Coast to Coast AM Debate, August 21 2010

[TruthersLie]

I belief it refers to something in your mouth.

MM

Reported. Thank you.

So again, have you learned what an architectural footprint is yet? Yes or no?

Can you explain to me how a building collapses into its own footprint and manages to strike 2 adjacent buildings which are 270(ish) degrees apart across two roads?

Were those buildings in the footprint of wtc7? How about those roads? Hmmm?

 

[pgimeno]

You apparently don't see the fact that no deceleration is measurable in the descent of WTC 1 as a problem.

Tony, doesn't your paper assume column-to-column impact after a 3 floor fall? How can you guarantee that the columns don't miss after a 3 floor fall in WTC1? This is a very speculative assumption, not based on any substantial evidence, so your claim that Dave's is a mistake is just a speculation itself.

Just as a reminder, since you seem to have cared in past and forgotten in past, my full name is Pedro Gimeno Fortea, from Valencia, ES, as you can readily check in my profile.

And as a reminder too, will you please direct your association to fix the blatant errors I pointed out? I can tell you some more if you want.

 

[sadhatter]

Ah but see elmondo, if you know the way of the snake oil salesmen, you will understand that to a newvictim, the snake oil is new...so for every naive person Gage and others come across, the free fall and molten steel canards are brand spanking new.

TAM

This actually agrevates me more than the fact that we are essentially fighting a hydra.

I honestly think the next person debating him needs to just go all out and show that he is lying. Don't worry about defending the official story, don't worry about supplying facts to back it up. Because we know that doesn't work.

What we need to do is a three hour debate in which he is simply confronted with every time someone can prove he has been shown that a theory of his is wrong. With the point being that he is simply relying on peoples lack of research skills to even come within spitting distance of seeming like a legitimate scientist.

 

[CurtC]

Audio file available for download

Hey what can you expect for free right?

If someone has a better host location they can either send me the info or put it up themselves.

Dropbox is free, and I've put the big single file in my Dropbox public folder, available for download here:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4115570/C2C.911.08-21-10.all.mp3

It's a 42 MB MP3 file, just a little shy of three hours long.


Hey Dave, I'm the guy who commented on your posting at the Panda's Thumb - I was in the Bighorn Nat'l Forest in Wyoming just two weeks ago and was also impressed with the road signs pointing out the rock layers and their ages. And I was also a long time Science Watch listener. Thanks for your efforts!

 

[JLord]

I finished listening to the debate. I was very happy that Ian Punnett was the moderator. I think he is by far the best host on Coast to Coast and he was a pretty balanced moderator. Of all the hosts I think he is most willing to ask tough questions and insist on actual answers.

 

[gerrycan]

Gage debate anyone?

if u guys want to ask Richard Gage any questions, he will be in our room for a CIVIL q+a session for 2 hours this friday night. link at the ae911 website, paltalk, truth movement chatroom. see ya there eh !

 

[carlitos]

Richard Gage proposes a theory whereby thousands of Americans are "in on" a mass murder. Civility isn't what he deserves.

 

[gerrycan]

thousands? where do you get that from?

 

[carlitos]

thousands of people 'in on it'

• 1,500 people who worked the flight 93 crash scene
• 40,000 people who worked the piles at Ground Zero
• 55 FBI Evidence Response Teams at Fresh Kills in New York
• 7,000+ FBI Agents
• 8,000+ people who worked the scene at the Pentagon

I could give you names and companies too, but there is probably no point.

 

[gerrycan]

come now, when did mr gage ever say that almost 60000 people were involved in a conspiracy? not like you guys to go putting words into peoples mouth. guess you may be upset after the weekends debate, i understand. maybe when you get over it we could have a rational, civil exchange. do you think you may be recovered by friday?

 

[fourtoe]

I belief it refers to something in your mouth.

MM

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come now, when did mr gage ever say that almost 60000 people were involved in a conspiracy? not like you guys to go putting words into peoples mouth. guess you may be upset after the weekends debate, i understand. maybe when you get over it we could have a rational, civil exchange. do you think you may be recovered by friday?

