

 

[triforcharity]

That's pretty much its footprint. Or do you really take the controlled demolition claims literally. Like they literally drop it inside the outer walls? You are naive beyond belief.

Yet for a building 400m+ tall it is quite a feat to have everything within such a small area. It's like 50% extra of of the footprints side. Not bad for a building that tall.

Lets see, Ground Zero = 16 Acres aproximately.

WTC 1&2 Footprints? 2 acres combined.....

Yeah, obviously math is not your strong point either.

Listen, you can sit here and argue all day long, that the sky is green, and the grass is blue, but you still will be wrong. No matter how much you put your fingers in your ears and chant "La La La- I can't hear you. " you're still just a screaming child with your fingers in their ears.

 

[Java Man]

If this:

Is pretty much one piece breaking through the outer wall. Imagine how much damage would have been produced if the building hadn't fallen on it's footprint and had toppled over instead. Dropping the weight of many floors on the neighboring buildings.

 

[triforcharity]

Well you get to quote the NIST report which isn't your work. Why can't I use somebody else's picture?

We don't imply that it is our own, liar.

 

[T.A.M.]

Well you get to quote the NIST report which isn't your work. Why can't I use somebody else's picture?

oh you can, but originally you presented it as if you had done it yourself...and I thought, wow, as much as I disagree with him, this guy actually took the time, even out of fun, to put my example to the test.

but something told me that was not to be, so I did a google image search under "Alien Burger" and voila, it was like the third image.

TAM

 

[triforcharity]

If this:

[qimg]http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h131/triathlete247/WTC%20Attack/abankers.jpg[/qimg]

Is pretty much one piece breaking through the outer wall. Imagine how much damage would have been produced if the building hadn't fallen on it's footprint and had toppled over instead. Dropping the weight of many floors on the neighboring buildings.

Wow, that GIANT GAPING HOLE in the side of the building, with MANY MANY broken windows, and hundreds of tons of steel laying at the base of the building, is a little damage, I would love to live in your world. That would mean Katrina was just an afternoon thunderstorm.

BTW, you're correct, that if the towers had toppled over like a tree (physically impossible for this type of structure with this type of damage) yes, the mess would have been much more.

But to claim, over and over again, that WTC 1&2 fell into it's own footprint, is just ******* stupid.

You remind me of someone.......

 

[Java Man]

Lets see, Ground Zero = 16 Acres aproximately.

WTC 1&2 Footprints? 2 acres combined.....

Wow, that's a lot of area. That's like 8 times more. It's like uhhh well actually only the area inside the four streets surrounding the WTC.

So you're trying to impress us with 16 acres which isn't really enough to cross the street.

 

[Java Man]

But to claim, over and over again, that WTC 1&2 fell into it's own footprint, is just ******* stupid.

You remind me of someone.......

Really, then how do you explain lack of serious damage on the upper half of the building you showed us? A big cloud falling would have damaged the building from the top down, not just the lower half.

 

[triforcharity]

Wow, that's a lot of area. That's like 8 times more. It's like uhhh well actually only the area inside the four streets surrounding the WTC.

So you're trying to impress us with 16 acres which isn't really enough to cross the street.

Really? Only enough to cross the street? Tell that to the people of Lower Manhattan, who were not allowed to return to the area, due to the fact that crap was everywhere.

Heavy debris was located from Albany Street to Barclay St going N-S, and from the East side of West (1 World Financial Center and the Botanical Gardens) to the buildings on the east side of Church street, I would say that you are wrong again.

You are like a factory of fail........