Is there really a "Journolist?"

Uh-huh. Predictable response. Dismiss the evidence with hand waving that the source is not non-partisan. :rolleyes:

ADDRESS THE EVIDENCE, not the site it is posted on, please. Thank you.

What evidence on what specific charges? The list offers nothing but vagueness. Pick out what you consider to be the most egregious things that Breitbart has done and then demonstrate, or show where Mediamatters demonstrates, that Breitbart has in fact done those egregious things.

And as for MM being notorious liars? You don't have a shred of evidence to support that claim.

Okay, baby steps.

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What an ornament you are to these forums. :rolleyes:

From the actual transcript:

STEWART: ...Andrew Breitbart, the guy who leaked the edited tape, may be the most honest person in this entire story. This is what he said five months ago.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ANDREW BREITBART: I want it to be in the history books of saying I took down the institutional Left.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

STEWART: See, he didn't say, "I want to be in the history books as a paragon of honesty." He didn't say, "I'd like to be in the Museum of Broadcasting and be known by children around the world as Arnold B. Truthington of Accuracy Lane." No. He said, out loud, "I want to bring down the institutional Left." So, if you are on the institutional Left and you receive a package from him, watch the whole f**king tape! How is that snookering?

That's the "honesty" Stewart was referring to.
 
From the actual transcript:

That's the "honesty" Stewart was referring to.

I'm aware of that. You need to lighten up. This was Jon Stewart afterall. However, there was a great deal of truth in what he said. Fox News snookered no one and Breitbart was the most honest one in the whole affair.
 
What evidence on what specific charges? The list offers nothing but vagueness. Pick out what you consider to be the most egregious things that Breitbart has done and then demonstrate, or show where Mediamatters demonstrates, that Breitbart has in fact done those egregious things.



Okay, baby steps.

CLICK ME:D
I have a better idea. You do your own homework and find us a site with actual evidence.

Hint: you can Google anything, but it is no guarantee you'll get anything valid.
 
I'm aware of that. You need to lighten up. This was Jon Stewart afterall. However, there was a great deal of truth in what he said. Fox News snookered no one and Breitbart was the most honest one in the whole affair.
It's time to give up on you. You clearly have no interest in those things called science, logic and evidence. How on Earth did you get interested in the JREF? :boggled:
 
It's time to give up on you. You clearly have no interest in those things called science, logic and evidence. How on Earth did you get interested in the JREF? :boggled:

I'm a skeptic about a lot of things. I don't accept online character assassinations based on nothing but vague accusations and which are not supported by any evidence. So, I ask you again, pick out what you consider to be the most egregious things that Breitbart has done and then demonstrate that he has in fact done those egregious things. Be specific now.
 
Confessed serial liar David Brock thinks you’re stupid.​

His left-wing character assassination factory, Media Matters for America, has been caught lying once again. Media Matters uses deception and counts on you not making the effort to read the full quotations it truncates.
OK, to start, your link implies MM took some page down.
(Things have a habit of disappearing on the Web so here is a PDF copy of the blog post preserved for posterity.)
Yet I had no trouble finding the MM page. But this is beside the point.

What does MM say that the blogger calls a lie?
Media conservatives falsely claim Obama's Supreme Court criticism was "unprecedented"
MM said:
Right-wing media are attacking President Obama for his criticism of the recent Supreme Court decision in Citizens United v. FEC during the State of the Union, calling it "unprecedented" and accusing the president of "intimidation." In fact, Obama's comments were not "unprecedented"; Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush have previously used the State of the Union to criticize judicial actions, including those of the Supreme Court.
(emphasis mine) MM links to the right wing media's quotes and supports MM's statement, "previously used the State of the Union to criticize judicial actions, including...".

The blog link claims:
In fact the evidence that Media Matters presents—past State of the Union addresses from previous presidents—only demonstrates the opposite, namely, that Obama’s actions are unprecedented.


The blogger cites the following example:
Example #1: Media Matters writes that President Warren Harding criticized the high court:
Harding criticized the Supreme Court for overturning the Child Labor Law in his 1922 State of the Union.
The blogger claims Harding wasn't criticizing the court. Here's the blogger's interpretation:
This reads like a mere statement of fact. Harding recognizes the high court has produced a result he didn’t agree with and recommends that the Constitution be amended.

