Lambda-CDM theory - Woo or not?

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Michael actually thinks he knows. But some people are literally just too stupid to do the research and write the papers necessary to convince even one real scientist of their harebrained notions.

http://cosmologystatement.org/

This topic has nothing to do with me. "Lack of belief" in your invisible sky buddies is not limited to me, nor am I the world's only Lambda-CDM critic.
 
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I don't know if it happens, but if it does, it's the result of current in the aurora creating a magnetic field. Cool, but also irrelevant to cosmology.

How can you know that current flows in space are irrelevant to cosmology?

Indeed: this model is completely inconsistent with general relativity.

How?

Furthermore, unless you're at the center of that sphere (quite the coincidence, that), then the universe shouldn't look at all isotropic.

Since we can only see a tiny little sliver of the physical universe, I have no idea why you think that.
 
http://cosmologystatement.org/

This topic has nothing to do with me. "Lack of belief" in your invisible sky buddies is not limited to me, nor am I the world's only Lambda-CDM critic.


Your criticism is unsupported since your qualifications to understand physics at the necessary level have been challenged, and you have been wholly unable to demonstrate that you have any qualifications to actually understand physics at any level whatsoever. Your arguments have been based entirely on your willful ignorance, your incredulity, and your lies.

And is there some particular reason you can't answer this: Were your heroes Bruce, Birkelenad, and Alfvén liars, too?
 
http://cosmologystatement.org/

This topic has nothing to do with me. "Lack of belief" in your invisible sky buddies is not limited to me, nor am I the world's only Lambda-CDM critic.

Just its most clueless. But even your link is ridiculously ignorant. Take this whopper:
"What is more, the big bang theory can boast of no quantitative predictions that have subsequently been validated by observation."
Untrue. The perfect blackbody lineshape of the CMB was a quantitative prediction that has been validated with amazing precision. In fact, a lineshape measurement is really hundreds of measurements, ALL of which need to fit together. And they do. Not only is the Big Bang the only model that predicted this before observational validation, it's still the only model that can explain it even after the fact.

"Yet the big bang is not the only framework available for understanding the history of the universe. Plasma cosmology and the steady-state model both hypothesize an evolving universe without beginning or end. "

And they are inconsistent with general relativity, cannot explain the CMB, and most damningly, require violations of the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Which is why serious physicists have long recognized their uselessness.

"Supporters of the big bang theory may retort that these theories do not explain every cosmological observation."

That's an understatement.

"But that is scarcely surprising, as their development has been severely hampered by a complete lack of funding."

No amount of funding will rescue them from violating the 2nd law of thermodynamics. That's like claiming perpetual motion hasn't been achieved yet because people aren't spending enough money on it.
 
Your criticism is unsupported since your qualifications to understand physics at the necessary level have been challenged,

The only physics one needs to understand is the physical difference between a real force of nature that shows up in a lab experiment and a mythical impotent sky entity that has no effect at all on Earth.
 
Kristian Birkeland first measured this effect about 100 years ago. It's due to the current flow changes in the upper atmosphere and a compass on the ground is sensitive to such changes high above. If you're a great distance from the aurora however, you won't really notice much. :)
If the Aurora was throwing off that kind of voltage, why aren't people harnessing it? Granted, it moves, but an auroral antenna might be a nice investment if it is possible.

Well, historically speaking the debate was between a static or moving (expanding or contracting) universe. According to tenets of GR, a universe dominated by gravity would either tend to expand or contract. The curvature of spacetime does not easily lend itself to a "static" or "stable' universe. Einstein briefly toyed with the idea of adding a non-zero constant into GR to (attempt) to produce a static or stable universe. Once he got wind of Hubble's findings that implied an expanding universe, he set the constant back to zero and left it that way until his death. It's only now that "dark energy" is being stuffed into that same constant of GR in order to achieve an "acceleration".
I think you have it backwards, here. My impression is that we're seeing the expansion of the universe accelerating, and the placeholder term "Dark energy" is being used to explain it. The next step is to make guesses as to what that is, then make predictions with those guesses, and see if they pan out. That's how you'd work out what the heck it is and what it means to us. As far as Einstein goes, he had a religious view towards the universe. He had personal belief conflicts with anything less than an eternal universe. Even the greatest minds have their own irrational moments.

