Mental illness and 9/11

A few more years with the NWO and ill be able to earn my PTSD. The wait is hard though.
 
Fonebone said:
Au contraire
Show me where, in your comments above, you challenged the assertion
that PTSD is a "mental illness " made in the OP.


PTSD is a nervous affliction that is earned - NOT a "mental illness ".
Bic ?
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I don't challenge PTSD as a mental illness...it is. It doesn't mean that people with PTSD are "crazy" it doesn't mean they will always have PTSD. It doesn't mean there children will have it.

However, according to the DSM IV, it is. Now if you want to quibble about what you personally consider to be a "Mental Illness" versus what us clinicians consider, that is fine, you are entitled to your PERSONAL opinion. I am merely telling you what the current state of the disorder is.

TAM:)

edit: I am certain your issue is with the word "illness" as it is clear that PTSD is a mental "issue". For a Physician such as myself, an illness is any affliction that results in a state abnormal and/or negative change from the normal human status. example: a common cold, will be referred to as an illness by a doctor. So will Diabetes, So will a sinus infection. Now only one of these three diagnoses are considered CHRONIC and permanent diagnosis. The other two are short term, temporary, and are aquired infectiously. Yet we (clinicians) refer to them as illnesses.

TAM:)
 
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what does "Bic?" mean. I find no relevant reference for it on a google search.

TAM:)
 
Bic ? Mil-speak polyglot from the Viet Nam war

T.A.M. said:
what does "Bic?" mean. I find no relevant reference for it on a google search.

TAM:)
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Fonebone < Bic ? ( see below )
Originally Posted by carlitos
Fonebone, what does "Bic" mean? You never answered the last time I asked. Thanks.

Au Contraire Carlitos , I answered your question in post ---
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.p...72#post5362772
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Quote:
....The term "bic" is AmerAsian mil-speak for " Have I made myself perfectly clear ? "
or " Do you understand me ? " and the meanings both direct and implied were
completely understood by the citizens.
" Bic ? " in the South-east Asian polyglot is roughly equal to an East German border
guard's use of the term " verstehen? " after completing his statement. --- Capito ?
---Comprendre ? ---hiểu không ?

A truth-teller finds the doors closed against him -Chinese maxim
I think at the time my words and writing disturbed you .
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BTW --I spell the word phonically- The correct spelling if such a word does exist in a dictionary
may be "bik" or "bick" or bique or even "bicque"--
 
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Fonebone said:
Fonebone < Bic ? ( see below )
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FB, your actions on this forum has given me some thought about your personality. You seem to be locked in a world where it's only you in it. You seem to lack social skills with other people. You feel like an outcast, of sorts. You fear that the world is against you, but you fail to realize that the world is trying to help you. You also feel that you're not being helped with your condition, which isn't true at all. I feel like you've had a troubled childhood & you're trying to express or vent your anger towards those who want to help. You feel that you must push away those who are helping you.
 
Fonebone said:
Fonebone < Bic ? ( see below )


BTW --I spell the word phonically- The correct spelling if such a word does exist in a dictionary
may be "bik" or "bick" or bique or even "bicque"--
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Thank you for the info.

Concerning my other response to you, are we on the same page that your disagreement is with the terminology "illness"? Have I made it clear, and understandable why I refer to it as an illness?

Thanks

TAM:)
 
T.A.M. said:
Thank you for the info.

Concerning my other response to you, are we on the same page that your disagreement is with the terminology "illness"? Have I made it clear, and understandable why I refer to it as an illness?

Thanks

TAM:)
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Have a look at the attached video TAM. Do you think the behaviour of most of the monkeys is normal or abnormal ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...www.911blogger.com/&hl=en&v=KZeiSKnhOBc&gl=US 5 monkeys

Given that Truthers will mostly metaphorically ' go for the banana ' and push the envelope does that mean that they have a mental illness ?
 
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I haven't tried to solve one of these in a while, but here we go.

Fonebone < Bic ? ( see below )

I'm going to go with decimal ASCII codes.

F = 70
o = 111
n = 110
e = 101
b = 98
o = 111
n = 110
e = 101

B = 66
i = 105
c = 99

s = 115
e = 101
e = 101

b = 98
e = 101
l = 108
o = 111
w = 119

So, if I sum these up, I get

812 < 270 ? (317 + 537)

812 < 270 ? (854)

812 < 270 / 854
812 < 0.316 False

812 < 270 * 854
812 < 230580 True

812 < 270 + 854
812 < 1124 True

812 < 270 - 854
812 < -584 False

So, it works if you replace the question mark with either the + sign, or division.
 
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Welcome to the Truther Zone!

Narrator: There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Truther Zone.

Narrator: You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead - your next stop, the Twilight Zone!

Imagine, if you will, that every Truther was like John Valentine:

John Valentine: There's a man on the wing of this plane!

John Valentine: There was somebody out there. You gotta believe me!

Old Woman: I saw him. Green and slimy.

Old Man: Leave the poor man alone.

Old Woman: I'm only trying to help. You've got to humor them.

John Valentine: It was lightning. At first I thought it was animal. Some kind of bird or something. But it was a man! There were flames coming out of the engine, and a flash of smoke. Maybe it was a technician who was caught on the side of the plane when it took off. How could he survive out there? The air's so thin, the blast of the wind. It's so cold.

John Valentine: It's impossible, isn't it? Oh my god, I feel so stupid!

John Valentine: Can you imagine? A naked man crawling along the wing of an airplane at 35,000 feet?

Every Truther dreads these words: Oh my god, I feel so stupid!
 
The Charnel Expanse said:
If such claims originate from low-level truthers then I'm inclined to agree. But I think many of them are just conditioned to believe that because the more prominent ones like Alex Jones [the ones who cynically use the movement as a cash cow] are yelling in their ears that it's integral to "understanding the conspiracy" and whatnot.