Here's Harding's actual statement linked from the blogger's page:
Closely related to this problem of education is the abolition of child labor. Twice Congress has attempted the correction of the evils incident to child employment. The decision of the Supreme Court has put this problem outside the proper domain of Federal regulation until the Constitution is so amended as to give the Congress indubitable authority.
:boggled: That is a statement of fact and not a criticism of a Supreme Court decision? That's a stretch.



The second and third examples from MM are Reagan's criticism of Roe v Wade and the school prayer ruling, and Bush's criticism of activist judges below the level of SCOTUS.

MM said:
Reagan directly attacked the Supreme Court for Roe v. Wade. In his 1984 State of the Union address, Reagan attacked the 1973 Supreme Court ruling in Roe v. Wade, during a discussion on abortion
MM also quotes Reagan's criticism that school prayer was unconstitutional.

The blogger claims this was not a President criticizing the court's decisions:
If Reagan’s criticizing the high court, he’s certainly going about it in an oblique fashion. The speech doesn’t reference any Supreme Court ruling.
What was Reagan criticizing then? Seriously. Did Congress pass a law Reagan was criticizing? Was Reagan saying he was happy with the Court's decisions and was merely suggesting Constitutional Amendments because Reagan recognized the Constitution really did outlaw abortion and school prayer? :rolleyes:

MM added Bush's criticism of activist judges redefining marriage. The blogger's complaint: it wasn't a Supreme Court activist decision, it was a lower court Bush was addressing. MM never claimed Bush criticized the Supreme Court. So I guess the blogger's complaint was that the additional evidence that Presidents have criticized the Judicial Branch made MM a liar since the example wasn't technically the same as Obama's. :rolleyes:


All in all this is a pretty weak claim that MM lied in their calling out the right wing media for trying to portray Obama as unpresidential.
 
I'm a skeptic about a lot of things. I don't accept online character assassinations based on nothing but vague accusations and which are not supported by any evidence. ...
It would appear you believe this, however, it also appears you simply cherry pick evidence you like and dismiss supported criticisms you don't like.
 
Uh-huh. Predictable response. Dismiss the evidence with hand waving that the source is not non-partisan. :rolleyes:

ADDRESS THE EVIDENCE, not the site it is posted on, please. Thank you.
Oh yes, almost there, wait for it...

And as for MM being notorious liars? You don't have a shred of evidence to support that claim. Breitbart, and Fox OTOH, there is more than a wealth of evidence supporting they are frequent sources of lies.


OHHHH the irony is so good I need a cigarette.
 
What does MM say that the blogger calls a lie?
Media conservatives falsely claim Obama's Supreme Court criticism was "unprecedented"(emphasis mine) MM links to the right wing media's quotes and supports MM's statement, "previously used the State of the Union to criticize judicial actions, including...".

The blog link claims:

The blogger cites the following example:The blogger claims Harding wasn't criticizing the court. Here's the blogger's interpretation:

Here's Harding's actual statement linked from the blogger's page

Closely related to this problem of education is the abolition of child labor. Twice Congress has attempted the correction of the evils incident to child employment. The decision of the Supreme Court has put this problem outside the proper domain of Federal regulation until the Constitution is so amended as to give the Congress indubitable authority.

::boggled: That is a statement of fact and not a criticism of a Supreme Court decision? That's a stretch.

LOL! You're kidding, right?

Reagan directly attacked the Supreme Court for Roe v. Wade. In his 1984 State of the Union address, Reagan attacked the 1973 Supreme Court ruling in Roe v. Wade, during a discussion on abortion

The blogger claims this was not a President criticizing the court's decisions:What was Reagan criticizing then? Seriously. Did Congress pass a law Reagan was criticizing? Was Reagan saying he was happy with the Court's decisions and was merely suggesting Constitutional Amendments because Reagan recognized the Constitution really did outlaw abortion and school prayer? :rolleyes:

Here is the entirety of what he said on both matters in the State of the Union speech:

And while I'm on this subject, each day your Members observe a 200-year-old tradition meant to signify America is one nation under God. I must ask: If you can begin your day with a member of the clergy standing right here leading you in prayer, then why can't freedom to acknowledge God be enjoyed again by children in every schoolroom across this land?

