Banned Book:The Hoax of the Twentieth Century

[Gawdzilla Sama]

It's the socks. Sorry, that was Budly. But how can you mock these neo-nasties when you have them on ignore?

I never ignore a chance to respond to the neo-Nasties. I do it primarily in like this:

http://www.ibiblio.net/hyperwar/
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/

 

[Oystein]

In the Netherlands, the government pulled the same trick. The popular Dutch translation (in rather archaically Dutch called "Mijn kamp") was translated and published by a publisher that specialized in Nazi stuff. After the war, it came in financial troubles and one of the owners died (of natural causes). When it filed for bankruptcy, the government seized the copyrights. None of the heirs had a shimmer of intention to contest that.
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Oh by the way I just remember: Turkish-German comedian Serdar Somuncu once went on a tour with 1500 gigs, publicly reading excerpts from "Mein Kampf" to a quarter million fans, exposing the silliness and contradictions of nazi world view.

Here is a TV snip of one show in eastern Germany, where neo-nazis storm his stage, but are soon made the the target of well-earned ridicule: Somuncu quotes Hitler to highlight the fail that these dumbasses are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjUEPhv3cWo

Anyway, this just to remind Saggy and others of the fact that you can quote Hitler in Germany and get protected and supported by police doing so.

 

[Oystein]

You've been here since Dec. and you didn't have Saggy on ignore yet?

He's not that active in the 9/11 CTs, where I waste most of my time here

 

[Foolmewunz]

I think I know, now, who "we" is. A flag goes up every time someone like Mondial - a piker in the Denialist circles - gets his foot in his mouth, and they send in the ...... (tempting, ... very tempting.... but there's that MA). So they send in the clones.

Must be some interesting conversations over at Denialist Central.

"Look, M is making a mess of things again. Scrappy, you and Snappy go over and do a Strauss, okay?"
"A Strauss, boss?"
"Yeah, you know... Johann Strauss... like Budly does. Hone in on one tiny little error that you can flog and pretend to prove, and that, in turn, proves the entire holocaust never happened. Do it in 3/4 time and you can waltz for days. By the time they prove you're wrong, we get three new skinhead converts."

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

He's not that active in the 9/11 CTs, where I waste most of my time here

Saggy is part of the Hitler Jugend.

 

[ddt]

Here is a TV snip of one show in eastern Germany, where neo-nazis storm his stage, but are soon made the the target of well-earned ridicule: Somuncu quotes Hitler to highlight the fail that these dumbasses are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjUEPhv3cWo

Priceless, thanks!

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Someone who denies that the Haun's Mill Massacre, the Seige at Far West, the Extermination Order or the murders at Carthage took place is equivalent to a Holocaust denier. In either case, such a person is only exercising his natural right to hold and express a belief, even if that belief goes against popular opinion. In neither case does this make the person in question equivalent to those who actually perpetrated these crimes.

[Possibly something worth reading and replying to, but because of the illegible manner in which it is posted, I'm not going to bother trying.]

Pale green text against a pale grey background is very difficult to read. If you're really interested in participating in a discussion, in posting text that people will read rather than showing off how clever and artistic you think you are, then I would very strongly recommend that you change your settings so that your text is posted in a manner that is actually readable.

 

[TSR]

I don't know a damn thing about it, but I do know, all dancing around the index aside, that you can't buy the book in Germany, say, order it from Amazon, or buy it at the German equivalent of Barnes and Noble.

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And since, by your own admission, you don't know a damn thing about it, how do you "know" it can't be bought?
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[CptColumbo]

He was either lying, or he is a fool. I don't know a damn thing about it, but I do know, all dancing around the index aside, that you can't buy the book in Germany, say, order it from Amazon, or buy it at the German equivalent of Barnes and Noble.

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And since, by your own admission, you don't know a damn thing about it, how do you "know" it can't be bought?
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Nothing comes up for "Arthur Butz" at Amazon.de, except for comments in other people's book entries.

Of course, I only took beginning German a few months ago and could be doing it wrong.

I ain't about to go all the way to Germany to find out if it's in stores, but maybe one of our forumites who lives there could check?

 

[Saggy]

Nothing comes up for "Arthur Butz" at Amazon.de, except for comments in other people's book entries.

Of course, I only took beginning German a few months ago and could be doing it wrong.

I ain't about to go all the way to Germany to find out if it's in stores, but maybe one of our forumites who lives there could check?

You don't need to go to Germany. But you do need to understand the depravity of the Zionist mind as well represented by the posters on the board. Zundel just finished a 5 year jail sentence in Germany for selling a similar book, 'Did Six Million Really Die', in Canada !

