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Invitation to Derek Johnson to discuss his ideas

Derek Johnson said:
The questions please, thanks.
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If you are an engineer with any skills left that were given to you at school, you could answer your silly questions. What happens when you get the CD delusion? Does your education ram dump?

Discuss your delusional claims before you go asking more questions you fail to understand and can't answer.



As late as five months after the attacks, in February 2002, firefighter Joe O'Toole saw a steel beam being lifted from deep underground at Ground Zero, which, he says, "was dripping from the molten steel."
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Are you saying it was steel?

What would make steel melt? If you say thermite you need to go get a refund on your education. And you need to experiment with thermite.

Gee, why was no iron found fused to the steel in the WTC, iron from a thermite reaction?

Questions please...
 
beachnut said:
Are you a member of Gage's group?

Was it thermite or explosives?

Where is your evidence.

If you are an engineer you can answer all your questions. If not, you are out of luck. The questions show a lack of knowledge in engineering. What kind of engineer are you?

You are discussing your ideas by asking questions. ... failure since it exposes your lack of knowledge.


Why do the posters for AE nuts on 911 say all three buildings fell at free fall speeds? Why do they lie?


Are you a melted steel guy? There was no melted steel. It would leave a pile of solid steel, like the piles of Al, and other metals which melt at lower temperatures. Found zero piles of melted steel.

Discuss some of your ideas on 911, stop asking questions you can't answer, it exposes your lack of knowledge in engineering and other areas.



You don't contribute to knowledge you ask idiotic questions.

You failed to say what kind of metal! It was not steel. Yes office fires can melt metal as long as the fires continue. I can melt metal in my fire pit with paper and wood. Any engineer in the world can answer this question.

How long does thermite stay melted? Not very long; that eliminates thermite.

If you can't answer your own questions, you should sue the engineering school for not educating you. Need a lawyer?
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Showing me molten bronze alloys does not prove anything, what metal fraction of WTC 7 is this, exactly?

Now, the questions posed in #905, 909, 915, please.

Thank you.
 
Derek Johnson said:
Please follow this link,

http://wtc.nist.gov/NCSTAR1/NCSTAR1-3index.htm

and please focus your eyes, if you can, on the part that states:

"The analysis focused on the WTC 1 and WTC 2. Although no steel was recovered from WTC 7, a 47-story building that also collapsed on September 11, properties for steel used in its construction were estimated based on literature and contemporaneous documents."

Thanks.
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You know why they couldn't get any steel from WTC. Don't be obtuse.
 
Derek Johnson said:
Showing me molten bronze alloys does not prove anything, what metal fraction of WTC 7 is this, exactly?

Now, the questions posed in #905, 909, 915, please.

Thank you.
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You post nonsense. If you are an engineer you can answer your own questions.

What fraction of what? Are you on drugs? (most likely talking to other posts)

Here is your post of more junk.

New York firefighters recalled in a documentary film, "heat so intense they encountered rivers of molten steel."
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Rivers? What would make rivers of molten steel?

BTW, In a fire I can make steel glow, which is molten; but it is not a river.

What in your scenario makes steel run in a river?

Why was no river of steel found in the WTC?

Why do you use hearsay to make a non point, no idea issue? What is your over all point and why have you failed to make progress for 9 years? Why have you failed for 9 years? Because you can't answer you questions, and have no idea what happen on 911.


Engineers have to answer their own questions; all you do is ask silly ones which a trained engineer can answer.
I am sick of debunkers not answering questions.

1. 100' unopposed drop
2. Molten steel
3. NIST models = video
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1. The inside of the building collapsed and the facade had nothing stopping it. Wow, hard, but done! Looks like a lay person or an engineer can do this.
2. NO molten steel was found. ZERO
3. NIST? A real engineer does not need NIST, NIST? You need NIST to understand buildings collapse due to fires not fought. Ask a fireman, no engineer needed on this one!!!
 
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Derek Johnson said:
Yes, the Centex engineers got my newsletter, and there have been a lot of discussions since. Btw, this was posted previously.

Now the questions please, thanks.
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Just one question:
-Did that newsletter contain the LIES about that molten steel crap?
Oh and another:
- When will you stop retelling that lie?

Ah heck, and while we are at it:
- When will you show us that eye witnesses can identify glowing stuff as molten steel by just looking at it? Please take the test.
- And what hypothesis could possibly link molten steel, observed days, weeks and months after the event, to the event (assuming, just for argument's sake, that the reports of molten steel were actually true, which they are of course not)?

All these questions were posted previously.
Months ago.