America was founded by people who believed that God was their rock of safety. He is ours. I recognize we must be cautious in claiming that God is on our side, but I think it's all right to keep asking if we're on His side.

During our first 3 years, we have joined bipartisan efforts to restore protection of the law to unborn children. Now, I know this issue is very controversial. But unless and until it can be proven that an unborn child is not a living human being, can we justify assuming without proof that it isn't? No one has yet offered such proof; indeed, all the evidence is to the contrary. We should rise above bitterness and reproach, and if Americans could come together in a spirit of understanding and helping, then we could find positive solutions to the tragedy of abortion.


Where is the reference to the Supreme Court on either issue or the court ruling on Roe V Wade? Where? A direct attack on the Supreme Court for Roe v. Wade??? Just admit it: Mediamatters out and out lied on both.

MM added Bush's criticism of activist judges redefining marriage. The blogger's complaint: it wasn't a Supreme Court activist decision, it was a lower court Bush was addressing. MM never claimed Bush criticized the Supreme Court.

So, why did MM add Bush's criticism of activist judges? What was the point of it?
 
Breitbart has stated that he did not have, nor did he see, the original tape. I have no reason to not believe him. As to the Obie guys and the NAACP, their responses speak for themselves.
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The rest of us have sufficient reason to NOT believe him.
As mentioned, your critical facilities are underused because you more than likely agree with the message Breitbart intended his slander to accomplish.
 
In case anybody is interested in talking about the "Urban Legend" that Lefty Sarge says he never heard of, there's an interesting article on Politico today:

Journolist was founded by Ezra Klein in early 2007, when he was 22 and working for the liberal publication The American Prospect. Klein continued running it when he went to The Washington Post in 2009. The Post is a mainstream publication, but Journolist was limited to those “from nonpartisan to liberal, center to left.”

I like this quote on Journolist from Chuck Todd of NBC:

Journolist was pretty offensive. Those of us who are mainstream journalists got mixed in with journalists with an agenda. Those folks who thought they were improving journalism are destroying the credibility of journalism.
 
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The rest of us have sufficient reason to NOT believe him.

Of course you do. You're upset at him for his involvement in exposing Acorn to be a criminal organization. You're peeved at him for causing the NAACP and the Obama administration to step out and show us just how imbecilic and incompetent that they are. (As if we didn't already know). You're probably upset at him for giving others a platform to reveal just what a moral reprobate that Obama's "Safe Schools Czar" really is.
 
Of course you do. You're upset at him for his involvement in exposing Acorn to be a criminal organization. You're peeved at him for causing the NAACP and the Obama administration to step out and show us just how imbecilic and incompetent that they are. (As if we didn't already know). You're probably upset at him for giving others a platform to reveal just what a moral reprobate that Obama's "Safe Schools Czar" really is.
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Your critical facilities are underutilized.
 
Of course you do. You're upset at him for his involvement in exposing Acorn to be a criminal organization.

He did no such thing. He just threw some crap at the wall and some of it seemed to stick, but now there is the possiblity that his pimp and ho may face criminal charges for faking it. If that turd had evidence of a crime, why are his dirt bags and not ACORN people facing charges?

Would it bother you much to engage your brain before entering the fray?

You're not discussing anything here. You are trolling.

Address all further comments to the finger. The face is tired of this.
 
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In case anybody is interested in talking about the "Urban Legend" that Lefty Sarge says he never heard of, there's an interesting article on Politico today:

I still have seen no evidence that this is any kind of threat to civilization or some lurking evil. It is certainly nothing nefarious, from what evidence I have seen, and I see no reason to take Turcker Carlson any more seriously than I would any other talking air head. Don't know enough about Chuck Todd to know whether he has two fully-functioning synapses or not. I know only that he is working from a limited data base.

There is certainly nothing that I have seen to indicate that Journolist is anywhere near as harmful to the country as the rightwhacker blowholes likes Hannity and the Lardblob, all singing from the same Mammonite hymnal.
 

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