Why did they "pull" tower seven?

[sheeplesnshills]

Just as a matter of interest Sabretooth- why couldn't the obviously small initial fires in WTC7 have been put out with hundreds of fire extinguishers requisitioned from nearby skyscrapers ?

Please show us that the fires could have been put out with extinguishers. Please list all assumptions and show working

I take you have never fought a fire either......extinguishers are only useful in the first few minutes, if that of a fire. When the North Tower came down no one gave a Carp about fires in WTC7 for much longer than that!

 

[ElMondoHummus]

Damn I'm good.

Whatever. You predicted water being wet, ya know.

 

[tsig]

Are you sure that yu are not projecting a little there Sheeples ? I mean you are a professional Mechanical Engineer and yet you say that these pictures attached represent a natural fire-driven collapse of a massive steel framed structure. No other steel-framed highrise building in the recorded history of the planet Earth has been brought down by fire. In fact the only way one has been cleanly brought down like in the picture is by explosive controlled demolition.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8607/wtc7controlleddemolitiohq3.jpg WTC7 Before
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/wtc-gallery/wtc-rescuer/wtc7-1.JPG WTC7 seconds later

Got any evidence of any other 110 story buildings being demolished by CD's? If not then we have to say that it is the first time in the history of the world that 110 story buildings have been destroyed by CD's.

 

[Horatius]

Whatever. You predicted water being wet, ya know.

Well, it was, wasn't it?!?!?


Wet blanket!

 

[triforcharity]

Please show us that the fires could have been put out with extinguishers. Please list all assumptions and show working

I take you have never fought a fire either......extinguishers are only useful in the first few minutes, if that of a fire. When the North Tower came down no one gave a Carp about fires in WTC7 for much longer than that!

Nobody gave a fish?

 

[fess]

Originally Posted by bill smith
No, professionals remain professional. Otherwise they are not professionals. Do you umderstand ?

A professionaiol fire commander wil not take his eye off the ball whatever happens. It was a simple matter to save some muti-million dolllar real estate by pulling a few dozen firemen off the pile and to extinguish those small initial fires in WTC7.

Lets see, they have just lost hundreds of their colleagues fighting fires in tall buildings.........and you really expect them to risk dozens more for the sake of the WTC7?????
You really can't be this dumb, or can you?

Actually, it appears that, yes he/she can.

 

[dc1971]

A better way of putting the question might be ' why did they have to pull WTC7 ''

There's always the question of; Why do Truthers insist on taking Larry Silverstein's statement about abandoning rescue operations out of context?? Specifically you Mr. Smith??

 

[dc1971]

Lets see, they have just lost hundreds of their colleagues fighting fires in tall buildings.........and you really expect them to risk dozens more for the sake of the WTC7?????
You really can't be this dumb, or can you?

Well, Bill does come across as being pretty dumb don't you think?

 

[dc1971]

No, professionals remain professional. Otherwise they are not professionals. Do you umderstand ?

A professionaiol fire commander wil not take his eye off the ball whatever happens. It was a simple matter to save some muti-million dolllar real estate by pulling a few dozen firemen off the pile and to extinguish those small initial fires in WTC7.

Small initial fires, eh? Okay! Keep thinking that... meanwhile there are facts to look at once you decide to stop being stupid!

 

[dc1971]

Well, considering much of the remaining (ie: not dead or injured) manpower went into S&R operations immediately after 1 & 2 had collapsed, I can't imagine much thought was put into a building that had since been evacuated. By the time it had gotten attention on anyone's radar, the building was already lost.

If I was scene commander, my focus would have been entirely on the S&R of my brothers. Life comes first, not property.

Interesting how Bill tries to tell a firefighter how to be a firefighter.

 

[The Charnel Expanse]

Maybe it was haunted like the house in Poltergeist

Hell, there's more evidence for the existence of ghosts than there is for WTC7 having been demo'd, right?

 

[beachnut]

No, professionals remain professional. Otherwise they are not professionals. Do you umderstand ?

A professionaiol fire commander wil not take his eye off the ball whatever happens. It was a simple matter to save some muti-million dolllar real estate by pulling a few dozen firemen off the pile and to extinguish those small initial fires in WTC7.

Small fires? You constantly make up idiotic lies, or are you repeating lies for fun?
The firemen worked all day! All night, some for days; you spew lies, the firemen worked and saved lives; you spew lies for 8 years.

