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Continuation - The PG Film - Bob Heironimus and Patty

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Elbow placement: invented.
Eye placement: imagined.
Knee placement: imprecise.
Foot placement: unknown.
Scaling issues: ignored.
Figure distortion through costume features: rejected.
Ideas: Irrational.
Conclusions: Illogical.
Hypothesis: Unfounded.
Opinion: Baseless.
Evidence: Non-evidential.
Certainty: Imaginary.
Thoughts: Fantastical.
Ravings: Lunatic.
 
Sweaty, if I concede your measurements are fine, will you concede a +/- 5% error margin on your measurements?
 
Your mind: Deluded.


But you were the one "running the numbers" on the doll-hand illusion, with Aepervius....when I pointed out to you the fact that Spektator's 'illusion'...even if legitimate...was completely irrelevant. :D


Ain't that neat....you needed schooling by someone who is "delusional".
 
But you were the one "running the numbers" on the doll-hand illusion, with Aepervius....when I pointed out to you the fact that Spektator's 'illusion'...even if legitimate...was completely irrelevant. :D


Ain't that neat....you needed schooling by someone who is "delusional".


Sweaty, is it possible that you are labouring under the illusion that, despite your every claim being completely vapourised by the reality-based posters in this thread, you have still somehow managed to sow the seeds of doubt in the minds of teh Lurkers™?

If so, I have tragic news for you.
 
But you were the one "running the numbers" on the doll-hand illusion, with Aepervius....when I pointed out to you the fact that Spektator's 'illusion'...even if legitimate...was completely irrelevant. :D


Ain't that neat....you needed schooling by someone who is "delusional".

Please take whatever spark of rational thought led you to that observation and apply it to the landslide of baloney you've foisted on us in every other one of your gibbering, nonsensical posts.
 
But you were the one "running the numbers" on the doll-hand illusion, with Aepervius....when I pointed out to you the fact that Spektator's 'illusion'...even if legitimate...was completely irrelevant.

Ain't that neat....you needed schooling by someone who is "delusional".

But you were the one that did a 180 on Bob having arm extensions inside the suit at Cow Camp for which the suit itself was insufficient when I challenged you to a wager on it and started lying when I busted you.

Ain't that neat? You got schooled using your own undistorted statements and couldn't deal with it without being dishonest.
 
kitakaze wrote:
But you were the one that did a 180 on Bob having arm extensions inside the suit at Cow Camp....


Wrong.

I haven't changed my thinking, or my claims, concerning the suit......it had hand extensions. :D
 
Wrong.

I haven't changed my thinking, or my claims, concerning the suit......it had hand extensions. :D

Your posting history contradicts that assertion, as any literate person can read in the pages of this thread. You claimed the Morris "Cow Camp" suit needed mechanical hand extensions to match Patty's arm length. You were mistaken. This is a matter of public record, regardless of your transparent and dishonest pretense to the contrary.

Why you cannot simply say, "Oh wait, you guys were right, my mistake," when I and others here have carefully built reputations of intellectual honesty -- of admitting when we are in error -- is a mystery to which only you know the solution. Pride and stubbornness, along with a limited capacity for critical thought, are my guesses as to your motivations.

Contrary to what you appear to believe, admitting mistakes actually increases one's credibility. If you could own up to just one instance of error, you would get more respect here, along with a greater willingness to entertain your ideas. As it stands, there is clearly no point discussing anything with you, since you simply ignore or hand-wave away serious objections to your methods and conclusions, and press on as if no one ever blew your ludicrous garbage out of the water time and time again, on page after embarrassing page in this and the other BF threads here.

You are the only person arguing for these stupid, stupid ideas; no one agrees with you, not even other BF believers; and everyone here is completely fed up with your never-ending barrage of thoughtless, inconsequential trash.
 
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Sweaty, is it possible that you are labouring under the illusion that, despite your every claim being completely vapourised by the reality-based posters in this thread, you have still somehow managed to sow the seeds of doubt in the minds of teh Lurkers™?

If so, I have tragic news for you.
Yup. Sweaty's misrepresentation, outright lying, deception, evasion and squirming are obvious for all to see.
Personally I've had him killfiled for a long time so all I see of his nonsense are the quoted bits, and that is more than enough.
 
Whether or not Sweaty is a troll, I am quite happy to point out his lies and contradictions...

Wrong.

I haven't changed my thinking, or my claims, concerning the suit......it had hand extensions.

Lie.

Cow Camp Bob had extensions inside his suit in 2004 and the suit itself was insufficient for the extended length of the forearm vs the suit arm itself was doing the extending = 180.