Maybe I'm being pollyanna-ish about this, but I think most truthers can be reformed if they're exposed to the right facts and people.
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I think most truthers can join reality with knowledge.
The 911 truth leaders may be insane or out for the money, fooling others to donate money so they can travel and spread lies.

Most truthers will fade from the internet, drop their avatars, gaining knowledge; learn not to be scammed next time for more money, property or their lives if they are fooled by the next "kool-aid" party nut-case leader of woo.

Wish my worse scammed moment, gullible time, or lack of knowledge event was being in 911 truth...
 
I wonder how many Truthers came to their senses and realised the paranoia laced Truther scene is all based on ignorance and lies?
 
bill smith said:
Have a look at the attached video TAM. Do you think the behaviour of most of the monkeys is normal or abnormal ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...www.911blogger.com/&hl=en&v=KZeiSKnhOBc&gl=US 5 monkeys

Given that Truthers will mostly metaphorically ' go for the banana ' and push the envelope does that mean that they have a mental illness ?
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Yes, yes I know of the "5 Monkeys" experiment.

1. Men are not monkeys. While I believe monkeys are capable of thoughts, emotions, etc...I think they lack adult human insight, rationality, and logic.

2. I think a new monkey, who does not know the punishment for reaching for the banana, does what is expected...goes for the banana...because he does not have the intellect, rationality, logic, or insight to examine the situation first.

a sane, logical person with insight, upon entering a room with 4 OTHER people, would look up at the bananas, and think...

"Hmmm, why do those bananas continue to hang there untouched, while 4 of my human friends continue to sit around hungry. I should ask them why they leave the bananas hanging.".

3. Go back to first line of #1.

TAM:)
 
T.A.M. said:
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a sane, logical person with insight, upon entering a room with 4 OTHER people, would look up at the bananas, and think...

"Hmmm, why do those bananas continue to hang there untouched, while 4 of my human friends continue to sit around hungry. I should ask them why they leave the bananas hanging.".
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Actually, I'd go for the banana! If seen it too often that people are too sheepish to act to improve their conditions when they are in a group. Two stories to highlight what I mean, one from own experience, one from a radio call-in.


1.) I live in a land with moderate climate and few A/C'd buildings. But I studied in the Deep South (University of Georgia) for 2 years. In summer, I would sometimes enter a room where all students were sitting in shorts and t-shirts, legs folded on top of each other, arms wrapped around their bodies, bitterly freezing because A/C was set to lowest possible. It only took someone with a pen to move a little lever on the side of the box next to the door to set the A/C to more bearable temps. Why did 30 people in a room not improve their condition, and why did I, #31, do it? Because I could. And no one ever punished me for it. My theory is that Southerners are so used to cool A/C everywhere, and at the same time so respectful of public property, that they would not question the sensibility of the existing A/C settings and/or would never dare touching it. Whereas I always felt uncomfortable in a fridge, like my environment pleasant, and do question uncomfortable conditions. Plus, I understand that public property ought to serve its users, not vice versa.

2.) A radio show solicited callers to relate family traditions. One young lady had this story: When she went to university and started cooking for herself, she puzzled her roommates when she cut off the ends of sausages ("Bratwürste") before frying them in a pan. Asked, why she did that, she explained her mother had always done it, so she thought that was ho its done. Puzzled herself now, she later called her mum, why she did it, and sure enough, mom had learned it from grandma. So she called grandma, who in turn had adopted the habit from great-grandma. Great-grandma was still alive and fending for herself. next weekend, as the family sat together, daughert, mother and grandmother asked great-granny: Why do we cut the ends of our Bratwürste? And great-granny replied: "What? You still do that? Don't you have larger pans by now??"

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Oystein said:
Actually, I'd go for the banana! If seen it too often that people are too sheepish to act to improve their conditions when they are in a group. Two stories to highlight what I mean, one from own experience, one from a radio call-in.


1.) I live in a land with moderate climate and few A/C'd buildings. But I studied in the Deep South (University of Georgia) for 2 years. In summer, I would sometimes enter a room where all students were sitting in shorts and t-shirts, legs folded on top of each other, arms wrapped around their bodies, bitterly freezing because A/C was set to lowest possible. It only took someone with a pen to move a little lever on the side of the box next to the door to set the A/C to more bearable temps. Why did 30 people in a room not improve their condition, and why did I, #31, do it? Because I could. And no one ever punished me for it. My theory is that Southerners are so used to cool A/C everywhere, and at the same time so respectful of public property, that they would not question the sensibility of the existing A/C settings and/or would never dare touching it. Whereas I always felt uncomfortable in a fridge, like my environment pleasant, and do question uncomfortable conditions. Plus, I understand that public property ought to serve its users, not vice versa.

2.) A radio show solicited callers to relate family traditions. One young lady had this story: When she went to university and started cooking for herself, she puzzled her roommates when she cut off the ends of sausages ("Bratwürste") before frying them in a pan. Asked, why she did that, she explained her mother had always done it, so she thought that was ho its done. Puzzled herself now, she later called her mum, why she did it, and sure enough, mom had learned it from grandma. So she called grandma, who in turn had adopted the habit from great-grandma. Great-grandma was still alive and fending for herself. next weekend, as the family sat together, daughert, mother and grandmother asked great-granny: Why do we cut the ends of our Bratwürste? And great-granny replied: "What? You still do that? Don't you have larger pans by now??"

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So you are the non-deadhead monkey who still believes that WTC7 was not a controlled demolition.
 
I remember when he came here, Dictator Cheney was a truther, now he is not. It stands to reason that if one can change, they all can, be it from reasoning or medication :-D
 
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