The Tea Party is Not Racist

[Juniversal]

No, but I sort doubt it contained anything to explain away her statements as anything but what it appears to be because she's already resigned:

http://biggovernment.com/publius/20...-who-withheld-help-from-white-farmer-resigns/

Is the NAACP gonna be the new right wing whipping boy?? ACORN be damned. You do know she isn't a member of the NAACP right? Nor did I actually get to hear the full story? This is just a weak attempt to defame the NAACP by weak association.

I think this blog has a good examination of the story:

I sure would like to see the full video before I make up my mind on this... According to the cues in her timeline, this incident occurred in 1986--the year chapter 12 bankruptcy was extended to family farms--and it sure seems to me like she's about to say how wrong she was to have that attitude, back then. ("It's not about black and white... Well it is, a little, but..." CHOP// End of tape.)

What she did to that farmer was undoutedly wrong, but I believe people can and do change, and I'd like to know the whole story before making up my mind as to what I think about the incident. (Besides, I wouldn't trust Breitbart--and especially a Breitbart video--if he was the last man on Earth. I'd count my teeth, fingers and toes after being in the same room with him.)

I certainly feel the story would've ended with her change of heart because she does say "It was revealed to me that, ya'll, It's about poor versus those who have". I doubt we'll be seeing the full video from Breitbart though. What does he have to hide??

 

[Juniversal]

Where's the full video? Quote mining is never a polite thing to do.

 

[BeAChooser]

You do know she isn't a member of the NAACP right?

Just curious. Do you have some proof of that?

 

[Juniversal]

Just curious. Do you have some proof of that?

I have no proof that she's not an applied member (which would likely only amount to event invitations and news letters). But she certainly isn't an employee or an executive IF she is involved deeply with the organization at all.

 

[bynmdsue]

It's not whether she is a member but that she is speaking to members

"Sherrod’s racist tale is received by the NAACP audience with nodding approval and murmurs of recognition and agreement. Hardly the behavior of the group now holding itself up as the supreme judge of another groups’ racial tolerance."

Maybe what's cut off is a Sister Souljah moment where someone stands up and refudiates her.

 

[Ladewig]

A voter is a Democrat: not a Democratic; a Republican: not a Republic; or votes for some third party.

Yes, a voter is a Democrat. The noun is Democrat; the adjective is Democratic. When modifying the word "party" an adjective is required - thus, the Democratic Party. The same logic leads to "the Democratic National Committee."

Should such convention actually exist, I wouldn't ignore it. It doesn't.

You claim that there is no convention supporting the use of Democratic Party even though the party has referred to itself as the Democratic Party since its modern inception. Newspaper articles for the past 150 years have consistently and unfailingly referred to the party as the Democratic Party.

This form shows up in
-- quotes from famous Republicans
T. Roosevelt. Milwaukee Oct. 14, 1912. "I merely want to discuss the difference of policy between the Progressive and the Democratic party."
R. Reagan. 1962 "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me."

-- Supreme Court decisions
CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY V. JONES (99-401) 530 U.S. 567 (2000)

-- and even the AP Stylebook
"Capitalize political parties, e.g. Democratic Party"

 

[Juniversal]

It's not whether she is a member but that she is speaking to members

"Sherrod’s racist tale is received by the NAACP audience with nodding approval and murmurs of recognition and agreement. Hardly the behavior of the group now holding itself up as the supreme judge of another groups’ racial tolerance."

The nodding and approval was directed at her reaction to the farmers supposed condescending behavior. Honestly I would've laughed when she said "I was trying to decide just how much help I was going to give him" regardless if you consider her behavior immoral or not. And what's much more disturbing to me then the few chuckles heard is the fact the story is cut laughably short. I want to hear the full story. How bout you?

Maybe what's cut off is a Sister Souljah moment where someone stands up and refudiates her.

Or maybe the rest of her story.

 

[332nd]

No, but I sort doubt it contained anything to explain away her statements as anything but what it appears to be because she's already resigned:

http://biggovernment.com/publius/20...-who-withheld-help-from-white-farmer-resigns/

I see, you want "skepticism" applied to the situation and those involved without having all of the information.

 

[cienaños]

Though I don't doubt that this guy, as well as many other Tea Partiers are racist, the term "coloreds" is a remnant of bygone days, but a name that many blacks still attach to themselves. What does NAACP stand for?

Usually I read on to get a grasp on the trajectory of these things, but in this case... REALLY?

Really, Tricky?

UNLESS YOU ARE BLACK YOU CANNOT UTTER THE WORD. PERIOD.

Unless you are amongst friends behind closed doors of course where the coloreds can't hear you.

 

[Accidental Martyr]

No, but I sort doubt it contained anything to explain away her statements as anything but what it appears to be because she's already resigned:

Well, I guess that's all the proof we need.

 

[quarky]

Usually I read on to get a grasp on the trajectory of these things, but in this case... REALLY?

Really, Tricky?

UNLESS YOU ARE BLACK YOU CANNOT UTTER THE WORD. PERIOD.