For a long time after BB become popular, it was still unclear whether the momentum of mass would cause the universe to expand forever, or whether or it would "slow down" enough over time to result in a "big crunch" at some point in the distant future. Only recently (last 20 years or so) has there been any evidence suggesting it is likely to continue to expand.
They've already confirmed that. Additionally, they saw that not only is the universe expanding, the expansion itself is accelerating.

I'm not sure where you get that idea exactly, but it need not work out that way. A lot would depend on the circumstances of the "bang' and how things 'spread apart" and in what quantities. The matter/antimatter distribution would not necessarily need to be homogeneously distributed.
Yep. The reading materiel I'd read on it stated that there was only an miniscule difference between the amounts of matter and antimatter, and that tiny fraction is what comprises our current amounts of matter.

Nothing causes "space" to expand in the lab either. Your right of course, but then that leads us back to the difference between "faith' and "empirical physics" I might have "faith" that 'space" (physically undefined I might add) somehow expands "somewhere out there", but I could never hope to empirically demonstrate that concept here on Earth.
It's a difference of scale. Let's say I have a string thirteen billion lightyears long. It's got a bit of a flex to it. Let's say for every inch of that string, it's stretching exactly one planck length. That's pretty much unmeasurable at our level. The ends of the string, however, would be moving away from each other at superluminal speeds.

You are absolutely correct about one key issue here. There is a difference between generic "expansion" (where objects in motion stay in motion) and Lambda-CDM theory. "Spacetime" can expand as the objects in motion spread out and move further apart. "Space" however is physically undefined (in GR) and is physically incapable of "expanding".
If spacetime can't stretch, then it couldn't bend either, right? Wouldn't that make black holes impossible? The event horizon is the point where space is flowing into the singularity at lightspeed. If space can't stretch or flow or bend, black holes wouldn't be possible.

Now you could add an attractive element (gravity or charge) to the *OUTSIDE* of some body of material and create an "acceleration" that "looks like" an expansion of space, but is in fact an expansion of spacetime due to gravitational or charge attraction to an external body of matter.
Wouldn't that make galaxies incapable of coalescing? I'd think planetary and solary bodies would diffuse throughout the universe, and there'd be no clumping.

But as Alfven's paper demonstrates, just by changing a few key assumptions, running time backwards produces different results. How then can we be sure which conditions actually played themselves out?
I can think of one way off the top of my head: The scientific method. Observe. Make a hypothesis explaining what caused what you just saw. Make a prediction with that hypothesis. Check to see if it's right or wrong. Rinse and repeat, ad nauseum.

Well, you and I really took very different views of that paper. I was intrigued by it, not necessarily sold on it. What I liked about was the fact you could do away with the need for something like inflation to get things started. You could do away with a concept of a "singularity" where stuff get's ugly, and we could do away with the need to resort to "dark sky gods" to explain events in space. IMO that is a step in right empirical direction.
I'm not so sure. I had thought that the acceleration in cosmic expansion had already been directly observed. If that's the case, that already throws Alrin's paper in the circular file. While his idea of the origin of things is interesting, it doesn't explain cosmic expansion. Matter flying away from each other? Sure. The acceleration as they fly apart? No.
 
How can you know that current flows in space are irrelevant to cosmology?

I know the solar wind is irrelevant to cosmology for the same reason I know it's irrelevant to the earth's orbit. See if you can figure out why.


Because you can't make a space-time metric which describes such a model that's a valid solution to the GR field equations. Oh, but that's math, and you don't believe in math. Or know how to do it. Or understand it when it's done for you.

Since we can only see a tiny little sliver of the physical universe, I have no idea why you think that.

