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Wikileaks founder is "annoyed" by 9/11 conspiracy theories

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Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange, was asked about conspiracy theories by Belfast Telegraph reporter Matthew Bell, who writes:

"His obsession with secrecy, both in others and maintaining his own, lends him the air of a conspiracy theorist. Is he one? "I believe in facts about conspiracies," he says, choosing his words slowly. "Any time people with power plan in secret, they are conducting a conspiracy. So there are conspiracies everywhere. There are also crazed conspiracy theories. It's important not to confuse these two. Generally, when there's enough facts about a conspiracy we simply call this news." What about 9/11? "I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud.""


http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/l...kileaks-founder-julian-assange-14880073.html#

The fruitloops at 9/11 Blogger are all arguing with one another over what this means...

I would put good money on [Wikipedia] being a CIA front.

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I wouldn't go too hard on Mr. Assange here. He's doing dangerous and important work. He evidently hasn't traveled down the rabbit hole deep enough. Maybe his friends should point him towards this web site or http://Visibility911.com or http://ae911truth.org
or http://russbaker.com

And he should check out David Chandler's work at http://911speakout.org

Give the guy some useful information rather than
negative vibes.

Yep, bombard him with drivel made up by someone in their mother's basement! That'll work!

Sorry, but I'll go hard. If this report is correct (and it may not be of course) then this guy is clearly controlled & clearly a fake. This would be very disappointing to me.

Perhaps Wikileaks is the mother-of-all limited hangouts, in that they will reveal seriously damaging evidence, however they are very selective with this evidence for damage control. For instance, with the 'collateral murder' video leak, the general reaction was anger towards our ignorant and brainwashed men in uniform instead of at the willfully evil men in suits who killed us, lied to us about it, then shipped our men over in the first place.

Wikileaks comes away looking like a saint, while further dividing We the People, by design.

Given Assange's reaction, I can only assume he is playing his role as gatekeeper, or needs a weekend visit from Harrit & Gage...

:boggled: :boggled: :boggled:

There's more, if you care to be overwhelmed with teh stupid.
 
He's out there actually doing what these guys think they are doing; why would anyone be surprised that they hate him for that? His existence proves how useless they really are, after all.
 
I love the fact they want to bring in a body language expert to analyze a video he's in to see if he's genuine.

Also the guy who said his fraud meter hit "dead read."
 
Truthers are so beyond reason i am sure if Steven Jones himself came out saying he now believed the official account, they would throw him to the wolves...same for DRG.

TAM:)
 
He's out there actually doing what these guys think they are doing; why would anyone be surprised that they hate him for that? His existence proves how useless they really are, after all.


And as I have pointed out before, the anonymous publishing service offered by WikiLeaks is available to anyone that knows something but is afraid to be caught disclosing it.

wikileaks.org

The web site is being hammered right now but when the dust settles, take a look. They make it clear how to submit material, what they do to verify the source and what kind of protections they give the source.

Here is a presentation given last Saturday by one of the WikiLeak developers on the rational for what they do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U7dAujk5E4

You can skip the first 5:30 of the video.
 
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I think I was there when Bell questioned “What about 9/11?"!

On June 21st I met Julian Assange at a seminar organized by the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe. He was a bit jet-lagged after just flying in from Sydney, but still seemed like an easy-going cosmopolitan traveler. He was standing in the entrance of the European Parliament in the company of a very special and likable politician – Icelandic poet and artist, former Punk-singer now Icelandic Parliament member Birgitta Jonsdottir ( http://joyb.blogspot.com )

I noted that Julian Assange was well versed in the security passes needed to get into certain meetings of the European Parliament. I believe it was during the press conference for the seminar " (self) censorship; new challenges for freedom of expression in Europe " that Belfast Telegraph reporter Matthew Bell had the chance to ask him that question. I had slipped in to this press conference almost by accident, as I was early for the hearing that was about to take place. I remember the question, and it is funny that at the time, the answer to the question “What about 9/11” didn’t shock me more than it did, when he answered it cautiously. The quote from the Belfast Telegraph reporter could be a journalist’s short-hand of Assange’s answer. As I recall it, he tip-toed around the question, indeed saying that there were many established facts about government lying that WikiLeaks could contribute, showing black-on white how we are manipulated into war and mass financial fraud. I do not recall Assange using the words: “false conspiracies such as 9/11” because that would have profoundly revolted me.

