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Australia

I shall have to conduct further research.

:)

As an aside, I note that the grog companies have some great looking sites. That one is very well done indeed, and just goes to show that Flash sites can actually be done tastefully.

James Squire is a boutique label put out by Lion Nathan, and they make some pretty damn good ales. Don't expect to pay less than $55 a slab though.

It's named for a First Fleet convict called James Squire, who was reputedly Australias first commercial brewer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Squire
 
Fair 'nuff mate. I didn't know or had forgotten you were completely dry.

Good on you, and get well soon.

:)

No harm nor offence. Grog isn't a problem unless it gets inside me.

For the record, I am sober 10 years and 10 months.

Drink up.

I had a hot lemon drink and a hot blond wife before sleep last night (she gave me the cold, so won't get it back), just to sweat it out of me.

Hasn't quite worked. Will try again tonight. :D

Cheers.
 
I think it goes far deeper than that. e.g. If an atheist was to "push and shove" their views onto anyone they would be "condemned", as you say.

For mine, people telling others how to do things will be told to "piss off".

Generally speaking, we appreciate each others differences and have a fantastic "live and let live" attitude regardless of belief.

Something I would like to add to that - I think we are more interested in what brings us together rather than divides. By that - an athiest and fundelmentalist wont clash as long as both can agree they hate/love Collingwood, or the current Australian cricket captain is a mug/brilliant or whatever. Or Queensland beer is awful/best etc

It was one of the central themes of "They're a weird mob" Nino - is sort of an outcast, not because the guys disliked him, but they just didn't know what to make of him. However in the pub it is clear Nino can pack away the drinks as well as any of them, and before the nights over he is their best collective cobber ever

And think about that - Nino has virtually no cultural references in Australia, hardly speaks the language. What do the boys zone in on. He loves a beer...that make him a mate.

I obviously can't speak for everyone, but I think that's a pretty cool society that can do that :)
 
Something I would like to add to that - I think we are more interested in what brings us together rather than divides. By that - an athiest and fundelmentalist wont clash as long as both can agree they hate/love Collingwood, or the current Australian cricket captain is a mug/brilliant or whatever. Or Queensland beer is awful/best etc

It was one of the central themes of "They're a weird mob" Nino - is sort of an outcast, not because the guys disliked him, but they just didn't know what to make of him. However in the pub it is clear Nino can pack away the drinks as well as any of them, and before the nights over he is their best collective cobber ever

And think about that - Nino has virtually no cultural references in Australia, hardly speaks the language. What do the boys zone in on. He loves a beer...that make him a mate.

I obviously can't speak for everyone, but I think that's a pretty cool society that can do that :)

Very well put! And very true too.
 
Something I would like to add to that - I think we are more interested in what brings us together rather than divides. By that - an athiest and fundelmentalist wont clash as long as both can agree they hate/love Collingwood, or the current Australian cricket captain is a mug/brilliant or whatever. Or Queensland beer is awful/best etc

It was one of the central themes of "They're a weird mob" Nino - is sort of an outcast, not because the guys disliked him, but they just didn't know what to make of him. However in the pub it is clear Nino can pack away the drinks as well as any of them, and before the nights over he is their best collective cobber ever

And think about that - Nino has virtually no cultural references in Australia, hardly speaks the language. What do the boys zone in on. He loves a beer...that make him a mate.

I obviously can't speak for everyone, but I think that's a pretty cool society that can do that :)

Those hating Collingwood might want to start thinking about booking their September overseas trips.
 
Something I would like to add to that - I think we are more interested in what brings us together rather than divides. By that - an athiest and fundelmentalist wont clash as long as both can agree they hate/love Collingwood, or the current Australian cricket captain is a mug/brilliant or whatever. Or Queensland beer is awful/best etc

It was one of the central themes of "They're a weird mob" Nino - is sort of an outcast, not because the guys disliked him, but they just didn't know what to make of him. However in the pub it is clear Nino can pack away the drinks as well as any of them, and before the nights over he is their best collective cobber ever

And think about that - Nino has virtually no cultural references in Australia, hardly speaks the language. What do the boys zone in on. He loves a beer...that make him a mate.

I obviously can't speak for everyone, but I think that's a pretty cool society that can do that :)


Too bloody right, Cobber.


So Phillip spoke 'is piece, fair puffed wif pride.
An' 'im an' me dreamed by the 'arbor-side
I, of the scene before, of years to be,
An' of the marvels that men yet might see​
'Im, of a lantern gleamin' thro' the fog
To light a tent, an' two men, an' a dog ....
Then both of us, like some queer instinct bids,​
Stands up, serloots the Bridge, an' dips our lids.​
- C J Dennis
​
 
Oh yay! C.J. Dennis! :D One of my favourites!