The Proof:

#1742

This is so delicious that Sweaty, who talks about the need to be precise and clear with definitions, refuses to be precise and give clarity here. He is simply trying to use obfuscation and semantic quibbling so as not to back up his statements. Did the CC Bob suit have an internal device or stick type object extending his forearms or was it the suit arm and glove sufficiently extending CC Bob's arms to equal Patty's? He won't tell us. Run, squirm, lie, copypasta - anything but forthright honesty and clarity.

What's particularly entertaining to me is that Sweaty in his chronic deception and intellectual dishonesty has forced himself into a situation where he can't give clarity, only repeat the vagueness. If he does back up his prior statement of fact of CC Bob having an internal extension device or object, then I challenge him to put his avatar on the line in which if he loses the wager, he has to wear a simple avatar that says he was owned by me. If I lose the wager and CC Bob did have those internal extensions, pow, I have to take an avatar for a week that Sweaty owned me. Sweaty has such a fetish and obsession with making skeptics look like idiots, and would never concede such a failure to me, that he will do anything to get away from it, including outright lying, which essentially makes him just another Bigfoot hoaxer who will do anything for their beliefs.

Internal forearm extensions on CC Bob needed to make him equal Patty's arms made prior to wager challenge...

In the comparison image that you use, to show that 'Bob-in-a-suit matches Patty'....Bob has hand extensions in the suit...(Hey....just ask him :) ).

Note the 60-pixel difference in length, on the arms...

[qimg]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/SweatyYeti/Fun/Pattybobbob3.jpg[/qimg]

"A hand in a glove is just fine"....WASN'T just fine....it was insufficient.

No, I'm looking at the length of 'Bob-in-a-suit's' left forearm.....it's ridiculously long.

But, as I said earlier.....I can do more comparisons...to prove it.

Here comes Peter RUG-ged tail...
Hopping down the RUG-ged trail...

[qimg]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/SweatyYeti/Patty%20and%20Bob%20Two/RuggedBob9A.jpg[/qimg]


....with his left hand about to fall off...

Yup....no 'hand extension' there...

VS

CC Bob suit itself is sufficiently extending NS Bob's forearms to equal Patty's statements made after wager challenge...

The suit arms extend the length of Bob's arms....and the 'Patty/Bob-in-a-suit' comparison image, that you've been posting, kitakaze, shows Patty's arm length and the suit's arm length to be very close to equal, if not exactly equal.

A suit can extend the length of a person's arms...and, in Bob's case, it would have to extend the length of his arms, in order for his arm length to equal/match Patty's arm length.

FACT: The suit arm extends the length of Bob's arms.

Total and complete 180.

Sweaty saying he was talking about Patty and no suit Bob, not CC Bob and NS (No Suit) Bob = lie.

Sweaty saying I combined statements from various posts of his to distort the truth = lie.

Sweaty saying he was talking about fingers bending and not the CC suit internal extension device or object extending the arm length of NS Bob = lie.

That's a lot of lying...

 
kitakaze wrote:
....was it the suit arm and glove sufficiently extending CC Bob's arms to equal Patty's?

He won't tell us.


Yes I will....the suit arm extended the length of Bob's arms/hands. :)



Again...you have misrepresented this statement of mine...


"A hand in a glove is just fine"....WASN'T just fine....it was insufficient.


"Insufficient" was used in reference to the 'fingers bending'...not the 'arm length being extended'.


Vort...in post #1720.....wrote this:

In summary, Sweaty was indeed addressing the subject with regard to the fingers bending (as we can see in his posts #3581 and #3586), just as he claims.


kitakaze continues to misrepresent my statements....intentionally.
 
Will you concede +/-5% error on your measurements?


Hang in there, Drew....I'm off to work...I'll try again, this evening/tonight.

The answer is not just a simple 'yes' or 'no'....it's 'yes' on some measurement points, and 'no' on others.
 
Well sweaty, I've enjoyed the exchanges sometimes but I have to say that its hard to engage you when you avoid important issues such as subject scale, and direct comparison of that with Heironimus. (and how you arrived at scale estimates) This way you could actually show with real world numbers how BH could or could not have fit into the suit.

Until you're willing to post some non gobbly gook elbow reach around the points dodging bullets with a single 15 yard bound silently while slapping hogs into trees in the swamp 4 mile an hour strolling har tittay thingymabobby. Uhm, that makes about as much sense as your diagrams. I'm ashamed. You should be too. :-D Man, I really tried. Good luck with your, elbow reach and uhm, the whole real animal PGF thing.

Peace sweaty

(until you manage to address those all important figures)
 
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