Of course you don't. Again, your ignorance, not my problem.
 
I know the solar wind is irrelevant to cosmology for the same reason I know it's irrelevant to the earth's orbit. See if you can figure out why.

I can see one reason there why you're slightly wrong. :D

The solar wind exerts a minute pressure on the sun-facing side of the planet, which may make a minor difference in the Earth's orbit over a few billion years. :)
 
The only physics one needs to understand is the physical difference between a real force of nature that shows up in a lab experiment and a mythical impotent sky entity that has no effect at all on Earth.


Your qualifications to communicate in a sane or intelligent manner on the subject of physics has been challenged, and you have been unable to show that you possess any such qualifications. Given your apparent lack of qualifications to communicate sanely, intelligently, or with a level of understanding above that of a seven year old child on these issues, it's reasonable to accept that you don't understand the normal usage of the terms "physical", "physics", "understand", "difference", "force", "lab", "experiment", "mythical", "entity", "effect", or "Earth".

And why the abject ignorance of this simple question: Were your heroes Bruce, Birkelenad, and Alfvén liars, too? Could it embarrass you to acknowledge that they took an entirely different approach to science than you? Do you believe that lying is an effective way to try to support your inane conjectures? Has your lying ever swayed anyone to accept your crackpot notions? It is a most curious method of argument, indeed. If we could understand why you rely so heavily on it, we might be able to better understand the arguments you are trying to pose by lying.
 
I can see one reason there why you're slightly wrong. :D

The solar wind exerts a minute pressure on the sun-facing side of the planet, which may make a minor difference in the Earth's orbit over a few billion years. :)

The interesting thing is that when you pin them down on the effect of DE on Earth's orbit it's even *MORE* irrelevant than solar wind. :)
 
The interesting thing is that when you pin them down on the effect of DE on Earth's orbit it's even *MORE* irrelevant than solar wind. :)

Dark Energy only makes a difference at pan-galactic scales. Recall my 13-billion-lightyear long string example.
 
If the Aurora was throwing off that kind of voltage, why aren't people harnessing it? Granted, it moves, but an auroral antenna might be a nice investment if it is possible.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/themis/auroras/northern_lights.html


Angelopoulos was quite impressed with the substorm's power and he estimated the total energy of the two-hour event at five hundred thousand billion Joules. That's equivalent to the energy of one magnitude 5.5 earthquake . Where does all that energy come from? THEMIS may have found the answer.

Yep. that's a lot of power. :)

I think you have it backwards, here. My impression is that we're seeing the expansion of the universe accelerating, and the placeholder term "Dark energy" is being used to explain it.

But that doesn't actually "explain" anything does it? I mean just because we agree we can call it "dark voodoo energy' doesn't mean we've actually "explained" anything does it?

The next step is to make guesses as to what that is, then make predictions with those guesses, and see if they pan out. That's how you'd work out what the heck it is and what it means to us.

I guess I start to balk when they rule out an EM field because it presumably cannot create negative pressure, and then they point as the Casimir effect and claim that it's doing exactly what they claimed the EM field could not do. They aren't even consistent in their arguments as far as I can tell.

If we are going to "guess" as the real "cause", shouldn't we limit ourselves to *KNOWN* forces of nature? If not, how can we differentiate this idea from a "religion" (God did it and here's the math to prove it)?

As far as Einstein goes, he had a religious view towards the universe. He had personal belief conflicts with anything less than an eternal universe. Even the greatest minds have their own irrational moments.

I have no judgments about it (other than it didn't actually work), I was simply filling in some of the historical details. :)

They've already confirmed that. Additionally, they saw that not only is the universe expanding, the expansion itself is accelerating.

Ok. We can likewise observe a two cars expanding and accelerating away from each other too. Where's the empirical connection between these observations and "dark energy"?

It's a difference of scale. Let's say I have a string thirteen billion lightyears long. It's got a bit of a flex to it. Let's say for every inch of that string, it's stretching exactly one planck length. That's pretty much unmeasurable at our level. The ends of the string, however, would be moving away from each other at superluminal speeds.

