Who started both World Wars?

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JimBenArm said:
1973-1987.
ICC(SS). USS Pollack (SSN-603), USS Guardfish (SSN-612) and decomm crew of the USS George Washington (SSBN-598).

Or, just another officially-sanctioned killer.
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I did 2 1/4 tours in the jungle, then went to Sicily, Puerto Rico, Yokosuka, Long Beach and San Diego. Few ships in there, mostly "shore duty" (like I could see the shore most of the time.)
 
aggle-rithm said:
Ooh, listen to Mr. Big Shot, whose dad actually figured out how to use his weapon! ;)
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My great uncle was on his way to go kill some but he got seasick so they sent him back. Um, yes, he was signed up in the Navy although the province he's from is landlocked.

Someone might have wanted to check that first.
 
stilicho said:
My great uncle was on his way to go kill some but he got seasick so they sent him back. Um, yes, he was signed up in the Navy although the province he's from is landlocked.

Someone might have wanted to check that first.
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The next war around they were a little more careful. My dad was eligible to be re-activated for the Korean war, but they didn't want him because his allergies were so bad.

Or maybe that's just what they told him. Word may have gotten around about the machine gun fiasco...
 
My Grandad was on the Western Front in the First War. Horse Artillery. My Great Uncle was at Jutland. My Uncle artin was in the Med and also in the Battle of the River Plate. My Uncle Harold was in the first wave on D-Day as an RAF FOO.
My dad did 25 years in the RN and left as a Chief Engineering Office (Equiv of a Captain).I did 12 years and left as a Leading Seaman. I served on AS Frigates and Destroyers.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
My Grandad was on the Western Front in the First War. Horse Artillery. My Great Uncle was at Jutland. My Uncle artin was in the Med and also in the Battle of the River Plate. My Uncle Harold was in the first wave on D-Day as an RAF FOO.
My dad did 25 years in the RN and left as a Chief Engineering Office (Equiv of a Captain).I did 12 years and left as a Leading Seaman. I served on AS Frigates and Destroyers.
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Captain_Swoop said:
My Grandad was on the Western Front in the First War. Horse Artillery. My Great Uncle was at Jutland. My Uncle artin was in the Med and also in the Battle of the River Plate. My Uncle Harold was in the first wave on D-Day as an RAF FOO.
My dad did 25 years in the RN and left as a Chief Engineering Office (Equiv of a Captain).I did 12 years and left as a Leading Seaman. I served on AS Frigates and Destroyers.
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My great-grandfather and his brother weren't yet citizens of the US when they volunteered to fight for it in 1917, against the country they had just left. My great-granddad died a few years later from ailments due to exposure to gas. Members of both sides of my family fought during WWII mainly in the Pacific. One became career Navy, serving IIRC on both Enterprises before retiring as Master Chief in the late 70s.
 
It's too bad that I was born 40 years after the fact. Killing nazis would have been great fun.
 
ddt said:
Fail. First we discussed German peace proposals from end September/begin October, so after the conquest of Poland. Then you came with your Irving lie from begin September, so after the invasion. And now you come with a meeting of 27 August, so before the invasion.

Need a hand with those goal posts?
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Not really. You are right that the peace proposals as reported by Dahlerus were indeed dated before the invasion of September 1939. But that does not mean that no similar proposals were made after the end of the Polish campaign. I am aware that in the (Jewish defined) Anglo culture deception is seen as the norm, as something smart, to outwit the opponent. Take for in stance the treason of Versailles, Roosevelt not warning the Poles during the last week of August 1939, Pearl Harbor, 9/11, etc. Germans are different. They are more inclined to stick to their word.

