Burn a Quran day

Burning the Quran is a bit more offensive to the average Muslim than burning the Bible is to the average Christian. Islam considers every copy of Allah's word sacred, and disposing of, e.g., a worn-out copy of the Quran should be done in a respectable manner.

Can't say I've ever seen a Muslim do it, but wiki says:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qur'an

wiki said:
Worn out, torn, or errant (for example, pages out of order) Qur’ans are not discarded as wastepaper, but rather are left free to flow in a river, kept somewhere safe, burned, or buried in a remote location.

Of course, I would suspect that the intent behind burning a book is more important than the act.
 
The alleged respect for the Koran in Islam smacks of idolatry.
 
And I think we have a Division winner in Florida. Stay tuned for the playoffs, featuring Fred Phelps, the Oklahoma Division winner.

Kansas is in Oklahoma's division? Fred Phelps' church is in Topeka, KS dude. Don't get me wrong; as a Kansas resident, I wouldn't mind a bit if he moved to Oklahoma.
 
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Burning the Q'uran is a waste of good insulation material ... just imagine how many pork farmers are forced to house their pigs in those drafty pole-barns, and how easy it would be to line the walls with a few thousand copies of Mohammed's Best.
 
Flag burning is OK so I expect that book burning is also besides if I own the book I can dispose of it as I see fit.

Would you give up your rights under threat of violence?

The question is how is book burning free speech. The correct answer is that you do not know not anything about what I would do.
 
The question is how is book burning free speech. The correct answer is that you do not know not anything about what I would do.


Free speech is not limited to what is said:

Freedom of speech is the freedom to speak without censorship or limitation, or both. The synonymous term freedom of expression is sometimes used to indicate not only freedom of verbal speech but any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used, known in United States law as "symbolic speech".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech


Apparently if your freedom of speech is challenged, you dodge.
 
Free speech is not limited to what is said:

Freedom of speech is the freedom to speak without censorship or limitation, or both. The synonymous term freedom of expression is sometimes used to indicate not only freedom of verbal speech but any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used, known in United States law as "symbolic speech".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech


Apparently if your freedom of speech is challenged, you dodge.

What does freedom of speech apply to Sherlock? Just because you think you are using a valid argument doesn't mean you are. you do know that don't you? Once again I am going to ask you, how does freedom of speech apply to burning a koran?
 
What does freedom of speech apply to Sherlock? Just because you think you are using a valid argument doesn't mean you are. you do know that don't you? Once again I am going to ask you, how does freedom of speech apply to burning a koran?

First of all my name isn't Sherlock.

The link I gave you explained that "freedom of speech" also covers symbolic acts that are intended to communicate.

By burning a Koran they intend to communicate their disagreement with Islam.
 
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/07/29/florida.burn.quran.day/?hpt=C2



Dove World Outreach Center:
http://www.doveworld.org/about-us

Is this for real?
I googled them, along with the term "Poe's law", but didn't get the reassurance i was looking for.

I went to college at UF in Gainesville (go Gators!). I think I know who these people are. When I went to school there was this group of nasty Christians who were just always around town harassing people. They'd hang out on University ave near the Catholic church + Jewish temple and shout hellfire and brimstone. They were constantly protesting the Hare Krishnas when they'd have events. They would be on campus all the time. They'd drag around huge crosses and scream and rant about how basically everyone is going to hell. They were awful and I had to see and hear them almost every day. I often had to listen to their hateful jeers when I was going to church in the Catholic church, having been Catholic at that time.

I don't know if this was just one group or multiple groups, but I think it was just one church. I wonder if these are the same guys, but this sounds like them. They were always yelling about how things were from the devil, like evolution.
 
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Once again I ask you what is covered by the constitutional guarantee of free speech. Are you going to answer or just waste my time with you're mental masturbation?

Book burning is covered by the First Amendment, as amply explained by tsig, just as flag burning is. And really, that is such a no-brainer that there probably isn't even legal precedent (about the book burning; there is about the flag burning). From the First Amendment Center:
In fairness, it's important to remember that the same First Amendment that protects books and music also gives Harry Potter critics the right to destroy books in a public demonstration.

I was struck by the comment of Brock's wife, Sharon, who described the book burning this way: "It's really symbolic," she told the Associated Press. "Like you're putting it in a fire to get rid of it from your life."

For years, this country has been split over another symbolic act: the burning of the American flag in protest of U.S. policies.

In 1989, the U.S. Supreme Court concluded that as disagreeable an act as it may be, burning the flag is a symbolic act of free expression and is protected by the First Amendment.

ETA: and you might tone down a peg or two. Keep complaining that your question wasn't answered while it obviously was doesn't look good.
 
