paximperium
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All Communists are dead-beats
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RobRoy
Not A Mormon
Ahem . . . well, then . . . ummm . . . how do you know your, uh, friends are are communists?
Originally, I thought it was this too, but then I decided it was a strawman. It was seemingly unrelated, but offered a counter argument in an attempt to defeat the coming arguments. But now I'm simply not certain what this is called. It's clearly a logical fallacy, I'm just not certain what the exact name for it is.
WildCat
NWO Master Conspirator
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Let's just call it a parkyism.
RobRoy
Not A Mormon
That's fair, and apt.
Although I would like to know if there's an actual term for this. It's like a strawman, but that takes the current argument, changes it so that it's easily defeated and then defeats it. This doesn't look at the argument at all, just offers a new argument suggesting that if you can't defeat it, then anything else you say isn't valid.
one of them is quite well know amoung the leftist community in NY.
quadraginta
Becoming Beth
You've never committed yourself to a definition of what you believe to be communism. This is true, if somewhat cowardly.
You have made some fairly blatant statements demonstrating your evident mis-understanding of communism, beginning with the OP itself. So until you rectify that situation by stating unequivocally what your "understand" actually is we have to work with the evidence we've got.
I shall post my understandings of Communism and Socialism in this thread, at a time and manner of my choosing.
ZirconBlue
Sole Survivor of L-Town
That would have been a better start, yes.
RobRoy
Not A Mormon
So now your sample is reduced to one?
Wouldn't it have been easier to simply say, "My friend Bob, who is also a communist, is such a bum! Anyone else have friends who are bums?"
Kotatsu
Phthirapterist
In the Workers' Paradise of China? I might as well try to find a "core"-Lumbriculid in New Zealand (1)!!
Or even more accurately: "Some deadbeats I know happen to call themselves communists". Or perhaps: "How to display ignorance. Lesson #1: Using terms you are not familiar with".
A better thread for you to start could be: "Could someone please teach me what communism is?"
This carries no weight, as American "leftists" seem to range from mildly liberal conservatives all the way to hardcore Maoists, and still manage to include a fair share of syndicalists, anarchists, communists, socialists, and plain morons. He could be to the right of the conservative party in my country and still be called a "leftist" in the US for all I know.
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(1) Zoologist humour; apart from occasional reports of recent introductions of Lumbriculus variegatus, there are no Lumbriculids on the Southern Hemisphere. Most of the 120+ species are either in Lake Baikal or in the Rocky Mountains. The States of Washington, Oregon and California are, if I recall correctly, home to approximately 40% of the species!
Kotatsu
Phthirapterist
After you've followed my suggestion and gone to the library and/or bookstore?
nope, I'm not gonna look up anything. i will post my understanding of Communism without any further input or research.
Kotatsu
Phthirapterist
That sounds positively exhilarating! When can we expect this to be posted?
Howie Felterbush
Bow Tie Daddy
It's very simple. Communists look like this guy.
I thought everyone knew that.
I thought everyone knew that.
looks more like The Rebbe to me.
Kotatsu
Phthirapterist
Apart from the hat, it looks a bit like me.
KingMerv00
Penultimate Amazing
RobRoy
Not A Mormon
Perhaps we should send Thunder/Parky out first. He seems to have greater skill in identifying communists and/or bums.