I already mentioned several hints that a peace proposol dated after the war were made by Hitler:

1) Schultze-Rhonhof mentioned it
2) The BBC
3) Uncle Pat himself:

Why did he let the British army go at Dunkirk?
Why did he offer the British peace, twice, after Poland fell, and again after France fell?
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After some searching I found the offer, made during a public address on October 6, 1939, a few weeks after the successful completion of the Polish campaign. It is a long and moderate speech, offering peace with all his neighbours. This is what he had to say about Poland:

What then are the aims of the Reich Government as regards the adjustment of conditions within the territory to the west of the German-Soviet line of demarcation which has been recognized as Germany's sphere of influence?

- First, the creation of a Reich frontier which, as has already been emphasized, shall be in accordance with existing historical, ethnographical and economic conditions.

- Second, the disposition of the entire living space according to the various nationalities; that is to say, the solution of the problems affecting the minorities which concern not only this area but nearly all the States in the Southwest of Europe.

- Third, in this connection: An attempt to reach a solution and settlement of the Jewish problem.

- Fourth, reconstruction of transport facilities and economic life in the interest of all those living in this area.

- Fifth, a guarantee for the security of this entire territory and sixth, formation of a Polish State so constituted and governed as to prevent its becoming once again either a hotbed of anti-German activity or a center of intrigue against Germany and Russia.
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What this comes down to is that Hitler proposes the establishment of a Polish state, based on ethnic majorities. That means a Poland of 19 million ethnic Poles, rather than a state of 30 million, where 11 million non-Poles are surpressed. The Versailles Poland is dead indeed. But there is intention of ethnic cleansing, let alone integrating hostile Poles into a pure German state, what Hitler really wanted. But in contrast to the situation before Versailles, the Poles would now get their ethno-state.

As the BBC article indicated, this peace proposal was turned down by Britain. Britain refused to acknowledge the mistakes it had made in Versailles and chose to commit suicide and pulled Europe with it into the abyss after more than 400 years of planetary domination.

Today, August 2010, in parts of London only 9% of the children born are British. It is a good thing that the Englishman is going to vanish from this earth. They deserve it. If you don't fight for your people and your nation, you deserve to die. Bye bye Britain, rot in hell.

British territory still can be used to give it away for free to the 30 million muslims currently living in Europe, no questions asked to the British population. And remember folks: the key for the future is a Paris-Berlin-Moscow (Kiev) alliance of 750 million people as the successor of the dying West under Anglo leadership.
 
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dtugg said:
It's too bad that I was born 40 years after the fact. Killing nazis would have been great fun.
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One of my profs at Purdue left Nasty Germany in 1937 and went to Palestine with his family. In 1939 he joined the Jewish Brigade of the British Army. He fought in North Africa and Italy until the end of the war. He later taught at Sandhurst, where he was John Keegan's lead professor. One thing he told me that I remember well:

"Killing Nazis was a good idea then. And it's still a good idea."
 
Gawdzilla said:
One of my profs at Purdue left Nasty Germany in 1937 and went to Palestine with his family. In 1939 he joined the Jewish Brigade of the British Army. He fought in North Africa and Italy until the end of the war. He later taught at Sandhurst, where he was John Keegan's lead professor. One thing he told me that I remember well:

"Killing Nazis was a good idea then. And it's still a good idea."
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1. First you are going to do some killing in Iran, that has already has been decided upon by your masters. They think that killing holocaust denying Iranians is a good idea.
2. Next the Chinese are going to dump the dollar, because they will not like it that their premier oil supplier will be bombed to pieces. Collapse of the dollar will result of this.
3. Next foodstamp America will arise and you are going to sink back to 1990 Ukraine levels.
 
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9/11-investigator said:
1. First you are going to do some killing in Iran, that has already has been decided upon by your masters. They think that killing holocaust denying Iranians is a good idea.
2. Next the Chinese are going to dump the dollar, because they will not like it that their premier oil supplier will be bombed to pieces. Collapse of the dollar will result of this.
3. Next foodstamp America will arise and you are going to sink back to 1990 Ukraine levels.
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And your little third world country will still be sucking hind tit.
 
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