A Qur'an Got Burnt at 9/11 Mosque Protest

[SnakeTongue]

"The psyop is working well in media outlets, sir!"



"We have achieved our goal in insert misconceptions into people critical thinking, sir!"



"By shaping the media channels and raising the debate, we had a created potential enemy to be used as scapegoat, sir!"



"The central department of public affair indicates the USA general public will be open to more suggestions if constitutional rights are part of the controversy, sir!"

 

[Thunder]

Funny, Christians murdered several of my relatives during WW2. And yet, no one has ever told me to blame all Christians...then AND now.

 

[tsig]

Not to mention that if Muslims were all about the eradication of other religions, they'd probably want to start at home. Why haven't they? Here's a small group of people blatantly following another religion deep in the heart of islamic territories. They have no superpower backing them. There's nobody to defend them. They're defenseless. Why are they still there?

Probably because they are Islamic.

Yazidism, is a branch of Yazdânism, and is seen as a highly syncretic complex of local Kurdish beliefs and Islamic Sufi doctrine

 

[Thunder]

this thread has turned into one big hatefest against 1.5 billion Muslims, most of whom are peaceful people who mind their own business and just want to be left alone.

 

[tsig]

don't hold back, tell us what you REALLY think about Islam.

Do you want a fatwa on him too?

 

[Thunder]

Do you want a fatwa on him too?

sure, why not.

non-binding religious opinions never hurt anyone.

 

[DC]

There is no consipracy. It is out their in the open.
There is no central authority planning or determinning to conquer the world.
It is grass root affect. Each Islamo-robot are independent but have same common goal.
There is no consipiracy.

It is true they have the same hopes and dreams. But they think the best way to achieve it is by caliphat, sharia laws. They are fully convinced that every word in the quran is the litteral word of Allah (not of God).
They think, interestless financing is the best way. They think true Islamic laws are suprior to Western laws.
Yes, they have the same dreams but they are deluded about the mean of getting their.

It is so foolish to say that they have the same hope and dreams.
Socialists also has the same dream, that is justice for all, good economical development, good education for their children etc. Of course, they do.
But now even Cuba's leader Castro recognized that Capitalism is probably better than Socialism.

So, just ask yourself, which way is better?
1) Islamic caliphat, Sharia Laws, dictatorship
Or
2) the Western way.

That's all.

you are confusing the Muslims with the Borg.

 

[DC]

So you claim you understand Islam better than those who die for it?

no, but some people i know certainly do know Islam very deeply.

 

[DC]

KORAN commands to kill infidels:

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43

http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/Koran.html

Just in case your post was overlooked.

so when i drive Muslims out of their country or conquer their country, i must expect to get killed? well that sounds pretty reasonable.

ETA: and the first two are standard fearmongering of Jehova, not impressed.

 

[noreligion]

Islam did not attack the US. Extremist fundamentalists did. Finding the cultural center offensive requires guilt-by-association-based interpretation.

Right, the inquisitions were not Christian either.

 

[DC]

Wake up ignorent, gullible Westerner, Football watching 6-pack joe...
do you even know how do they treat non-Muslims in the Islamic countries.
DO you know that non-Muslims are not even allowed in Mecca?
Do you that Pakistani Muslim routinely killing Ahmedi and Qadiani?
Do you know that Muslims hate Hindu more than Christians?

You know nothing about Muslim culture and childhood brainwashing.

have you even been in an Islamic country?

 

[Thunder]

they say that if it wasn't for 2,000 years of Christian persecution and murder, there would be maybe 100 million Jews on Earth.

thanks a lot, Christians.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

About wishing a Fatwa decreeing a death sentence like on Salman Rushdie, it's like wishing a Bill of Attainder upon someone in Medieval England.

 

[rwguinn]

Right, the inquisitions were not Christian either.

You folk will make any excuse for Islam, even if it means you have to go back in history 800 to a thousand years, huh?
(and drag the French into it)

 

[A'isha]

KORAN commands to kill infidels:

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

"Whoever is the enemy of Allah and His angels and his messengers and [the angels] Gabriel and Michael, so surely is Allah the enemy of the unbelievers." 2:98

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

"Surely those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers, these it is on whom is the curse of Allah and the angels and men all." 2:161

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

"Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors. And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful." (2:190-192)

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers. The Sacred month for the sacred month and all sacred things are (under the law of) retaliation; whoever then acts aggressively against you, inflict injury on him according to the injury he has inflicted on you and be careful (of your duty) to Allah and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil). " 2:193-194

"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah. But if they cease, then lo! Allah is Seer of what they do." 8:39

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

"Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not." 2:216

..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43

Seriously? Out of four whole verses, just three words?

"If ye have received a blow, the (disbelieving) people have received a blow the like thereof. These are (only) the vicissitudes which We cause to follow one another for mankind, to the end that Allah may know those who believe and may choose witnesses from among you; and Allah loveth not wrong-doers. And that Allah may prove [ie, test to determine the true quality of] those who believe, and may blight the disbelievers. Or deemed ye that ye would enter paradise while yet Allah knoweth not those of you who really strive, nor knoweth those (of you) who are steadfast? And verily ye used to wish for death before ye met it (in the field). Now ye have seen it with your eyes!" 3:140-143

Also translated as "If a wound has afflicted you (at Ohud), a wound like it has also afflicted the (unbelieving) people; and We bring these days to men by turns, and that Allah may know those who believe and take witnesses from among you; and Allah does not love the unjust. And that He may purge those who believe and deprive the unbelievers of blessings. Do you think that you will enter the garden while Allah has not yet known those who strive hard from among you, and (He has not) known the patient. And certainly you desired death before you met it, so indeed you have seen it and you look (at it)." 3:140-143

If you're going to quote the Qu'ran, at least do it right, instead of cutting and pasting from websites that don't even give the complete verse they purport to quote, much less the context.

 

[A'isha]

Probably because they are Islamic.

Yazidism, is a branch of Yazdânism, and is seen as a highly syncretic complex of local Kurdish beliefs and Islamic Sufi doctrine

You know how Sufis are treated in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, don't you?

No, I suppose you don't.

 

[noreligion]

You folk will make any excuse for Islam, even if it means you have to go back in history 800 to a thousand years, huh?
(and drag the French into it)

Huh? How am I making an excuse? You think the inquisition never happened?

 

[Thunder]

The Cow, 2:61

"Believers, Jews, Christians, and Sabeans- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does what is right- shall be rewarded by their Lord; they have nothing to fear or to regret"

 

[rwguinn]

Huh? How am I making an excuse? You think the inquisition never happened?

Have they happened in, say, the last 100 years? Are they happening today?
You think maybe the Western world got its **** together and outgrew the need for most of that?

 

[Thunder]

You think maybe the Western world got its **** together and outgrew the need for most of that?

Yugoslavia. 1992.

nuff' said.

Northern Ireland, up until 1994.

nuff' said.