Derek,
I need to see where exactly "NIST specifically says that the external north wall fell, for approximately 100' at approximately g".
Where does NIST specifically say this Tom TFK at JREF? I'm looking at p. 602 of NCSTAR 1-9 right now...where, exactly?
You don't seem illiterate...
Do you understand what it means when someone puts something into quotation marks?
Do you understand what it means when they do not?
Please show me anywhere, in any of my posts, that I said that I was
quoting NIST from page 602 in that "NIST specifically says ..." statement above.
That was my (accurate) phraseology of NIST's conclusions.
105' falls into my definition of "approximately 100'."
NIST says that their MODEL exhibits an acceleration of "g". NIST says that their MODEL is a linear, least square
approximation of the real event.
Now, in reference to what NIST does say on page 602 of NCSTAR1-9, what part of "In Stage 2,
the north face descended at gravitational acceleration" is impenetrable to you??
Did you not find the specific quotes on pages 598 & 599 that I referenced that prove that NIST was talking about the north wall & not about the whole building??
Are you unable to stretch your intellect to realize the inevitable conclusion that is contained within the sentence "The horizontal progression of buckling interior columns could not have been observed from the street..."? Meaning that "the collapse of the
interior of the building was occurring, but not visible from the street."
You can't possibly this comprehension-challenged, can you?
You are supposed to be an engineer. You are supposed to be able to read technical publications FOR COMPREHENSION. Not like some vacuous teenager or internet blogger who can do no more than brainlessly cut & paste.
There are only two possibilities here, Derek.
1. (Your claim) NIST intends the "Stage 1, 2 & 3 timings to describe the descent of the entire building".
or
2. (My claim) NIST intends the "Stage 1, 2 & 3 timings to refer to the descent of the north exterior wall of the building".
Those are the only options.
If your contention is true, then WHAT THE HELL is NIST saying is collapsing for 13 full seconds before the north wall begins to fall??
Somebody here is lying and others who read this thread will not have to strain too much to figure it out.
Somebody is f'ken incompetent.
And, trust me, there is no strain involved in coming to that conclusion.
Please answer my questions. Please stop evading them.
If you are right, then what the hell does NIST say is collapsing for the 13 seconds before the wall begins to descend?
Please explain what you think that NIST suggests "broke" (on page 609, NCSTAR1-9) during:
"3. Initial Local Failure...
4. Vertical Progression of Failure ...
5. Horizontal Progression of Failure ..."
tom