That doesn't really explain what "space" is physically, or how it stretches, or what makes it stretch. We might "stretch' the fabric of small piece of spacetime by accelerating it with an (external) EM field. That wouldn't necessarily lead to superliminal expansion however, but it might lead to time dilation features that *look like* superluminal expansion.


I can think of one way off the top of my head: The scientific method. Observe. Make a hypothesis explaining what caused what you just saw. Make a prediction with that hypothesis. Check to see if it's right or wrong. Rinse and repeat, ad nauseum.

I don't really have a problem with that concept as long as you aren't trying to stuff magic energy into a GR formula. :) I'll bet we would agree on most aspects of "science". It's only this "point at the invisible sky entity' stuff I balk at. :)

I'm not so sure. I had thought that the acceleration in cosmic expansion had already been directly observed. If that's the case, that already throws Alrin's paper in the circular file. While his idea of the origin of things is interesting, it doesn't explain cosmic expansion. Matter flying away from each other? Sure. The acceleration as they fly apart? No.

You're right. You might get expansion, but you'll need something external to that mass body to achieve acceleration, either another body of mass, or something with a different charge, or both.
 
Michael Mozina's ignorance of negative pressure persists

If you've been following this conversation (it's actually taken place in a lot of different threads now), they've been trying to suggest that the EM field *CANNOT* cause 'negative pressure" and it is therefore ruled out as 'dark energy'.
That is a correct. EM fields on cosmological scales *CANNOT* cause negative pressure.

They however turn right around and cite the Casimir effect as an example of 'negative pressure in a vacuum". The Casimir effect however is directly related to the EM field since plastics don't attract or repulse like metals.

Now Mister Earl, they can claim EM fields *CAN* cause "negative pressure", or they can claim they don't, but they can't have it both ways. Which is it?
To this Michael Mozina's ignorance of the empirical link between acceleration and dark energy we can add this bit of ignorance.

No one has claimed that EM fields exert negative pressure on cosmological scales. It is the opposite. EM fields always exert positive pressure on cosmological scales. That is why they are ruled out as the cause of the acceleration.

The Casimir effect is an example of negative pressure. There is no classical EM field.
The typical example is of two uncharged metallic plates in a vacuum, placed a few micrometers apart, without any external electromagnetic field. In a classical description, the lack of an external field also means that there is no field between the plates, and no force would be measured between them.

The universe is not sandwiched between two uncharged metallic plates :eye-poppi!

Try to learn the difference between a couple of plates and the universe, MM (though given your demonstrated inability to learn that will be a problem for you)
 
Did you physically determine that somehow or did you simply "assume" it only makes a difference somewhere out there that we can never reach?

I'm trying to dig up more detailed info now. What I'm specifically looking for is a quantification of the acceleration rate of cosmic expansion. I think that has been determined, but I could be wrong.

#EDIT: Yeah, I'm not finding documentation pertaining to it. I probably remembered wrong. I'll look some more when I get home from work, just to be thorough.
 
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The interesting thing is that when you pin them down on the effect of DE on Earth's orbit it's even *MORE* irrelevant than solar wind. :)

Indeed it is. What you haven't figured out is scaling: dark energy becomes MORE important at larger scales, while solar wind becomes LESS important. The consequences of such scaling in relation to cosmology should be obvious. But then, you should be able to define pressure too...
 
I'm trying to dig up more detailed info now. What I'm specifically looking for is a quantification of the acceleration rate of cosmic expansion. I think that has been determined, but I could be wrong.

#EDIT: Yeah, I'm not finding documentation pertaining to it. I probably remembered wrong. I'll look some more when I get home from work, just to be thorough.

