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Please help me with Barry Jennings

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All the videos I could find on here so far in the site search have been dmca flagged.

Did the guy have a deathbad recantation as many have said? Is he dead? What happened to him?

What evidence is there that he disavowed his agreeing with the LC guys? Where can i learn more?

Google brings up alexjones, infowars and other equally dubious sources
 
All the videos I could find on here so far in the site search have been dmca flagged.

Did the guy have a deathbad recantation as many have said? Is he dead? What happened to him?

What evidence is there that he disavowed his agreeing with the LC guys? Where can i learn more?

Google brings up alexjones, infowars and other equally dubious sources

There was no deathbed recantation and this is first I'm hearing of that rumor. Mr. Jennings was hospitalized for undisclosed causes and died shortly after. The Jennings Family did not release any details, giving birth to the murder conspiracy theory. Fact of the matter is the Jennings Family is under no obligation to disclose any information.

On the BBC show Conspiracy Files: 9/11 - The Third Tower, Mr. Jennings throws the Loose Change idiots under the bus.

Clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsOKkDwyfjg

Full show:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9072062020229593250#

A new video just came out that contradicts Mr. Jennings claim that the towers were still standing when he became trapped in WTC 7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZduP7HTM3cg

Discussed briefly here, until truthers derailed it.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146032&page=2
 
There was no deathbed recantation and this is first I'm hearing of that rumor. Mr. Jennings was hospitalized for undisclosed causes and died shortly after. The Jennings Family did not release any details, giving birth to the murder conspiracy theory. Fact of the matter is the Jennings Family is under no obligation to disclose any information.

On the BBC show Conspiracy Files: 9/11 - The Third Tower, Mr. Jennings throws the Loose Change idiots under the bus.

Clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsOKkDwyfjg

Full show:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9072062020229593250#

A new video just came out that contradicts Mr. Jennings claim that the towers were still standing when he became trapped in WTC 7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZduP7HTM3cg

Discussed briefly here, until truthers derailed it.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146032&page=2

Misrepresentation is not proof.

The BBC did a hit piece and interpreted Barry Jennings testimony in a way that suited the pro British-U.S. message they wished to deliver.

Barry did not recant and the BBC lied.

Visit the Loose Change Forums if you want to get a more balanced perspective. You will not find much balance here in the pro Official Conspiracy Theory snake pit.

MM
 
Visit the Loose Change Forums if you want to get a more balanced perspective. You will not find much balance here in the pro Official Conspiracy Theory snake pit.

MM

Snicker. Hey MM, I went over there a couple of days ago.

They are up to five posts a day! Good for you.
 
Misrepresentation is not proof.

The BBC did a hit piece and interpreted Barry Jennings testimony in a way that suited the pro British-U.S. message they wished to deliver.

Barry did not recant and the BBC lied.

Visit the Loose Change Forums if you want to get a more balanced perspective. You will not find much balance here in the pro Official Conspiracy Theory snake pit.

MM
Did I miss the post where you justified Mr Jennings with his partner Mr Hess. You might want to include video and firefighter testimony in that time-line also.


:rolleyes:
 
You see the mess truthers make of the testimony of people they focus on?
They project their agenda onto the testimony - so when Jennings says he was told not to look down, that implies he didn't look down.
Of course Dylan Avery isn't going to ask him directly - 'did you see dead bodies?' No, that would be far too clear.
Instead when Jennings himself states emphatically that he saw no dead bodies, the truthers now have to furiously spin his words to make it appear that he's been 'coerced' to change his story.

but he never actually saw dead bodies, as his original interview proves.

There's other things that he never saw, such as the towers collapsing. We know this because neither Jennings nor Hess could have seen the towers from the window that was broken out on Barclay st. (north side).

Jennings himself admits that he 'had no way of knowing' that the towers had fallen, yet contradicts himself again when he claims he saw them come down.

It's not really a big deal - he and Hess were dazed and confused, neither of them understood what was going on until later.

But truthers parse every statement to fit their controlled demolition fantasy, and even excuse the mis-statements of their star witnesses if they are inconvenient to the fantasy.

Incompetent analysis and revisionism don't get much worse than the hack-job that truthers are doing to the truth. Their movement is a complete failure in terms of getting the facts and physics correct..... this is not news, of course.

ETA a quick check revealed that truthers have amplified the errors, and speculation now morphs into new truther 'facts'
'When they made it to the lobby, Mr. Jennings found it destroyed and littered
with dead bodies
.'