This being said, I do not have the audio of the press conference: it should be available somewhere. It is possible that I could have repressed hearing such an absurdity from Assange’s mouth. Now that I think back about it, it could be he said “un-proven theories”, and already that IS bad enough!

Both he and Birgitta Jonsdottir were like hero’s to me, but I agree entirely that, after 9 years of serious citizen investigation, like that done by www.911Truth.org or www.911Blogger.com , the issue of 9/11 IS the ultimate litmus test to see if a journalist / politician is informed, and working for a better understanding of reality, or a victim/perpertrator of the Mighty Wurlitzer supidification meme that high-rises pulverize with their occupants in New-York due to barbaric Muslims high-jacking airplanes with box-cutters.

As a participant citizen in a hearing entitled: "(self) censorship; new challenges for freedom of expression in Europe" http://www.alde.eu/en/details/?no_cache=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=23424&cHash=137ca875fb fumbling a bit awkwardly to find the right words, I tried to steer the discussion to the issue of 9/11 : see my own intervention at 2 hours 26 min on this video link of the full seminar: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdsqw8_alev-full-freedom-of-expression-in_news ( watch at 2:26:00 ).

I will send this link to Birgitta Jonsdottir, who is still a hero to me, even if I do not recall any of her thoughts on September 11th 2001. How many sitting politicians do you know who write poems like this: Cry from the Heart

Birgitta Jonsdottir would be as inspiring as Cynthia Mc Kinney to me if she also gave full support to the WeAreChange 911Truth Citizen movement of the World. I believe she hasn’t arrived there yet, because she lives in a Scandinavian “duck-pond” mentality where people just don’t do such dastardly things as a psychological ware-fare operations killing 3000 of its own citizens to put the country in a State of Emergency due to “external attack”, and implement a phony “War on Terrorism”.

Julian Assange, with a broader back-ground in government lies, should know better: he should come clear about any remark he would have done implying that September 11th 2001 being a government inside job “is not proven”. It is clearly proven by peer-reviewed scientific journals proving the use of tons of expensive Pentagon High-Tech sol-gel-nano-thermate, and the collective scientific opinion as expressed by more than 1200 architects and engineers on the excellent site of www.AE911Truth.org
I still tend to believe Assange is passionate about his work, but if you’re out to leak some essential documents, there is no need to only go via WikiLeaks. The Icelandic Media Initiative is on a good way towards realization, and the Swedish Pirate party is also setting up a site with Parliamentary immunity and secrecy to ensure that the internet stays a source of information and freedom of expression and thought.

Best regards from Brussels, Belgium,

Dr Eric Beeth

I highly doubt that Eric Beeth is a "Dr" of anything.
 
Belgium might be like Germany -- anyone with the equivalent of a Master's degree is Dr. So-and-so (and yes, they use that as their title all the time, and it's not a sign of pomposity).

Whatever he is, he sure as hell has a very strange conception of 'proof'.
 
The list of co-conspirators just gets longer and longer. Now we can add Julian Assange to the mix. Brilliant.
 
The list of co-conspirators just gets longer and longer. Now we can add Julian Assange to the mix. Brilliant.




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Some days ya just wish you could round up all the truthers, put them in a big pit, and yell down at them,

You bunch of stupid ****ers!!

TAM:)
 
He's out there actually doing what these guys think they are doing; why would anyone be surprised that they hate him for that? His existence proves how useless they really are, after all.

:D Spot on, as usual, Horatius!


Read this doozy & read the hilited areas for some laughs:



I highly doubt that Eric Beeth is a "Dr" of anything.

Chewy, the denial is strong with this one ("Dr" Beeth). :D
 
Belgium might be like Germany -- anyone with the equivalent of a Master's degree is Dr. So-and-so (and yes, they use that as their title all the time, and it's not a sign of pomposity).

Whatever he is, he sure as hell has a very strange conception of 'proof'.


Tonight I got a message a message at the top of the screen hinting at maybe I should do my first post in the forum. Well so be it.

