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Apparently Dave Thomas and others debating Gage, Harrit etc on Coast to Coast?

ProfJoey223 said:
Gentlemen of JREF:

Symmetrical Collapse - - PLUS - - Free Fall Speed - - EQUALS - - Explosives. Period.

End of debate.
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Professor,
Welcome to the forum, and as a new truther we are looking forward to great things. It will take you a while to figure how this works. The forum has been going since 2006, and with over 100million viewings of posts. every subject has been discussed and are recycled on a 6 to 9 month cycle. The more we go on the less sensible discussion and the more it turns to name calling... which is good for truth as the arguments become more balanced.

There are lots of debunkers here who will argue with any statement, see below. Tony Szambotti has been pushing the idea that the towers fell at 2/3rd's freefall speed for some time in an effort to undermine the truth movement.

Tony Szamboti said:
You are simply wrong as Richard Gage does support my theory. If you think I am trying to undermine anything you are out in left field.

Watch this video and listen to what he says between 4:50 and 5:00 minute marks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txUaDtIbLow

2/3rds or 70% of freefall acceleration is near freefall. Your argument here is nonsensical.
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Yes, sadly, even Richard doesn't agree with the ae911truth web site when you get into detail, which is why we like to keep the truth to generalities. So it is true that 2/3 freefall acceleration is near freefalll, and equally true that 2/3 freefall speed is equi-distant from freefall acceleration and 1/3rd freefall acceleration.

We find that keeping the truth to vague generalities in these arguments give us plenty of leeway to draw many conclusions that prove controlled demolition.

Szamboti is also pushing tilt of 5 to 15 degrees. So I guess that means our equation is more like:

Symetrical collapse +/- 10~15% plus 2/3 freefall speed+/- 30% is equal to controlled demolition +/-100%

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Sword_Of_Truth said:
It would, except that I screwed it up.

That 170,000 isn't just one year. I misread the US Dept of Labor stats on engineers, it's actually the increase over a ten year period.

So the number of newly minted engineers in a year is only fourteen times bigger than Gages entire fan club rather than 140.

My bad. :(
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How did you work this out? Im not a maths wizz, unless you read it somewhere specific :D
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
It would, except that I screwed it up.

That 170,000 isn't just one year. I misread the US Dept of Labor stats on engineers, it's actually the increase over a ten year period.

So the number of newly minted engineers in a year is only fourteen times bigger than Gages entire fan club rather than 140.

My bad. :(
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Don't feel so bad. It is easy to manipulate truth in statistics.

A+E's from any country can sign the ae911truth petition. Pro-rating your number according to world population and adding architects in equal proportion means that each year over 140,000 A+E's from around the world will be added to the work force. And each year about 400 people sign the ae911truth petition, and maybe 100 of them are new graduates.

And once people sign the petition there name is there for ever, so in a very very long time there will be more people on the petition than off it.
 
Edx said:
How did you work this out? Im not a maths wizz, unless you read it somewhere specific :D
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Read the link.

US Labor Dept reports 1.7 million engineers in the US. With a projected 11% increase over ten years. That's roughly 17,000 per year.

17,000 divided by 1,200 (AE911T's approximate current membership) equals 14.1666~
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
Read the link.

US Labor Dept reports 1.7 million engineers in the US. With a projected 11% increase over ten years. That's roughly 17,000 per year.

17,000 divided by 1,200 (AE911T's approximate current membership) equals 14.1666~
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Thanks, Im really, really bad at maths :D
 
Ian Punnett a Disinformation Agent?

Even while Gage insisted I announce my team by July 12th (I announced Kim Johnson will be participating on our team, earlier than that), Gage has yet to announce his team, IF ANY.

The Above Top Secret people are thinking Coast-to-Coast weekend host Ian Punnett is "in on the conspiracy".

Seriously, you can't make this stuff up! :confused:

Cheers, Dave
currently near Devil's Kitchen, Wyoming, looking for velociraptors. (As possible team members?)
 
bill smith said:
Shhh....Best to let the readers decide about the odds of an utterly unique occurance in the recorded history of the planet Earth happening twice inside an hour .Especially when there are well-motivated high suspicions that the buildings were deliberately demolished.
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Um, how many other structures that are similar in construction are there in the world that were hit by aircraft traveling at ~500 MPH that instantly started fires over many floors, and did not have any firefighting efforts whatsoever?
 
DaveThomasNMSR said:
Even while Gage insisted I announce my team by July 12th (I announced Kim Johnson will be participating on our team, earlier than that), Gage has yet to announce his team, IF ANY.

The Above Top Secret people are thinking Coast-to-Coast weekend host Ian Punnett is "in on the conspiracy".

Seriously, you can't make this stuff up! :confused:

Cheers, Dave
currently near Devil's Kitchen, Wyoming, looking for velociraptors. (As possible team members?)
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To be fair, it was only one poster who made that comment. No one has replied to the thread since. Unless Trickoftheshade is your opponent, in which case you should show that to Ian and win the debate before it even begins.
 
I haven't read such nonsense since I stopped teaching.

The collapses WERE symmetrical. And free fall speed was obviously and blindingly conspicuously achieved for 2.25 seconds at WTC7. Ask Shayam Sunder.

EXPLOSIVES. PERIOD.

No debate, silly heads.

None.
 
ProfJoey223 said:
I haven't read such nonsense since I stopped teaching.
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Yes you have, you just can't recognize it.

The collapses WERE symmetrical.
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No they weren't. The damage patterns were highly asymmetrical. Some buildings were destroyed and others damaged beyond repair while others next door to these buildings emerged relatively unscathed.

And free fall speed was obviously and blindingly conspicuously achieved for 2.25 seconds at WTC7. Ask Shayam Sunder.
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WTC7 took more than sixteen seconds to collapse. If free-fall were achieved for 2.25 seconds, then the remainder of the collapse would have taken far slower to fill up the rest of the sixteen seconds.

Only in trutherverse is 300% of free-fall considered "free-fall". :p

EXPLOSIVES. PERIOD.
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Explosives would have been discovered by the bomb sniffing dogs as they were smuggled into the building. And even if they weren't, the siesmic signatures of explosives would have been detected.

But they weren't... the prescence of explosives in the WTC is physically impossible under the laws of this universe.

No debate, silly heads.

None.
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No... there isn't. There hasn't been since september 12th, 2001.
 
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