Shall I? I think I shall...

Doreen an' me, we bin to see a show --
The swell two-dollar touch. Bong tong, yeh know.
A chair apiece wiv velvit on the seat;
A slap-up treat.
The drarmer's writ be Shakespeare, years ago,
About a barmy goat called Romeo.

...

A tug named Tyball (cousin to the skirt)
Sprags 'em an' makes a start to sling off dirt.
Nex' minnit there's a reel ole ding-dong go -—
'Arf round or so.
Mick Curio, 'e gets it in the neck,
"Ar rats!" 'e sez, an' passes in 'is check.

Quite natchril, Romeo gits wet as 'ell.
"It's me or you!" 'e 'owls, an' wiv a yell,
Plunks Tyball through the gizzard wiv 'is sword,
'Ow I ongcored!
"Put in the boot!" I sez. "Put in the boot!"
"'Ush!" sez Doreen ... "Shame!" sez some silly coot.

Read on!

http://www.middlemiss.org/lit/authors/denniscj/sbloke/play.html
 
Oh yay! C.J. Dennis! :D One of my favourites!

Shall I? I think I shall...

Read on!

http://www.middlemiss.org/lit/authors/denniscj/sbloke/play.html


Or better still . . .


Cast yer lookin' gear over this:



The Play

Wot's in a name? -- she sez . . . An' then she sighs,
An' clasps 'er little 'ands, an' rolls 'er eyes.
"A rose," she sez, "be any other name
Would smell the same.
Oh, w'erefore art you Romeo, young sir?
Chuck yer ole pot, an' change yer moniker!"

Doreen an' me, we bin to see a show --
The swell two-dollar touch. Bong tong, yeh know.
A chair apiece wiv velvit on the seat;
A slap-up treat.
The drarmer's writ be Shakespeare, years ago,
About a barmy goat called Romeo.

"Lady, be yonder moon I swear!" sez 'e.
An' then 'e climbs up on the balkiney;
An' there they smooge a treat, wiv pretty words
Like two love-birds.
I nudge Doreen. She whispers, "Ain't it grand!"
'Er eyes is shining an' I squeeze 'er 'and.

'Wot's in a name?" she sez. 'Struth, I dunno.
Billo is just as good as Romeo.
She may be Juli-er or Juli-et --
'E loves 'er yet.
If she's the tart 'e wants, then she's 'is queen,
Names never count ... But ar, I like "Doreen!"

A sweeter, dearer sound I never 'eard;
Ther's music 'angs around that little word,
Doreen! ... But wot was this I starts to say
About the play?
I'm off me beat. But when a bloke's in love
'Is thorts turns 'er way, like a 'omin' dove.

This Romeo 'e's lurkin' wiv a crew --
A dead tough crowd o' crooks -- called Montague.
'Is cliner's push -- wot's nicknamed Capulet --
They 'as 'em set.
Fair narks they are, jist like them back-street clicks,
Ixcep' they fights wiv skewers 'stid o' bricks.

Wot's in a name? Wot's in a string o' words?
They scraps in ole Verona wiv the'r swords,
An' never give a bloke a stray dog's chance,
An' that's Romance.
But when they deals it out wiv bricks an' boots
In Little Lon., they're low, degraded broots.

Wot's jist plain stoush wiv us, right 'ere to-day,
Is "valler" if yer fur enough away.
Some time, some writer bloke will do the trick
Wiv Ginger Mick,
Of Spadger's Lane.
'E'll be a Romeo,
When 'e's bin dead five 'undred years or so.

Fair Juli-et, she gives 'er boy the tip.
Sez she: "Don't sling that crowd o' mine no lip;
An' if you run agin a Capulet,
Jist do a get."
'E swears 'e's done wiv lash; 'e'll chuck it clean.
(Same as I done when I first met Doreen.)

They smooge some more at that. Ar, strike me blue!
It gimme Joes to sit an' watch them two! '
E'd break away an' start to say good-bye,
An' then she'd sigh
"Ow, Ro-me-o!" an' git a strangle-holt,
An' 'ang around 'im like she feared 'e'd bolt.

Nex' day 'e words a gorspil cove about
A secret weddin'; an' they plan it out.
'E spouts a piece about 'ow 'e's bewitched:
Then they git 'itched ...
Now, 'ere's the place where I fair git the pip!
She's 'is for keeps, an' yet 'e lets 'er slip!