I would think that many a Dr. in Germany would feel himself slightened by this remark by timhau. In Switzerland, which is not so much different from Germany in this respect, you may not call yourself a Dr. after you've made your master's degree. For that you have to have completed a doctorate which can easily take you another five years, depending on the subject of your studies.

My nephew e.g. has a master's degree in electrical engineering from the ETH in Zürich and is now a doctoral (?) candidate. He may soon call himself a Dr., but doing it now would be illegal.

As Belgium also is part of the EU, as Germany is, I think it's about the same there.
 
Perhaps Wikileaks is the mother-of-all limited hangouts, in that they will reveal seriously damaging evidence, however they are very selective with this evidence for damage control.

Hey all, this is a great thread...

That we are good enough to be reasonable as we consider that Asange is most likely a limited hangout, and also most likely operating with a gun to his head because of his organization being "conveniently supplied with incriminating videos and other forms of classified? information" and further, most likely infiltrated as most of our organizations are, is a very BIG compliment to the 9/11 Truth for World Peace and Justice Community.

Another obvious possibility is that Assange is a shill and wikileaks is a honeypot. In any case, whatever his reason for making the statement about 9/11, he's proven that he's not objective or reasonable, and I personally don't trust his judgment- at all. Anyone seeking to blow the whistle should find another avenue. People should still monitor what goes on w/ wikileaks- if it's not a honeypot, useful info may come out of it, and if hard evidence emerges that it is a honeypot, the public needs to know that as well.

While strictly true, this is very misleading. You seem to misunderstand the meaning of 'honeypot' - the whole point is that they must be seen to contain information or resources of value, at least on some superficial level - that's how they work.

Why not just upload useful information somewhere anonymously or leave/mail physical copies around? Wikileaks is obviously a honeypot, and Assange some kind of new media mockingbird asset.

Limited hangout?

Honeypots?

Mockingbird asset?

Truthers so want it to be 1984 they've developed their own Newspeak. ;)

What are they on about?
 
Tonight I got a message a message at the top of the screen hinting at maybe I should do my first post in the forum. Well so be it.

I would think that many a Dr. in Germany would feel himself slightened by this remark by timhau. In Switzerland, which is not so much different from Germany in this respect, you may not call yourself a Dr. after you've made your master's degree. For that you have to have completed a doctorate which can easily take you another five years, depending on the subject of your studies.

I'm not familiar with the Swiss system nor do I know whether there have been changes in the German one, but at least a few years ago, the degree the Germans call a doctorate was not a sufficient formal qualification for a professorship in a German university. Dr. Schmidt needed something called a Habilitationsschrift before he/she could turn into Prof. Dr. Schmidt.

In that sense, it's at least somewhat comparable to a U.S. Master's degree (which is also a post-graduate degree, unlike many of the pre-Bologna degrees that colloquially pass as Master's degrees in Europe), although I gladly concede your point that in terms of study and effort required, it's probably much closer if not equivalent to an American doctorate. And if I may follow your example and add a personal note, a friend of my wife's got her Master's degree from a local Finnish university and married a Bavarian man. When they moved to Munich, she found to her surprise that for the locals, she was not Frau So-und-So but Dr. So-und-So. (This happened over 15 years ago, so it was not only pre-Bologna but also pre-dated Finland's EU membership.)
 
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Limited hangout?

Honeypots?

Mockingbird asset?

Truthers so want it to be 1984 they've developed their own Newspeak. ;)

What are they on about?

I think it makes them think of themselves as part of the in-crowd. Hence their Dungeon and Dragons-speak (Left Gatekeeper, shill, disinfo agents etc...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

Within a few years perhaps they'll speak a completely impenetrable new Internet-grown patois that'll be completely distinct from the speech of normal people.
 
So has the spectre been raised of Wikileaks actually being in cahoots with the Americans ?

I guess it's possible. After all the leaks that the government itself lets drop are highly suspect. What better than to have an apparent enemy leaking instead on your secret behalf. The credibility factor is so much higher.

Except that all seems to have been dumped in favour of the short-term gain of heavily implicating Pakistan in anti-American activity. Action must be nigh.

Poor Julian may have been left out in the cold.

Or I could be completely wrong and wikileaks is the real McCoy.
 
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