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Invitation to Derek Johnson to discuss his ideas

bill smith said:
Oh, I think it could be managed pretty easily. There was no real rush remember ? A Painter here and a painter there with his tank on wheels and his little electric pump with the tube running into the hole in the core column. Nighttime and the lights are burning into the wee hours as the agents of the perps are pumping pumping pumping. Nah...no sweat at all.
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I added an edit to that post after the fact. This is important as well:

EDIT: I also want to point out some other issues with nanothermite. Quoting from the wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanothermite

In 2002, the production of nano-sized aluminum particles required considerable effort, and commercial sources for the material were limited.
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This suggests that the amount of nanothermite needed for your operation would have been impossible to achieve on 9/11.

Also:

The thermite reaction releases dangerous ultra-violet (UV) light requiring that the reaction not be viewed directly, or that special eye protection (for example, a welder's mask) be worn.
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The amount of nanothermite you're proposing would be, in layman's terms, brighter than s***! How was such a visual display of ridiculously brilliant light lost on the millions to witness the events of the day?

Shall we start a new thread to discuss? I haven't checked to see if this specific theory has been covered.
 
Actually there are zero first-hand reports of pools or rivers of molten metal (or molten steel) in or under the rubble piles. And of course no photographs, of this supposed remarkable phenomenon that would immediately capture the interest of anyone with a camera.

There is as far as I know one description of excavated rubble "dripping with molten steel" and several first- and second-hand descriptions of the flow of a relatively small amount of viscous glowing fluid from one tower during the fire which was also recorded on video.

Of course I could be wrong. If I am it should be easy to show.

If the material reported "dripping" from rubble was indeed molten steel, its most remarkable feature would not be that it was dripping but that it was glowing intensely bright (as steel hot enough to be molten and drip would have to be). So it probably was not steel. Molten solder dripping from hot (but not even glowing) copper pipes is one possibility, which would be likely to occur and easy to see.

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
sabretooth47 said:
I added an edit to that post after the fact. This is important as well:

EDIT: I also want to point out some other issues with nanothermite. Quoting from the wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanothermite



This suggests that the amount of nanothermite needed for your operation would have been impossible to achieve on 9/11.

Also:



The amount of nanothermite you're proposing would be, in layman's terms, brighter than s***! How was such a visual display of ridiculously brilliant light lost on the millions to witness the events of the day?

Shall we start a new thread to discuss? I haven't checked to see if this specific theory has been covered.
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Why are you talking about commercial production when you should be looking at the far more advanced military operation ? Do you know who else was up to their ears in the study of nanothermite ?....this will kill you....NIST..lol


As regards the glare of the nanothermite which would have been immense. The FIREPROOFING made excellent LIGHTPROOFING.
 
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bill smith said:
Why are you talking about commercial production when you should be looking at the far more advanced military operation ? Do you know who else was up to their ears in the study of nanothermite ?....this will kill you....NIST..lol
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Right, I should have saw that coming...:boggled:

bill smith said:
As regards the glare of the nanothermite which would have been immense. The FIREPROOFING made excellent LIGHTPROOFING.
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So, you say, that millions of pounds of nanothermite...the same nanothermite that you propose melted steel girders into a pool of quivering liquid...can melt steel and not the comparably fragile fireproofing material?

AND, you say, that the military ops dudes first took the time to scrape off all the fireproofing...insert their gooey nanothermite...wait for it to dry...then reapply the fireproofing??

O. M. G.
 
excaza said:
Can you substantiate anything you post, or do you just enjoy flapping away?
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I can make an extremely strong case for the 10,000 tons of molten iron in the basement.
I can make a strong case for the movement or 'settling' of the building after the 35%-odd of columns were ignited and melted and I can show that the 360-foot antenna on the roof, the support of which was dependent on the core columns started falling vertically into the building before there was any other movement visible to the naked eye.
I think I have a case that deserves serious study.
 
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So do it.

I say it was elves with explosive fairy dust. Our theories have the same merit.
 
sabretooth47 said:
Right, I should have saw that coming...:boggled:



So, you say, that millions of pounds of nanothermite...the same nanothermite that you propose melted steel girders into a pool of quivering liquid...can melt steel and not the comparably fragile fireproofing material?

AND, you say, that the military ops dudes first took the time to scrape off all the fireproofing...insert their gooey nanothermite...wait for it to dry...then reapply the fireproofing??

O. M. G.
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I don't believe that the fireproofing was fragile- especially after it had been cooked by the igniting nanothermite and the instantly melting steel. Did you know that the fireproofing contained portland cement ? That was a surprise to me too.

But now I think I will show you something amazing... We will talk after you view it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dWBBEtA5bI&NR=1
 
You said they melted the core columns and they fell vertically before the rest of the building, and to support this you post a video of them not falling vertically before the rest of the building?
 
excaza said:
You said they melted the core columns and they fell vertically before the rest of the building, and to support this you post a video of them not falling vertically before the rest of the building?
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Think....I've given enough clues
 
What, the special forces soldiers pretending to be painters took a week off and missed an entire side?

I'm not here to play games, if you have something to present, present it.
 
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excaza said:
You said they melted the core columns and they fell vertically before the rest of the building, and to support this you post a video of them not falling vertically before the rest of the building?
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Consider the hypotheses that bill smith's only goal on these forums is to add to the hit counts of truther-related web addresses and videos.

Do you find that in that light his posts and general behavior fall into a much more consistent pattern? I certainly do.

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
bill smith said:
I don't believe that the fireproofing was fragile- especially after it had been cooked by the igniting nanothermite and the instantly melting steel. Did you know that the fireproofing contained portland cement ? That was a surprise to me too.
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I'll save ^this for later...

bill smith said:
But now I think I will show you something amazing... We will talk after you view it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dWBBEtA5bI&NR=1
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Alright, I watched it...I can't wait to hear this one...
 
Myriad said:
Consider the hypotheses that bill smith's only goal on these forums is to add to the hit counts of truther-related web addresses and videos.

Do you find that in that light his posts and general behavior fall into a much more consistent pattern? I certainly do.

Respectfully,
Myriad
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It's too early to panic Myriad. I think that is the first vdeo I've posted here in ages by the way.
 
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The WTC fire insulation under the floors flaked off if you touched it with anything. The fire insulation on the steel beams in the core was wallboard, a fist can smash through wallboard, and people in an elevator on 911 cut through wallboard to save themselves.

911 truth only goal is to spread lies and fail. They always achieve their goal. Wait for it, I think a "pull it" is coming soon to this thread.

Derek in his talk say pre-demolition blast were about to begin (thermite blasts?), as Jennings was told to leave the building. Morning blasts? Don't need thermite, office fires have more heat than what amount of thermite, Derek? OOPS, Derek only ask questions he says he has the answer safe, must be in Al Gore's lock-box, where Perot is hiding.

Now it it is blasts that did WTC 7. Poor guy says people witnesses blast that blew the windows out and fails to realize a blast that close would kill that person. Cheery picking, quote mining, these are the skills shown by Derek as he spreads false information, hearsay, lies and fantasy to mostly empty auditoriums.
 
bill smith said:
Why are you talking about commercial production when you should be looking at the far more advanced military operation ? Do you know who else was up to their ears in the study of nanothermite ?....this will kill you....NIST..lol...
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I told you before: nano-thermite necessarily has LESS energy per mass unit than ordinary thermite. You'd need even MORE of that to melt your 8.000 tons of steel.

Educate yourself on the subject matter beforre you talk stupid.
 
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