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$5000 - $10,000: WTC7 9/11 Challenge

Michael Fullerton, founder of Vernon 9/11 Truth, is offering $5000 to the first person anywhere in the world who can provide some specific answers relating to the 9/11 event. Until September 1st, a Canadian resident can receive $10,000.

Applicants must explain precisely how the official theory of the WTC 7 collapse, as supported by NIST (The National Institute of Standards and Technology), does not violate the laws of physics.<snip>
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http://www.vernon911truth.org/wtc7contest.html

Anyone else in the world is eligible for only $5000. :boggled:

Go, go like the wind, my friends to the north!
 
I love how he feels the fact that all the Universities have ignored him and his theory is insignifican... But he feels the fact the Media have ignored him proves that they don't want to listen to alternate theories.
 
Regrettably, this would be a waste of both time and money for whomever wishes to attempt it.

In 1980, the anti-semitic, Holocaust denying "Institute for Historical Review" offered 50,000 dollars to anyone who could prove Jews were gassed during the Holocaust. Holocaust survivor Mel Mermelstein offered his sworn testimony of seeing his family gassed as evidence of such and the IHR, predictably refused to pay. Mermelstein successfully sued the IHR forcing them to pay the promised amount.

I do not expect these morons to behave any differently from their fellow-travellers at the IHR. Suing them wouldn't get you back as much as what you'd pay in legal costs.

This claim of theirs caught my eye though;

So far the challenge was sent to: the majority of physics professors at University of Toronto, the majority of physics professors at UBC, the majority of physics professors at University of Calgary

I know a physics prof at U of C, I'll be asking him if the loonies have contacted him.
 
Someone should Stundie this bit, at least:

They must explain how a fire-initiated collapse would be symmetrical like a typical controlled demolition and not asymmetrical like every known collapse caused by fire. They must explain the crimp seen in the middle of the building as it started to fall.
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Yep, they must explain both why it was symmetrical, and why it wasn't.....


http://www.informationliberation.com/files/200306wtc7.jpg


"Middle" of the building?
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
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In 1980, the anti-semitic, Holocaust denying "Institute for Historical Review" offered 50,000 dollars to anyone who could prove Jews were gassed during the Holocaust. Holocaust survivor Mel Mermelstein offered his sworn testimony of seeing his family gassed as evidence of such and the IHR, predictably refused to pay. Mermelstein successfully sued the IHR forcing them to pay the promised amount.
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Ha! In fact, har har har! That's made my day.

I rather fear that anyone who took up the 9/11 challenge would indeed find the goalposts moved, with lots of additional criteria suddenly being added, or the terms of the original challenge suddenly changing, or the whole thing vanishing into the ether.
 
Comsat Angel said:
Ha! In fact, har har har! That's made my day.

I rather fear that anyone who took up the 9/11 challenge would indeed find the goalposts moved, with lots of additional criteria suddenly being added, or the terms of the original challenge suddenly changing, or the whole thing vanishing into the ether.
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Yes, it's interesting to note that, while they're big on listing the things that must be "proven" in order to win the challenge, they'd rather less forthcoming about what would be considered "proof", and who will be judging the results.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
This claim of theirs caught my eye though;

So far the challenge was sent to: the majority of physics professors at University of Toronto, the majority of physics professors at UBC, the majority of physics professors at University of Calgary

I know a physics prof at U of C, I'll be asking him if the loonies have contacted him.
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UPDATE: I spoke to Jason Donev at U of C Physics and Astronomy, he says he hasn't heard anything from these people and that requests from people like conspiracy nuts and "free energy" scammers are routinely ignored.
 
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AJM8125 said:
I'll take a 25% Finder's fee. thanks.



http://www.vernon911truth.org/wtc7contest.html

Anyone else in the world is eligible for only $5000. :boggled:

Go, go like the wind, my friends to the north!
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Your "friends to the north" must be delusional psychotics most probably living in mental institutions. This challenge is completely unwinnable because the official story does indeed violate the laws of physics. If you knew anything about elementary high school physics you would clearly see why.
 
cmatrix said:
Your "friends to the north" must be delusional psychotics most probably living in mental institutions. This challenge is completely unwinnable because the official story does indeed violate the laws of physics. If you knew anything about elementary high school physics you would clearly see why.
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I not only have highschool physics, but i have college level physics, in which i recieved a final grade of 90%. Therefore, as an expert, i can tell you with 100% certainty that the collapse of wtc7 as described by nist, did not violate the laws of physics.