'Jennings was fearful he would loose his job, and possibly his pension, if he didn't retract his story. He asked Dylan Avery to exclude the interview of him recounting his story from Avery's then forthcoming documentary, Loose Change Final Cut. 2'
 
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ETA a quick check revealed that truthers have amplified the errors, and speculation now morphs into new truther 'facts'
'When they made it to the lobby, Mr. Jennings found it destroyed and littered
with dead bodies
.'

'Jennings was fearful he would loose his job, and possibly his pension, if he didn't retract his story. He asked Dylan Avery to exclude the interview of him recounting his story from Avery's then forthcoming documentary, Loose Change Final Cut. 2'

Which is to say that the LC punks think that all those fire fighters and cops are such cowards that they would shut up about the murder of hundreds of their brothers for fear of losing a pension, even if they thought they were dying because of what some criminal did to them. Does a dying man, or an angry man who just missed being murdered, and who has no family to worry about clam up under intimidation?

Twoofers are sociopaths and expect us to believe that all of humanity thinks the way they do.
 
OMG, I just came across this video of Alex Jones cranking up the rumor and spin machine (to excellent ratings and revenues, no doubt ;))

The cognitive dissonance of this man should make his head spin faster than a Linda Blair exorcism video, but he barks it out with little apparent effort:

Get this, he's '95%' sure that Jennings was murdered for telling his story, yet he attacks both Jennings and the BBC 'hit piece' for denying the 'dead bodies' canard?!?!
Let's get this straight - someone murdered Jennings at a point when he was categorically denying what 9/11 Truthers claim? that his words were being distorted?

If Alex Jones is correct, then it would actually be the 9/11 TRuth movement, and the LC movies that caused Jennings to be killed. After all, who else is pushing the conspiracy theories and pinning them on victims like Jennings?

It's all a load of malarky anyway, but what's new with 9/11 'Truth'? Spin, prevaricate, insinuate and hope nobody does any real fact-checking.....the truth doesn't stand a chance with these buffoons.
 
Which is to say that the LC punks think that all those fire fighters and cops are such cowards that they would shut up about the murder of hundreds of their brothers for fear of losing a pension, even if they thought they were dying because of what some criminal did to them. Does a dying man, or an angry man who just missed being murdered, and who has no family to worry about clam up under intimidation?

Twoofers are sociopaths and expect us to believe that all of humanity thinks the way they do.
Oh God, not that old and lame, truthers attack the firefighters argument.

Sick and pathetic.

You are just perpetuating lies.

MM
 
Twoofers are sociopaths and expect us to believe that all of humanity thinks the way they do.

I don't disagree. There are some profoundly dishonest people helming the truth movement, and their followers lay down the lies pretty thickly as well.

btw, what is it with truthers spelling the word 'lose' as 'loose'?
 
Also Lefty, I called a few truthers on the 'FDNY lies' canard on youtube recently. At least two truthers openly declared that FDNY were lying about WTC 7.

I then experienced a jaw-drop when a new truther piped in with 'you debunkers are the ones calling FDNY liars!'.........what a horrible combination of arrogance and stupidity - they're brothers-in-arms with the Obama Birthers and other fact deniers.
 
Oh God, not that old and lame, truthers attack the firefighters argument.

Sick and pathetic.

You are just perpetuating lies.

Alledging that first responders are not coming forward because of intimidation is a slander againt better men and women than the whole troofer movement could muster if they paid a $10K enlistment bonus.
 
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Visit the Loose Change Forums if you want to get a more balanced perspective.

MM

Right...

"We don’t ever come out and say that everything we say is 100 per cent. We know there are errors in the documentary, and we’ve actually left them in there so that people discredit us..." Korey Rowe
 
In order for Barry Jennings time line to be correct and for it to sync up with the truthers claims he had to arrive at the already evacuated OEM well before 8:00 am.

Think about that. If you don't believe me just take his word for word account and run it backwards starting at 9:55ish or so (His claim that he saw the first tower fall about five minutes after he got out makes this a good point to start from). His claim of spending an hour and a half in the stairwell (not counting the time spent waiting for an elevator, going down 15 lights of stairs in the dark or making a few phone calls prior to that) kills his time line dead in its tracks.

The poor guy was obviously traumatized by the mornings events and that calls into question any other aspect of his account.
 

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