The Official JREF Lone Nut Challenge

Marquis de Carabas said:
Ah, 1750, that glorious time on the planet Earth when there were neither lone nuts nor internet morons.
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I'll make it easier for you. Can you find a lone nut before John Bellingham, the first confirmed lone nut?
 
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Ok, let's focus people. Of the dozens of assassinations among the Roman Emporers, were any done by a lone nut? What about the Popes? Come on, people.
 
You're a troll. Members know it, lurkers know it, DOGS know it. Why don't you just admit it?
 
TheRedWorm said:
You're a troll. Members know it, lurkers know it, DOGS know it. Why don't you just admit it?
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You can't find any lone nuts prior to John Bellingham in 1812. Lone muts just appear out of teh blue in 1812. You have been outsmarted by a Truther. How does it feel? It feels real good to me.
 
Galileo said:
No, I am not a troll. I am an intellectual seeking the truth. I was hoping for companionship here.
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Well, first you tried the truther BS, now onto the conspiracy BS, what's next? In any case, if you were an intellectual, rather than lying or mentally ill, I suggest you re-read (for comprehension, this time) all the posts dealing with the failings of your methodology.

To save you some time, if you are feeling lazy, they boil down to:

1) If you redefine what certain words and phrases mean, your "challenge" is nearly impossible to meet, IOW: designed to never be fulfilled. (See Kent Hovinds "prove evolution" "challenge")

2) You do not account for the invention of firearms.
 
TheRedWorm said:
Well, first you tried the truther BS, now onto the conspiracy BS, what's next? In any case, if you were an intellectual, rather than lying or mentally ill, I suggest you re-read (for comprehension, this time) all the posts dealing with the failings of your methodology.

To save you some time, if you are feeling lazy, they boil down to:

1) If you redefine what certain words and phrases mean, your "challenge" is nearly impossible to meet, IOW: designed to never be fulfilled. (See Kent Hovinds "prove evolution" "challenge")

2) You do not account for the invention of firearms.
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Firearms makes it more difficult for a loan nut. With firearms, security is armed. They can keep lone nuts away or shoot them down, if they see one.

Plus, I included assassination attempts. So crazy people that fail with a knife are counted.

Also, they did not have mental health professionals before 1750, so more people would have been crazy.

You just make false assumptions. You are just upset that your world-view has been turned upside down.

:o
 
TheRedWorm said:
Well, first you tried the truther BS, now onto the conspiracy BS, what's next? In any case, if you were an intellectual, rather than lying or mentally ill, I suggest you re-read (for comprehension, this time) all the posts dealing with the failings of your methodology.

To save you some time, if you are feeling lazy, they boil down to:

1) If you redefine what certain words and phrases mean, your "challenge" is nearly impossible to meet, IOW: designed to never be fulfilled. (See Kent Hovinds "prove evolution" "challenge")

2) You do not account for the invention of firearms.
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I also have a higher post count than you do, newcomer.

:covereyes
 
Galileo said:
Firearms makes it more difficult for a loan nut. With firearms, security is armed. They can keep lone nuts away or shoot them down, if they see one.
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You failed to comprehend what the firearm statement meant. As I said, go back and re-read the thread. All valid points that you either ignored, dodged, or trolled.
 
TheRedWorm said:
You failed to comprehend what the firearm statement meant. As I said, go back and re-read the thread. All valid points that you either ignored, dodged, or trolled.
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You are just making excuses. If there are dozens of lone nuts in the 20th century, there should be thousands of lone nuts with knives in the Middle Ages or the ancient world. Ever thought that if a lone nut has a knife, he might make a crazy charge at his target?

Someone here documented a shooting in 1570. So where are the lone nuts with guns between 1570 and 1812?

Sorry, your gig is up. The lone nut theory is a pile. Archie Debunkers just need a crutch to prop up government corruption.

You are the real troll. I'm actually trying to learn the truth. I actually learned about an interesting shooting by James Hamilton. That was interesting history and I thank the poster for that. Your belligerant tone reflects upon the futilty of your cause. You are lone crusader for an improbable notion.
 
Galileo said:
Also, they did not have mental health professionals before 1750, so more people would have been crazy.
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That is just not true.

In 1750, there are estimated to have been 791 million people in the world. Today, there are 6.8 billion. That's 8.6 people today for every 1 in 1750.

And mental illness rates are actually increasing. Reports of symptoms that fit the definition of schizophrenia are rare before 1800. The first reliable case study of a schizophrenic wasn't published until 1797.

And schizophrenia rates worldwide are higher in urban areas than rural. Guess what there were a lot less of in 1750. Did you say urban areas? Well, that's the first thing you've gotten right all day.
 
Galileo said:
You are just making excuses. If there are dozens of lone nuts in the 20th century, there should be thousands of lone nuts with knives in the Middle Ages or the ancient world. Ever thought that if a lone nut has a knife, he might make a crazy charge at his target?
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...you ignored what others have said about the populaces' accessibility to monarchs. Plus your definition of lone nut is unrealistically restrictive.

Galileo said:
Someone here documented a shooting in 1570. So where are the lone nuts with guns between 1570 and 1812?
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And did the shooter qualify as a lone nut?


Galileo said:
Sorry, your gig is up. The lone nut theory is a pile. Archie Debunkers just need a crutch to prop up government corruption.
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I don't suppose that you have any positive evidence that every 'lone nut' after 1750 is a patsy or whatever, do you? It's easy to make claims, and to set the game so that even if are shown to be wrong you can just ignore what others have written, or hand-wave it away, but it is difficult to back your claims. Same thing with truthers, really.

Galileo said:
You are the real troll. I'm actually trying to learn the truth. I actually learned about an interesting shooting by James Hamilton. That was interesting history and I thank the poster for that. Your belligerant tone reflects upon the futilty of your cause. You are lone crusader for an improbable notion.
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And your notion is? What exactly? What do you hope to learn the truth about? How about this, instead of making a challenge thread, making it appear that you are trolling for kicks, start a thread asking a question you don't think you already know the answer to.
 
My first thought was Pausanias of Orestis' assassination of Phillip of Makedon.

A better one would be the attempted assassination of Hugh II of Jaffa by a Breton knight in 1134. The knight claimed to be acting alone even under torture. Hugh never fully recovered from the attack.
 
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