High time to use your brain, learn, and STOP THE LYING.
 
I have posted this before, but maybe too small. So here it goes again, for Derek:


"Molten steel" reported by eye witness =/= Molten steel


Got it?
 
And another one for Derek:

Column failure on 8th floor
+ lateral bracing lost
+ internal structure already falling
= free fall for 8 floors

Got it?
 
Hey Derek - are you ready for your P.E. exam next month? Have you bought a copy of the MERM?
 
AZCat said:
Hey Derek - are you ready for your P.E. exam next month? Have you bought a copy of the MERM?
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I have the MERM yes, but I missed the October exam registration, it will be this coming spring. National Enrichment (NM) brought me back earlier this year and I missed the summer registration deadline. The demands of that job leave little room for anything else, but the experience from that project is plenty for my SER.

Oystein, beachnut:

The questions please (905, 909, 915) and reminded again in (917, 920, 922 and 931). I'm not interesting in your ramblings; I only want your answers to my questions. Please dedicate further posts to them only. Thank you.

Btw Oystein, your reply on 927 convinces me that you are not able to handle this subject...with anyone. I thought there was a higher caliber (that was TFK's claim anyway) at JREF, I'm disappointed.
 
Derek Johnson said:
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Oystein, beachnut:

The questions please (905, 909, 915) and reminded again in (917, 920, 922 and 931). I'm not interesting in your ramblings; I only want your answers to my questions. Please dedicate further posts to them only. Thank you.
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We have zero tolerance for liars. That's why we insist you retract your lies first.
You have avoided addressing my posts precisely because I know you are no match to them. You must know with clarity that YOU can't tell molten, glowing things apart, and it must have dawned on you, that neither can your supposed witnesses.
You surely have realized that molten steel, even if it existed days, weeks and months after the collapses, is NOT in any way, shape or form indicative of fould play. It certainly does NOT prove that explosives or incendiaries brought any building down on 9/11. It must bother you to no end that neither you nor your co-liars at AE911truth have been able to even come up with a hypothesis that would explain molten steel and building collapses. If you are both a decent and an intelligent man, I am sure you are ashamed of yourself.
There is one great way to get out of that shameful corner: Give up your claims, retract your lies, retreat from the liars' camp, and repent.

Derek Johnson said:
Btw Oystein, your reply on 927 convinces me that you are not able to handle this subject...with anyone. I thought there was a higher caliber (that was TFK's claim anyway) at JREF, I'm disappointed.
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No. It should convince you that you are too dumb to understand the basics of mechanics.
In rapid succession, columns have buckled and lateral bracings broken. What would suspend the building now?
If you believe broken columns and missing bracings would slow a fall, how can you believe they would not if the breaking were effected with ... explosives, thermite, whatever (what IS your goddamned theory, anyway? Explosives? How large would the charges have to be? Thermite? How many tons would you need? You have a problem with 4000 tons of structural steel being in the way of collapse? How do you propose to remove 4000 tons of steel in one instant then? How much energy would you need? Hey, YOU are the engineer! Sit down, do the math!)
 
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Derek Johnson said:
Ya think?
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Yo.

Do you think there has ever been a model in the whole history of science that even claimed to represent reality 100%?

Then you better go back to high school and start your science education from scratch.
 
Credit where it's due: I liked how that poster was put together....
 
Derek Johnson said:
I have the MERM yes, but I missed the October exam registration, it will be this coming spring. National Enrichment (NM) brought me back earlier this year and I missed the summer registration deadline. The demands of that job leave little room for anything else, but the experience from that project is plenty for my SER.
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Are you working on the startup? That would be fascinating. I've worked on some big plants but nothing nuclear.

Good luck making time for the P.E. exam.

"SER"?
 
Derek Johnson said:
I have the MERM yes, but I missed the October exam registration, it will be this coming spring. National Enrichment (NM) brought me back earlier this year and I missed the summer registration deadline. The demands of that job leave little room for anything else, but the experience from that project is plenty for my SER.

Oystein, beachnut:

The questions please (905, 909, 915) and reminded again in (917, 920, 922 and 931). I'm not interesting in your ramblings; I only want your answers to my questions. Please dedicate further posts to them only. Thank you.

Btw Oystein, your reply on 927 convinces me that you are not able to handle this subject...with anyone. I thought there was a higher caliber (that was TFK's claim anyway) at JREF, I'm disappointed.
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Mr. Johnson.
I asked you (a while back) reapeatedly... can you identify molten metal by sight alone?

yes or no?
 
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