Did you listen to the debate? He first denied that the steel was looked over at Fresh Kills and then he denied that they were looked over for explosives and when he was proven wrong it still wasn't enough! Gage's CT has reached the point to where it now not only includes thousands of ppl, it even includes freaking bomb-sniffing dogs!

 

[fourtoe]

if u guys want to ask Richard Gage any questions, he will be in our room for a CIVIL q+a session for 2 hours this friday night. link at the ae911 website, paltalk, truth movement chatroom. see ya there eh !

This sounds pretty sweet, post some more so you could make a thread about it with more info!

 

[TexasJack]

• 1,500 people who worked the flight 93 crash scene
• 40,000 people who worked the piles at Ground Zero
• 55 FBI Evidence Response Teams at Fresh Kills in New York
• 7,000+ FBI Agents
• 8,000+ people who worked the scene at the Pentagon

I could give you names and companies too, but there is probably no point.

I think it would be unfair to leave out the Ace Elevator employees.

 

[gerrycan]

we have a banner made that takes u straight to our room, its on the ae911 site, i cant seem to post the link directly here though, its free obviously, so feel free to use it.

 

[Disbelief]

come now, when did mr gage ever say that almost 60000 people were involved in a conspiracy? not like you guys to go putting words into peoples mouth. guess you may be upset after the weekends debate, i understand. maybe when you get over it we could have a rational, civil exchange. do you think you may be recovered by friday?

So, besides his lack of physics and structural engineering, he can't even do simple arithmetic? Maybe you can. Take all of the people involved in the investigation and then determine how many would have to know about an issue. This should give you a pretty good idea of how vast the conspiracy would have to be.

 

[gerrycan]

"Did you listen to the debate? He first denied that the steel was looked over at Fresh Kills and then he denied that they were looked over for explosives and when he was proven wrong it still wasn't enough! Gage's CT has reached the point to where it now not only includes thousands of ppl, it even includes freaking bomb-sniffing dogs![/QUOTE]

yes, i did listen to the debate and yeah, i trained my dog to sniff out nano thermitic material when she was only 2, unfortunatley she chased a rusty van loaded with aluminium down the road and i haven't seen her since.

 

[Disbelief]

yes, i did listen to the debate and yeah, i trained my dog to sniff out nano thermitic material when she was only 2, unfortunatley she chased a rusty van loaded with aluminium down the road and i haven't seen her since.

What about the explosives that were used to blow beams hundreds of feet? You do realize your hero discusses explosives and nanothermite.

 

[triforcharity]

Maybe you should have trained that stupid dog a little better eh?

 

[fourtoe]

"Did you listen to the debate? He first denied that the steel was looked over at Fresh Kills and then he denied that they were looked over for explosives and when he was proven wrong it still wasn't enough! Gage's CT has reached the point to where it now not only includes thousands of ppl, it even includes freaking bomb-sniffing dogs!

yes, i did listen to the debate and yeah, i trained my dog to sniff out nano thermitic material when she was only 2, unfortunatley she chased a rusty van loaded with aluminium down the road and i haven't seen her since.[/QUOTE]

They dogs are trained to sniff out incendiaries, which is what thermite is. Have you looked into this claim btw? Is this the first time someone has talked about the investigation at Fresh Kills and the usage of bomb-sniffing dogs?

 

[pgimeno]

yes, i did listen to the debate and yeah, i trained my dog to sniff out nano thermitic material when she was only 2, unfortunatley she chased a rusty van loaded with aluminium down the road and i haven't seen her since.

Please read this before making such bad jokes...

http://ronmossad.blogspot.com/2009/...howComment=1240395840000#c6101665985354960506

Relevant excerpt:

Our main function was US&R, live person, (not cadaver search) but all of our dogs are cross trained in several disciplines, including EDD [Explosive detection] and Incendiary detection.
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