Unless you are amongst friends behind closed doors of course where the coloreds can't hear you.

I think "jungle-bunny" and "spear-chucker" is still good to go.

 

[cienaños]

“How fortunate for leaders that men do not think.”


- Adolf Hitler

 

[applecorped]

What about women?

 

[Lurker]

Wow! Talk about a double standard.

Any comments? Any skepticism about the NAACP or Obama administration?

I can't view the videos but if the first one is as you describe, I hope that lady is fired ASAP.

 

[linusrichard]

Yes, a voter is a Democrat. The noun is Democrat; the adjective is Democratic. When modifying the word "party" an adjective is required - thus, the Democratic Party. The same logic leads to "the Democratic National Committee."

You claim that there is no convention supporting the use of Democratic Party even though the party has referred to itself as the Democratic Party since its modern inception. Newspaper articles for the past 150 years have consistently and unfailingly referred to the party as the Democratic Party.

This form shows up in
-- quotes from famous Republicans
T. Roosevelt. Milwaukee Oct. 14, 1912. "I merely want to discuss the difference of policy between the Progressive and the Democratic party."
R. Reagan. 1962 "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me."

-- Supreme Court decisions
CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY V. JONES (99-401) 530 U.S. 567 (2000)

-- and even the AP Stylebook
"Capitalize political parties, e.g. Democratic Party"

I find the practice of using "Democrat" as a modifier absolutely fascinating. If someone referred to a member of the Republican party as a Republicanian, I wouldn't assume he was a Republican-hater. I would figure he was unfamiliar with American politics, or maybe trying to be funny, or maybe a little slow. I might politely correct the mistake and move on. But when you hear "Democrat Party," you know you're dealing with a critic of the Democrats. Why is this such a reliable shibboleth for conservatives? I don't know!

It's one thing to have words like "Dummycrap" and "Rethuglican" and "Dhimmicrat" and "Repiglican," where you know why it's pejorative. "Democrat Party" is just weird. I don't think conservatives do themselves any favor when they insist on being demonstrably incorrect.

 

[linusrichard]

I can't view the videos but if the first one is as you describe, I hope that lady is fired ASAP.

I watched the first video. You may not be surprised to hear that Breitbart has distorted the content of it. But it is troubling.

One minor thing left out of the description was the racism she perceived against herself from the white farmer. Doesn't really change a lot, but it's interesting that it was left out of the description.

Another minor thing left out of the description is that she did help the white farmer. This isn't really great, because she says she didn't help him as much as she could have, but only as much as she had to. So that's still very troubling.

A major thing left out of the description is that the story is not a celebration nor merely a description of Sherrod's racial resentment, but a story of her struggle with it, and ultimately overcoming it. Now, I do tend to think that someone who has illegitimately treated someone differently based on race should lose her job if she still holds that position or a similar one when the story comes to light. And she did, so that's good. But I also think that there is a vast gulf of difference between a story about how I racially discriminated against someone in my job, and a story about how I racially discriminated against someone in my job and that led me to realize that what I was doing was wrong.

 

[BenBurch]

Apparatchiks like Breitbart often distort the content of video/audio knowing that the average reader will read no more than their dishonest summary.

 

[Upchurch]

Whatever floats your boat. In the singular "Democrat", not "Democratic" is here to stay; same for several "Democrats". Good luck getting "Republic" into the vernacular as a replacement for "Republican".

If you're going to play semantics, the actual name of the party is the Democratic Party. If you're going to go your route, you should at least say "Democrats' Party".

Or you be a , whatever.

 

[ZirconBlue]

I find the practice of using "Democrat" as a modifier absolutely fascinating. If someone referred to a member of the Republican party as a Republicanian, I wouldn't assume he was a Republican-hater. I would figure he was unfamiliar with American politics, or maybe trying to be funny, or maybe a little slow. I might politely correct the mistake and move on. But when you hear "Democrat Party," you know you're dealing with a critic of the Democrats. Why is this such a reliable shibboleth for conservatives? I don't know!

I think it's an attempt at disassociation. "Democrats" in their mind are just the guys from the opposing party. The enemy. Just like "liberals" or "progressives" or "socialists". From their perspective, those words all have lost any actual meaning, and are just epithets for the "bad guys". The "Democrat Party", therefore is just the party of the the enemy. Calling it the "Democratic Party" though, is a reminder of Democratic principles and Democracy in general.

 

[Upchurch]

I think it's an attempt at disassociation. "Democrats" in their mind are just the guys from the opposing party. The enemy. Just like "liberals" or "progressives" or "socialists". From their perspective, those words all have lost any actual meaning, and are just epithets for the "bad guys". The "Democrat Party", therefore is just the party of the the enemy. Calling it the "Democratic Party" though, is a reminder of Democratic principles and Democracy in general.

IMHO, there is also a childish element of intentionally mispronouncing names as a form of defilement. Similar to what some conservative talk show hosts do with Democratic politicians (or lefty with anyone conservative, for that matter).