LINK and LINK
 
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What is "Empirical" Science? X

There's really no denying the empirical difference between an EM field and your mythical negative pressure mythos. One shows up in the lab, while the other is as impotent on Earth as any pantheon god.
Yes there is, I deny that there is any empirical difference between electromagnetic fields and cosmological negative pressure. There, see, there is denying after all. But does this mean I am in "denial"? No, actually, it means that you, Michael Mozina, are in denial. Lest we forget ...
Question 2
The standard definition of the word "empirical" does not require a controlled experiment, or for that matter, any kind of experiment at all. Why do you feel justified in changing the definition of a word (any word, but in particular this one), and then complaining when the rest of the world does not use it your way?
For standard usage of the word "empirical", see for instance the definition from the online Merriam-Webster dictionary.

Case in point
I quote from the book An Introduction to Scientific Research by E. Bright Wilson, Jr.; McGraw-Hill, 1952 (Dover reprint, 1990); page 27-28, section 3.7 "The Testing of Hypotheses"; emphasis from the original.

"In many cases hypotheses are so simple and their consequences so obvious that it becomes possible to test them directly. New observations on selected aspects of nature may be made, or more often an experiment can be performed for the test. [size=+1]There is no clear cut distinction between an experiment and a simple observation[/size], but ordinarily in an experiment the observer interferes to some extent with nature and creates conditions or events favorable to his purpose."
Wilson says "There is no clear cut distinction between an experiment and a simple observation," and that is the way the entire scientific community currently operates. Are you now telling us that the entire scientific community is using a flawed concept of empiricism?
Yes indeedy-do, you Michael Mozina are in pure & unfettered denial of the very definition of the concept behind the word "empirical". Live with it dude, it's all you, all the time, all denial and nothing but.

Rather than just "fess up" and admit your whole "religion" is based on "faith in the unseen" (in the lab), ...
I have nothing to "fess up" to that I have not already "fessed up" to. Of course cosmological expansion does not show up in terrestrial laboratories, not that it matters a whit in any case, but it has long since been "fessed up" to. On the other hand, you might try the "fess up" game yourself. As I recall, I accused you of being dishonest, because you would not "fess up" to the fact that you have chosen to re-define the concept of "empirical" to suit your own religious prejudice. Ready to "fess up" yet and lose thereby the "dishonest" flag? Hmmmm? You know what they say, "fession" is good for the soul.

Tim, your whole game seems to be "destroy the messenger" ... you're going to spend all your time and efforts bashing the messenger.
Well, there you have it, folks. The sinner stands naked and exposed, so to speak. That's me. Nothing to offer except non-stop, no-content, pure Mozina-bashing because I am in denial (I've never been anywhere near the Nile you know, but that's another story ...) and have no choice but to attack the messenger, since I have nothing useful to say about the message. Let us harken back to the good old days with a fine example of me spending all my time and effort "destroying the messenger" ...
Representative comments; clearly Mr. Mozina, and others no doubt, reject the concept of "magnetic reconnection" altogether. This is an uncomfortable position to take, since "magnetic reconnection" is directly observed in controlled laboratory plasma physics experiments (i.e., Lawrence & Gekelman, 2008; Cheng, et al., 2008; Yamada, et al., 2007; Yamada, Ren & Ji, 2007; Yamada, et al., 2006; Sarff, et al., 2005 & etc.; Yamada, 1999 reviews the previous 20 years of laboratory plasma studies of magnetic reconnection).

The argument that magnetic field lines are without physical substance, and therefore cannot reconnect, is purely a semantic argument with no basis in physics. The lines represent the topology of the magnetic field, and the change in the topology of the magnetic field is the physical manifestation of magnetic reconnection. The phenomenological consequence is a transfer of energy from the magnetic field (which loses internal energy) to the plasma (which gains kinetic energy). As noted in the papers cited above, the observations of laboratory plasma are consistent with the predictions based on magnetic reconnection theory. Furthermore, we know that double layers are not involved, because the topology of the field is observable before, during and after reconnection, so double layers would be obviously visible. Furthermore, the result of a collapsing double layer is observationally distinguishable from that of reconnection. The observations in fact are consistent with the latter, and inconsistent with the former.