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

You don't need to go to Germany. But you do need to understand the depravity of the Zionist mind as well represented by the posters on the board. Zundel just finished a 5 year jail sentence in Germany for selling a similar book, 'Did Six Million Really Die', in Canada !

So lying shouldn't be punished? Oh, wait, that'd give you problems, wouldn't it?

 

[TSR]

Nothing comes up for "Arthur Butz" at Amazon.de, except for comments in other people's book entries.

Of course, I only took beginning German a few months ago and could be doing it wrong.

I ain't about to go all the way to Germany to find out if it's in stores, but maybe one of our forumites who lives there could check?

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You think maybe the lack of popularity might play a part? It has been shown that the National Library stocks two copies, which would have needed to have been bought at tome point.
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[TSR]

Zundel just finished a 5 year jail sentence in Germany for selling a similar book, 'Did Six Million Really Die', in Canada !

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No, he was convicted of 14 counts of inciting racial hatred, for among other things importing Nazi memorabilia into Germany.

Get your lies straight, Saggy -- did you even find those Dachau pics you said you had?
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[TSR]

So lying shouldn't be punished? Oh, wait, that'd give you problems, wouldn't it?

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Actually, Saggy may be confusing Zundel's "False News" convictions back in the Eighties where, after failing twice to convince juries that he actually believed the crap he peddled, he appealed on constitutional grounds and the Canadian Supreme Court found that, indeed, it should not be illegal to lie in Canada
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[Gawdzilla Sama]

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Actually, Saggy may be confusing Zundel's "False News" convictions back in the Eighties where, after failing twice to convince juries that he actually believed the crap he peddled, he appealed on constitutional grounds and the Canadian Supreme Court found that, indeed, it should not be illegal to lie in Canada
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No, he's just lying about the event to make his case seem slightly plausible.

 

[ddt]

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You think maybe the lack of popularity might play a part? It has been shown that the National Library stocks two copies, which would have needed to have been bought at tome point.
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The German National Library stocks a couple of copies of everything that's been published in Germany or in the German language - at least two, one for Frankfurt/Main and one for Leipzig. When you publish a book in Germany, the publisher takes care of that. That doesn't say how much the publisher still has in stock for commercial sale.

 

[Chaos]

Pale green text against a pale grey background is very difficult to read. If you're really interested in participating in a discussion, in posting text that people will read rather than showing off how clever and artistic you think you are, then I would very strongly recommend that you change your settings so that your text is posted in a manner that is actually readable.

What makes you think that one is interested in participating in a discussion?

"Showing off how clever and artistic you think you are" isn´t how I would have put it, though. Closer to "declaring your unassailable moral and intellectual superiority by virtue of quia ego sic dico", I´d say.

However, more or less by pure chance, he actually had a point this time.

 

[TSR]

The German National Library stocks a couple of copies of everything that's been published in Germany or in the German language - at least two, one for Frankfurt/Main and one for Leipzig. When you publish a book in Germany, the publisher takes care of that. That doesn't say how much the publisher still has in stock for commercial sale.

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Nor is the discussion about the publisher's stock.

The OP's claim is that the book is banned.

It is not.

Whether it is available at retail, or how easy it might be to find a copy to purchase are irrelevant.
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[ddt]

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Nor is the discussion about the publisher's stock.

The OP's claim is that the book is banned.

It is not.

Whether it is available at retail, or how easy it might be to find a copy to purchase are irrelevant.
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I agree. But I thought we had concluded it was not banned in Germany, and had moved on. Everybody's seen the evidence, and everybody is convinced of that, except for the OP and his buddy neo-Nasties.

 

[Oystein]

Nothing comes up for "Arthur Butz" at Amazon.de, except for comments in other people's book entries.

Of course, I only took beginning German a few months ago and could be doing it wrong.

I ain't about to go all the way to Germany to find out if it's in stores, but maybe one of our forumites who lives there could check?

It is true alright that you can't buy the book in Germany. As I have already written, it is in fact indexed on the grounds of violating German penal law and must therefore not be published, distributed or made available to youth.

I said all this already.

Saggy called my a liar because I would not admit it. But I have said as much. I was the one providing a link that shows the book must not be sold in Germany, not he! I was the one correcting MortFurd's honest mistake, not he!


However, Saggy made the non-sensical statement that he a) is uninformed but b) knows it can't be bought. While b) happens to be true, it is not something he can know if he is uninformed. That just defies the simplest logic of language. That's what we called him upon for. This forum takes special pride in applying logic, fact, evidence and reason. Saggy is doing none of that, even if he happens to state some fact correctly.