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This wouldn't have happened if Kiffin had stayed at Tennessee and Gainesville could've kept their hatred centered on the Volunteers.
 
I get the feeling that religious extremism is on the rise in the 'States. Much like "shock jocks" on the radio, and on TV now (Watch anything even remotely political), I would think it wouldn't take long for the religious offices to take note that there is money in this sort of thing. I'm not altogether surprised that this kind of thing is happening more frequently, but I am dismayed.

Any five year old on the internet has heard the phrase, "Do not feed the troll."
What kind of example are adults making by feeding the trolls in real life?

Don't feed trolls, people. They start making money and all kinds of them come out of the woodwork.
 
Yes. it's a kind of trolling: in the real world. "Outreach"? , more like "Outretch" -
the rest of the world wouldn't know (or care) they existed if it weren't for such stunts.
Now they're on CNN.
 
Book burning is covered by the First Amendment, as amply explained by tsig, just as flag burning is. ...
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Locally, the Air Quality Management District will interfere with spontaneous non-approved combustion.
 
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Locally, the Air Quality Management District will interfere with spontaneous non-approved combustion.

"Spontaneous"? But well, yes, the fire department may also object. Both in the same case:
CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa — A local church's plan for an old-fashioned book-burning has been thwarted by city and county fire codes.

[...]

Not so fast, city officials said.

"We don't want a situation where people are burning rubbish as a recreational fire," said Brad Brenneman, the fire department's district chief.

Linn County won't allow a fire outside city limits, either. The county's air-quality division prohibits the transporting of materials from the city to the county for burning.

"I can pretty much guarantee you that we would be denying a burn permit for those activities," said Tony Daugherty, the county's senior air-pollution specialist.
But that doesn't negate the First Amendment protection. Just don't do it in a way that it's an air quality issue or a fire hazard. :D
 
The more you hate such enemies, the more you resemble them. Hate begets willful ignorance, and vice versa.

(added) I think it's much better to laugh at such behaviour than it is to condemn it.

-- And yes, I also mean laugh in the face of terrorism, itself. Which did us more actual harm... the 9/11 incident or our reaction to it? Don't get me wrong; those who died in the attack and their families deserve our sympathy. However, the event was not so significant that it should change our country to the degree that it has. A few security countermeasures: OK. A few bombs thrown at known al-kaida training sights: Fine. Two expensive wars, corroded privacy rights, an overgrown intelligence behemoth operating within our own borders, an increase in racial/ethnic tensions, and a portion of debt that we most likely will never recover from (right after the first non-deficit year in recent history, I might add)? NO. We are attacked by terrorists and our response is to destroy ourselves from within. Rather unfortunate, I think.

Oh, and did I forget to mention that our country seemed to think that torture was OK for a time? When did we become such freaking wimps that a petty, pointless display of beligerance can change our culture to the degree that it has? It's well past time to get over it. We have done more damage to ourselves than Al Quida ever dreamed of doing.

(added again) And yes, I know this thread wasn't about our recent wars, but it all ties together. Such acts as these (the book burning) are not exactly a show of strength... they are a sign of fear. It's pathetic. Almost 10 years after the event, without any significant later disasters, some in our populace are still reeling in panic due to 9/11. When do we get to stop obsessing about it?

And yes, I think some of this trend applies and has partially caused our recent financial situation, as well. In the immortal words President Roosevelt pertaining to the Great Depression: "The only thing to fear is fear itself." We've become paralyzed by a lack of confidence... its really that simple at this point. Perhaps it didn't start that way... immoral and untenable mortgage lending is what started the whole mess to a degree, but the fallout has gone farther than what that should have ever taken us.

Again, when did this country's culture become made of glass? -- to be so easily broken by a small group of terrorists and some ill-advised predatory lenders? I assume we WILL recover, but it's taking far too long in both cases.
 
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Once again I ask you what is covered by the constitutional guarantee of free speech and why burning a koran qualifies as free speech.

Your question why burning a book qualifies as free speech has already been answered multiple times. It has been backed up by a number of sources. Without any explanation whatsoever, you keep repeating the same question. I notice you recently did exactly the same thing in an evolution thread w.r.t. the term "zygote". Do you lack in reading comprehension or are you trolling or what?

As to what is and what is not covered by the free speech clause in the First Amendment - I'm not a constitutional legal scholar and I'm not even American. But it's easy to dig up (supreme) court verdicts about it. Some samples:
- flag burning is covered (see Texas vs Johnson)
- porn is covered (see Flynt vs. Falwell)
- bringing a same-sex-date to the prom is covered (see McMillen vs Itawamba school district)

As you see, "speech" is a lot more wider than just uttering words with your mouth.
 

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