Here are your small fires in 7...

Small; go ahead, charge into an empty building with no water and do what? What have you not lied about? Nothing; no lie is too delusional for you to post. Good job apologizing for terrorists and making up lies and insults about those who saved lives

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

The thing with ghosts and other paranormal phenomena is there is often no scientifically useful definition for them. There's no way to test for them.

Not so with the alleged explosive controlled demolition of WTC7. We know exactly what a controlled demolition looks like and we know exactly what to look for. While the tinfoilers bitch and whine incessantly about a handful of superficial similarities, none of the characteristics which are unique to controlled demolitions are observed in the collapse of WTC7.

 

[bill smith]

Small fires? You constantly make up idiotic lies, or are you repeating lies for fun?
The firemen worked all day! All night, some for days; you spew lies, the firemen worked and saved lives; you spew lies for 8 years.
[qimg]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/NYFDWTCfire.jpg[/qimg]



Here are your small fires in 7...
[qimg]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/wtc7fire3.jpg[/qimg]
Small; go ahead, charge into an empty building with no water and do what? What have you not lied about? Nothing; no lie is too delusional for you to post. Good job apologizing for terrorists and making up lies and insults about those who saved lives

You wouldn't try to trick the Readers would you Beachnut ? Are you sure that the top photo is WTC7 at all ?

Beware Readers....they will try any shabby trick now...

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

You wouldn't try to trick the Readers would you Beachnut ? Are you sure that the top photo is WTC7 at all ?

Beware Readers....they will try any shabby trick now...

The only person I see lying here is you Bill (and RedIbis, but that's another thing).

Beachnut didn't say the top photo was of WTC7.

 

[bill smith]

NO. You are DEAD wrong. Period.

Absolutely NO firefighter puts possessions or property before LIFE. EVER.

And, in the case of 9/11, that statement applies ten-fold. Those fire departments had just lost a hundred of their brothers. They would not, and could not, be taken away from saving the survivors.

...and this pile of horse**** you had the nerve to even type:

...shows me you don't know the first thing about firefighting or what it means to the men and women who do it day in and out. LIFE comes first. PERIOD. NO Fire Scene Commander would ever...EVER...choose to put his men in harms way to save ANYTHING that wasn't essential. Especially when there are LIVES to save from the first two buildings.

Yeah...I'd like to see you explain that one to a family that just lost a dad, mom, son, sister..."I'm sorry we couldn't save your dad from being buried under a bunch of bricks, but we saved the heck outta that Beamer across the street!"...

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Edited for civility

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Either you are really that pompous and bold to assume you know anything about firefighters, or you are just pushing me to put you on ignore so you can blather on without having to worry about one less person questioning your retarded opinions.

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Edited for civility

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Any level headed fire commander could immediately see that the chance of suvivors in the WTC collapses was close to nil. Apart from that you don't want all these big firemen walking around on top of the rubble and possibly squashing those potential but highly unlikely survivors.

So the fire commender at tWTC7 should have ordered that those small fires be extinguished by hand using hundreds of fire extinguishers requisitioned from srrounding buildings.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

8,575$ for that?! And it only shreds "up to 16 pages"?! That is ridiculous! If you ask me, the ninJews went with the right decision.

I know this is a very stupid question, but why do they use shredders at a cost of several thousand dollars to get rid of sensitive documents when they can just, you know, burn them?

Are industrial-grade matches several thousand dollars a box, too?

(I have a feeling it's got to do with emissions or something?)

 

[bill smith]

I do not know of any sane person that would describe the collapse of WTC as "highly suspicious" Please explain exactly what it should have looked like and why, list all assumptions and show working.

Just read the posts and keep taking the tablets and you'll be fine...

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Any level headed fire commander could immediately see that the chance of suvivors in the WTC collapses was close to nil. Apart from that you don't want all these big firemen walking around on top of the rubble and possibly squashing those potential but highly unlikely survivors.

So the fire commender at tWTC7 should have ordered that those small fires be extinguished by hand using hundreds of fire extinguishers requisitioned from srrounding buildings.

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[Sam.I.Am]

Man, I do hope that someday our Bill Smith isn't trapped in a collapsed building where the odds of survival were slim and that he ends up with a scene commander that thinks like he does. Because that would really suck to be lying there for a long time, thirsty and in pain thinking that somebody is looking for him and then realizing that nobody is.