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Family Steering Committee for the 9/11 Commission

This got sent around with a message about the media boycott I posted earlier

In less than ten days, we will begin our television boycott. Still, for maximum effectiveness, our group will need a significant amount of participation. In the coming days, please do all you can to bring in new members and peak interest in our cause.

Nine years is far too long. The criminals of September 11th still remain at large. In ten days, let's get the media's attention and FINALLY make the countless unanswered questions regarding 9/11 public knowledge.
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The 9/11 Commission was established in the teeth of Republican opposition. The families of the victims played a large part in rousing public opinion and shaming the administration into it.

The establishment of the commission was a political compromise because the 9/11 report was due be delivered just before the 2004 presidential election. As a comprimise, the work was split into two phases with the second phase to deal with the administration's decision making and actions leading up to 9/11, and to be delivered well after the election. The second phase almost didn't happen and public outrage was necessary.

I think what you have is part of the campaign to make phase II happen. The date is right.

IMO, awareness of the above has disappeared down the memory hole.

The report was delivered in May 2007. This is probably a good summary of the report.

http://www.dawn.com/2007/05/27/int6.htm
 
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And the documentary "Press for Truth" i've posted above tells their story, which is pretty much interwoven with the story of the 9/11 commission. Seriously Scott, with this thread you got off my "suspected shills" list. ;)
 
Childlike Empress said:
And the documentary "Press for Truth" i've posted above tells their story, which is pretty much interwoven with the story of the 9/11 commission. Seriously Scott, with this thread you got off my "suspected shills" list. ;)
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If the "Truth Movement" stuck with reality instead of basing demands for a new investigation on the existence of man-made demolition, no-planes, space beams, etc, they might have accomplished something good. Instead, to the extent anyone was aware of them, they served to discredit all critics of the administration.
 
There is no "they", see general discussion thread. The real failure lies with the american public to act on reality. And of course, there's always the "South Park" element to muddy the waters.
 
The reality is that there is absolutely not one shred of evidence for, and a mountain of evidence against, such a vast majority of truther claims that the very small percentage of their claims that might have had a point to be made are buried under their own bull manure in a cesspit of their own making. I have no sympathy for them when they start to complain that nobody listens to them while at the same time never listening to people explaining to them, often in in excruciating detail, why they are wrong and where their flawed logic derailed them into the land of woo. You can't help them because they don't want to be helped.

So I point and laugh at them instead. It's much more cathartic than banging my head on my desk...
 
That silly little site is rediculous. I found many errors in their "facts" and use logical fallacies time and time again.
 
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You expect me to write an essay responding to your four words post? Forget it. Face reality or not, i don't care.
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No, I would expect you to be able to express yourself in a reasonable manner to discuss something you find this important. Instead, you link to a site that is full of rhetoric and is rather short on facts.
 
The Facts Speak for Themselves

A truth so nice they told it twice!


The political stuff is just innuendo at that site. On September 9, we (and Russia) already had plans to combat Afghanistan, which was being governed by an evil, woman hating, 11th Century cult who vowed to kill us. This is called good governance, if anything.

Quote mining - Bush says "This is a great opportunity." From a conversation 12 hours after the attacks, and referring to our relations with China and Russia.

Presented without comment:
Jon Gold said:
Fact #40
A document entitled, “Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba” from 1962 proves BEYOND THE SHADOW OF DOUBT that elements within our Government are MORE THAN CAPABLE of devising a “9/11 Type” plan.
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Really, if Jon Gold or anyone would present a hypothesis that better explains events vs. the common narrative, I'd be happy to listen. So far, they seem to want to throw a bunch of "facts" at the wall, and see what sticks. "That's why we need a new investigation" is not an excuse for not presenting an affirmative hypothesis.

ETA - that quote above is unintentionally hilarious, I'll give CE that.
 
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carlitos said:
Really, if Jon Gold or anyone would present a hypothesis that better explains events vs. the common narrative, I'd be happy to listen. So far, they seem to want to throw a bunch of "facts" at the wall, and see what sticks. "That's why we need a new investigation" is not an excuse for not presenting an affirmative hypothesis.
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BS. You are confusing a criminal investigation with a scientific experiment.
 
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