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My HUGE problem with Wikileaks

theprestige said:
Sounds good to me. Why don't you email Assange and let him know that you're qualified to make strategic decisions on behalf of the U.S. and its allies. Better yet, why don't you tell him that you're authorized to make such decisions. I'm sure he'd be very grateful to add such rare and vital competencies to his repertoire.
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Who authorized US death squads in Afghanistan and a drone war in Pakistan?
 
JihadJane said:
Who authorized US death squads in Afghanistan and a drone war in Pakistan?
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Ah, I see you, too understand the pain of having people you didn't choose and don't agree with, unilaterally pursuing policies you disapprove of.

What I find hilarious is that you support Assange not because he's right, but because you agree with him, and then you try to argue his rightness by asserting he's no more wrong than the people you disagree with.

A word to the wise, JJ: claiming moral equivalence will never ever prove moral superiority. You want it so bad; you just can't figure out how to get it.
 
theprestige said:
Ah, I see you, too understand the pain of having people you didn't choose and don't agree with, unilaterally pursuing policies you disapprove of.

What I find hilarious is that you support Assange not because he's right, but because you agree with him, and then you try to argue his rightness by asserting he's no more wrong than the people you disagree with.
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Journalism is political.

A word to the wise, JJ: claiming moral equivalence will never ever prove moral superiority. You want it so bad; you just can't figure out how to get it.
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It's not about me.

The purpose of the leaks is to shine light on what the US has been doing in its "good war".

Who authorized US death squads in Afghanistan and a drone war in Pakistan?
 
JihadJane,

War is never 100% clean, contrary to the BS about Desert Storm.

The Drones are there to take out Taliban leaders. Sometimes they **** up, just like Task force 373. that's war, and you seem to think that danegeld is a better alternative.

I can see Assange urging King Aethelred to pay the vikings gold.
 
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Interesting that all the people making a fuss about the US actions in Afghanistan are silent when the Taliban does something and particularly silent when the US is a target of Terrorism.
 
dudalb said:
Interesting that all the people making a fuss about the US actions in Afghanistan are silent when the Taliban does something and particularly silent when the US is a target of Terrorism.
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Silence is almost preferable. When pushed, they admit it's bad but find a way to make that the US's fault too.

What a sad, small worldview that must be, where even when a small bunch of butchers cut off a woman's nose and ears for leaving her abusive husband, it's somehow the fault of a government thousands of miles away that wants to kill that same small bunch of butchers.
 
JihadJane said:
Indeed.

"So much blood. So many hands. So little culpability. No remorse."
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Civilian casualties >> military friendly fire casualties >> deaths from these leaks


And furthermore, civilian and friendly fire casualties have decreased over the decades as the accuracy of weaponry has increased. It is yet a new low, as far as these things go, in this war.

How much of that new tech is the result of military investment by non-US countries in the Afghan coalition?
 
dudalb said:
Interesting that all the people making a fuss about the US actions in Afghanistan are silent when the Taliban does something and particularly silent when the US is a target of Terrorism.
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Interesting observation, they must really LOVE the Taliban - its the only thing that makes sense...

or perhaps, a little confirmatin bias at work?

Naw, they're probably Taliban lovers.... you're right...
 
Praktik said:
Interesting observation, they must really LOVE the Taliban - its the only thing that makes sense...

or perhaps, a little confirmatin bias at work?

Naw, they're probably Taliban lovers.... you're right...
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Or maybe, they are what Lenin called "Useful Idiots".

They are mostly unreconstructed Marxists who aee any action by the west EVER as "imperialism" and think that any scumbag who goes around killing them and their allies are "heroic". Kinda like the fallacy of the superior virtue of the oppressed.
 
Yes, "useful idiots". Last time I was called one of those was when CTers claimed that my support for the "official story" made me a "useful idiot" for the NWO...

The use of that term is a hallmark of black-and-white/binary thinking, when an individual self-identifies strongly with the subject being debated.

Rarely is it applied accurately IMHO.
 
Beerina said:
Civilian casualties >> military friendly fire casualties >> deaths from these leaks


And furthermore, civilian and friendly fire casualties have decreased over the decades as the accuracy of weaponry has increased. It is yet a new low, as far as these things go, in this war.
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Yes, aren't Afghans an ungrateful lot!
 
Praktik said:
Yes, "useful idiots". Last time I was called one of those was when CTers claimed that my support for the "official story" made me a "useful idiot" for the NWO...

The use of that term is a hallmark of black-and-white/binary thinking, when an individual self-identifies strongly with the subject being debated.

Rarely is it applied accurately IMHO.
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This +10
 
WildCat said:
If Manning is the guy, I hope he rots in jail for a long, long time.
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All the civilian deaths in the war are "collateral damage" or "necessary losses," and if just one possible death from this leak emerges, it's a huge travesty, a completely unacceptable loss of life.

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