Ar! but 'e makes me sick! A fair gazob!
E's jist the glarsey on the soulful sob,
'E'll sigh and spruik, a' 'owl a love-sick vow --
(The silly cow!)
But when 'e's got 'er, spliced an' on the straight
'E crools the pitch, an' tries to kid it's Fate.

Aw! Fate me foot! Instid of slopin' soon
As 'e was wed, off on 'is 'oneymoon,
'Im an' 'is cobber, called Mick Curio,
They 'ave to go
An' mix it wiv that push o' Capulets.
They look fer trouble; an' it's wot they gets.

A tug named Tyball (cousin to the skirt)
Sprags 'em an' makes a start to sling off dirt.
Nex' minnit there's a reel ole ding-dong go -—
'Arf round or so.
Mick Curio, 'e gets it in the neck,
"Ar rats!" 'e sez, an' passes in 'is check.

Quite natchril, Romeo gits wet as 'ell.
"It's me or you!" 'e 'owls, an' wiv a yell,
Plunks Tyball through the gizzard wiv 'is sword,
'Ow I ongcored!
"Put in the boot!" I sez. "Put in the boot!"
"'Ush!" sez Doreen ... "Shame!" sez some silly coot.

Then Romeo, 'e dunno wot to do.
The cops gits busy, like they allwiz do,
An' nose around until 'e gits blue funk
An' does a bunk.
They wants 'is tart to wed some other guy.
"Ah, strike!" she sez. "I wish that I could die!"

Now, this 'ere gorspil bloke's a fair shrewd 'ead.
Sez 'e "I'll dope yeh, so they'll think yer dead."
(I tips 'e was a cunnin' sort, wot knoo
A thing or two.)
She takes 'is knock-out drops, up in 'er room:
They think she's snuffed, an' plant 'er in 'er tomb.

Then things gits mixed a treat an' starts to whirl.
'Ere's Romeo comes back an' finds 'is girl
Tucked in 'er little coffing, cold an' stiff,
An' in a jiff,
'E swallows lysol, throws a fancy fit,
'Ead over turkey, an' 'is soul 'as flit.

Then Juli-et wakes up an' sees 'im there,
Turns on the water-works an' tears 'er 'air,
"Dear love," she sez, "I cannot live alone!"
An' wiv a moan,
She grabs 'is pockit knife, an' ends 'er cares ...
"Peanuts or lollies!" sez a boy upstairs.


- C J Dennis
​


:)
 
Oh don't spoil it for them! :D

[ Hint for non-Aussies: Read it exactly as written out loud. ]

Incidentally, you are looking at a bit of aural history there. This was a very good representation of the Aussie accent and vocabulary in back-street Melbourne city about 1910 or so. Dennis captured it nicely with a series of poems like this about The Bloke, a bit of a down-and-out but happy-go-lucky chap living off his wits. Below is the cover of the original book of poems, with The Bloke with his cigarette and naff neckerchief. Translations of the vocabulary can be provided!

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They smooge some more at that. Ar, strike me blue!
It gimme Joes to sit an' watch them two! '
E'd break away an' start to say good-bye,
An' then she'd sigh
"Ow, Ro-me-o!" an' git a strangle-holt,
An' 'ang around 'im like she feared 'e'd bolt.



I need an interpretation please:

"It gimme Joes to sit an' watch them two!"

I assume this is rhyming slang and the second word (or first) has been dropped off, but I am not familar.

Any ideas anyone?
 
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"Joes" = "Joe Blakes" = "the shakes" (c.f. snakes). Meaning to be unhappy or depressed. In this context, it would mean to get you down.
 
"Joes" = "Joe Blakes" = "the shakes" (c.f. snakes). Meaning to be unhappy or depressed. In this context, it would mean to get you down.

There you go.
I thought of Joe Blakes but dismissed it as I'd always related that to snakes.

I also thought it might be Joe Pitts, or Joe Selection, Joe Warden or similar which would be slang for ... well you get the idea. ;)
 
"Joes" = "Joe Blakes" = "the shakes" (c.f. snakes). Meaning to be unhappy or depressed. In this context, it would mean to get you down.
I always thought it was a reference to the DTs (Delirium tremens).

When I was in the Bondi Surf Club a lot of the members slightly older than me used slang a lot. One favourite was "LKS". This was short for "LKS MacKinnon (Stakes)" a horse race during the Melbourne Cup Carnival. It was run over a mile and a quarter. Which, of course rhymes with water. So LKS means water.

Another was the question "do you current to the Jack?" I'll wait and see if anyone works that one out. ;)
 
That part's right. It is short for "do you current and cake (take) to the Jack Lang (slang)".

We could teach those Cockneys a thing or two. ;)
 

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