Magnetic reconnection is a phenomenon verified by controlled laboratory plasma physics experiments. See, for instance, the Magnetic Reconnection Experiment (MRX) at the Princeton University Plasma Physics Laboratory. MRX has been measuring magnetic reconnection in laboratory plasma since 1995, but there are experimental observations of reconnection that predate that.

One must also observe that the theory of magnetic reconnection is well developed, and is commonly described in plasma physics text books (i.e., Magnetic Reconnection: MHD Theory and Applications, Priest & Forbes, Cambridge University Press, 2000, concentrates in detail on magnetic reconnection; other books typically include chapters on magnetic reconnection, i.e., Fundamentals of Plasma Physics, Paul M. Bellan, Cambridge University Press, 2006 (Bellan heads the Bellan Plasma Group at Caltech, which does an outstanding job of simulating solar prominences in in the laboratory); Plasma Physics for Astrophysics, Russell M. Kulsrud, Princeton University Press, 2005; The Physics of Plasmas, Boyd & Sanderson, Cambridge University Press, 2003; Nonlinear Magnetohydrodynamics, Dieter Biskamp, Cambridge Monographs on Plasma Physics, 1993).

Magnetic reconnection, as a physical phenomenon, regardless of the argument over words, is an integral & fundamental aspect of plasma physics. Denying the validity of magnetic reconnection is quite the same as simply denying the validity of laboratory plasma physics altogether.

What a horrible example of pointless messenger bashing! I should be ashamed of myself for saying such things about poor, downtrodden Michael Mozina. I guess that's why Mozina held back is hot temper and gave us only this response ...
The term "magnetic reconnection" is not simply an argument about semantics Tim, and no one has done what Birkeland had done with "electricity" in a lab, namely use "magnetic reconnection" to generate whole sphere discharges and coronal loops, jets, etc. I'll start off tomorrow "debunking" the PPPL paper for you since I've already been through that paper at space.com. We'll go though them one by one if you like, but each and every one of the most likely used "current flow" to get their party started, and to generate these events in plasma.

The magnetic lines lack physical substance, and they are physically incapable of "disconnecting" or "reconnecting" to any other magnetic field line. These are simply "particle/circuit reconnection" events, not "magnetic reconnection" events. It simply "current sheet acceleration", nothing more. It's late tonight, and all start on your papers tomorrow, but I did upload a PDF of Birkeland's work to my website so you have at least two download locations:

http://www.thesurfaceofthesun.com/birkeland.pdf
Finally, being in Socratic mood, I will leave it as an exercise for the student to judge the level of "responsiveness" in Mozina's response, compared to my original comments. And in light of that exercise, the student may wish to ponder who it is that suffers from the more significant denial syndrome.
 

Thank you :D From the article:
We find that the lensing signal scales with redshift as expected from General Relativity for a concordance LCDM cosmology, including the full cross-correlations between different redshift bins.
Not sure what bins they are referencing here. I'm assuming "redshift bins" are like different distance sets?
For a flat LCDM cosmology, we measure sigma_8(Omega_m/0.3)^0.51=0.75+-0.08 from lensing, in perfect agreement with WMAP-5, yielding joint constraints Omega_m=0.266+0.025-0.023, sigma_8=0.802+0.028-0.029 (all 68% conf.).
The measurements and results, which don't mean much to me.
Dropping the assumption of flatness and using HST Key Project and BBN priors only, we find a negative deceleration parameter q_0 at 94.3% conf. from the tomographic lensing analysis, providing independent evidence for the accelerated expansion of the Universe.
This part isn't so bad. Negative deceleration parameter tells me they have a positive acceleration value.
For a flat wCDM cosmology and prior w in [-2,0], we obtain w<-0.41 (90% conf.). Our dark energy constraints are still relatively weak solely due to the limited area of COSMOS. However, they provide an important demonstration for the usefulness of tomographic weak lensing measurements from space.
I think this part means, "It isn't proof, due to a small sample size, but it is corroborating evidence."
 
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