Now, whats next?

TAM:)
 
So some moron who can't understand the NIST report wants to pay someone 10 large to explain it to him until he understands it? There's a whole new level of Stupid at work here.

If any of those Universities waste a stamp responding to this guy I'll be making some phone calls.

Take you r $10K, get some gas, drive down to Vancouver, have some sushi down on West 4th and drag your sorry ass into the Admissions office and get a friggin education. Your mom will love you for it, and once you're enrolled THEY HAVE TO ANSWER YOUR RETARD QUESTIONS.
 
3bodyproblem said:
Take you r $10K, get some gas, drive down to Vancouver, have some sushi down on West 4th and drag your sorry ass into the Admissions office and get a friggin education. Your mom will love you for it, and once you're enrolled THEY HAVE TO ANSWER YOUR RETARD QUESTIONS.
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That was my thought. Wouldn't the money be better spend on classes, or something? He already doesn't trust the NIST folks and many others who have degrees and experience in the field in which his challenge applies, so why should we believe he would trust anyone else?

The only logical option is for him to spend that money and personally acquire the education necessary to analyze the event himself.
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As mentioned in the mod-box above, edited for personalizing the discussion.
 
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carlitos said:
Given how incredibly complex the system (construction of WTC7 building) was, and how chaotic the collapse was (penthouse falling several seconds into building, indicating interior destruction going on well before the visible collapse), how do you know that "extra" energy was required? Can you point me to where this analysis has been done?

ETA - How much energy did the fire release, how much kinetic energy via debris hit the building, and therefore how much more was needed? That sort of thing.
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No analysis is needed just two simple facts any non-moron should easily understand: 1) free fall means no resistance. 2) normal office fires can't blow out 8 stories of structure simultaneously. If fire didn't do it something else did which is not acknowledged in the US government's official crackpot loony theory. So their crackpot theory violates the (conservation) laws of physics. Only violently obtuse crackpots like JREFtards believe in such insane theories.
 
cmatrix said:
No analysis is needed
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translation: I would not understand such an analysis if it was in front of me
just two simple facts any non-moron should easily understand:
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cmatrix is admitting to this mental state himself
1) free fall means no resistance. 2) normal office fires can't blow out 8 stories of structure simultaneously.
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see above post of mine
If fire didn't do it something else did which is not acknowledged in the US government's official crackpot loony theory. So their crackpot theory violates the (conservation) laws of physics. Only violently obtuse crackpots like JREFtards believe in such insane theories.
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This statement indicates with out a doubt that cmatrix is not versed in what the various laws of conservation are in the subject of physics.
If you actually do understand physics then pray tell show us the most basic description of the amount of energy required.
 
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Dog Town said:
Yet oddly, you still can't show that, with any numbers. Color me surprised!:rolleyes:
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Why do you need numbers? My simple irrefutable analysis clearly shows, to non-morons and non-lunatics at least, how the official crackpot theory violates the (conservation) laws of physics.

Do you think fire blew out 8 stories of structure simultaneously?
 
This thread is generating a disproportionate number of reports for incivility and such, which will be dealt with in due course. I strongly suggest that members tone down the hostility and cut out the name-calling in this thread. Otherwise, there are going to be a whole lot of infractions and possibly suspensions, or the whole thing might find its way to Abandon All Hope.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LashL
 
A week's worth of striploin steaks for all my canadian buddies : $7000

A week's worth of Alexander Keith's Red Amber Ale for all my canadian buddies : $3000

Taking some dumbass's money on a failed conspiracy hypothesis : Priceless

:cool:
 
Xephyr said:
A week's worth of striploin steaks for all my canadian buddies : $7000

A week's worth of Alexander Keith's Red Amber Ale for all my canadian buddies : $3000

Taking some dumbass's money on a failed conspiracy hypothesis : Priceless

:cool:
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Let's see, that's me, T.A.M., Horatius and LashL. Sounds about right as long as the rest of them don't touch the beer! :D
 
3bodyproblem said:
Let's see, that's me, T.A.M., Horatius and LashL. Sounds about right as long as the rest of them don't touch the beer! :D
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So long as I get a couple of steaks and a 24-pack all to myself, you guys can have the rest...

But since I'm the one that's filling your bellies, I get control of the backyard-bonfire-poker-stick thingy !

:p
 
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