Who started both World Wars?

[upgrayedd]

It's amazing how 9/11 makes up excuses and "explanation" for his Nazi heroes while simultaneously demonizing the British. Even if he were right (and he isn't), he would sound entirely unreasonable.

I also noticed he didn't reply to your post, which says a lot in my book.

look, he started this thread as he has all others, under the guise that he's searching for the truth, and wants to understand a certain historical event.

Later he announced his true agenda to merely create propaganda in his war against the west. nobody should try to "educate" him any longer, he is merely trolling for quotes for his imminent blog. Which of course will contain many ellipses in them. quote mining as any troofer or holocaust denier does every day.

Neither group cares about facts, they merely care about showing you how they know everything. using as few sources as possible of course, and any source that refutes their position is hand waved away

 

[9/11-investigator]

Childish Avatar? is that the best you can do? It's the emblem of the Eagle Squadrons.

No surprises here. America including it's army one big Disneyland.

American Volunteers who flew with the RAF before 1941 then with the USAAF. I suppose that you wouldn't appreciate their sacrifices.

You got that right.

In your world view it would have been better to let the Germans hang on to the Netherlands. After all these years only their supporters would have been left alive.

If Britain had not declared war on the Germans they would never have been forced to enter The Netherlands in the first place. And Britain would possibly still have it's empire. And one look out of the window here (well not now with the Oranje festivities going on) makes me really doubt of I would not prefer the almost invisble rule by the Germans in the early fourties. But obviously an independent Holland is the best like we had for centuries. These scenes were unthinkable under the Nazis or in Old Holland before the Anglo imposed multicult started to rear its ugly face. 50% of the young Maroccans have a criminal past, the other half probaby was not caught. One third even has 5 events or more on his record. This is a desaster.

Sorry, forgot a quote from the Right Wing Tabloid Press. In fact the Daily mail, the newspaper that supported the Fascists and admired Hitler and his Goons before the war.

So what, even Churchill admired Hitler before the war, JFK even after the war. Sure, guilty by association. Usual smear tactics. Completely irrelevant remark. But that does not change the veracity of these messages at all, messages you can bring no objection against.

 

[Andy_Ross]

But that does not change the veracity of these messages at all, messages you can bring no objection against.

They are entitled to their opinion. I wouldn't have wanted to live in their Pre-War England.

As for the Empire. It would have broken up anyway, why would things have been different without the war? India was well on the way to independence, How would we have stopped it? France tried and depite their brutality they still had to give up Algeria.
It was certainly worth sacrificing to stop the Nazis from gaining their own world Empire.
I don't think I or anyone I know ever say 'Gosh I wish we still had an Empire' It only seems to be an issue for some of the older generations and some Right Wing loons.

 

[9/11-investigator]

look, he started this thread as he has all others, under the guise that he's searching for the truth, and wants to understand a certain historical event.

Any reason to doubt this. I mean, I could write this blog without discussing the subject with you.

Later he announced his true agenda to merely create propaganda in his war against the west. nobody should try to "educate" him any longer, he is merely trolling for quotes for his imminent blog. Which of course will contain many ellipses in them. quote mining as any troofer or holocaust denier does every day.

There is nothing wrong with propaganda if it is based in truth. I am going to use the historical truth to create propaganda to help hit the Anglo led West midship and replace it with something new.

What are you going to do about it?

 

[9/11-investigator]

They are entitled to their opinion. I wouldn't have wanted to live in their Pre-War England.

I believe you, there were no game boys around at the time.
But trust me, you certainly do not want to live in Britain of 2030 either.

As for the Empire. It would have broken up anyway, why would things have been different without the war? India was well on the way to independence, How would we have stopped it? France tried and depite their brutality they still had to give up Algeria.

Possibly, but it certainly would have been delayed a great deal.

It was certainly worth sacrificing to stop the Nazis from gaining their own world Empire. I don't think I or anyone I know ever say 'Gosh I wish we still had an Empire' It only seems to be an issue for some of the older generations and some Right Wing loons.

That the same BS that Anglos always try to sell to demonise Germany. Germany never aspired for a world empire, they detested the 'pickaninnies', as the 'great Churchill' himself used to call them. Germany wanted the Ukraine, Belorussia, the Baltics, that was about it. Totally wrong, I admit, but they aspired nothing of what the British in fact had. Typical Anglo hypocrisy. Nothing has changed between the British attitude of 1914 and the average British tourist in an Austrian mountain hotel, cheering for Argentina when they play Germany. In the core it is the Anglo inferiority complex of the 'huddled masses' towards Europe.

 

[dafydd]

Any reason to doubt this. I mean, I could write this blog without discussing the subject with you.



There is nothing wrong with propaganda if it is based in truth. I am going to use the historical truth to create propaganda to help hit the Anglo led West midship and replace it with something new.

What are you going to do about it?

Nothing,because nobody has ever heard of you and nobody ever will.You may get a few brain-dead nazis to agree with you,but that it's.Megalomania does seem to be a common factor among the master race.

 

[9/11-investigator]

IS your entire argument based on this one book?

No. I will go much further. But nevertheless his book will serve as the red thread. As such the book is a treasure trove. Buchanan does not mention the Jews at all. Unlike me. He stays away from the H-word. He does not touch Pearl Harbor other than in a conventional way.

And Buchanan has no youtube videos.

Buchanan is a sad old man. He has given up. He is a Spengler, he describes the 'Untergang des Abendlandes' (Death of the West). He is using his excellent erudition and clear way of thinking and writing to describe why it all went wrong. The opening sentence of his book is a statement of resignation:

All about us we can see clearly now that the West is passing away.

Buchanan is an American, I am a European. Buchanan is a man of the past. He does not understand the power of the internet, he in all earnest believes that muslims slammed these planes in the towers. Buchanan is a nice well-mannered conservative with a position to lose, I am a loose canon so to speak. It is true that the West is passing away... because America is passing away. The West is dead, Europe still has a chance.

 

[dafydd]

No. I will go much further. But nevertheless his book will serve as the red thread. As such the book is a treasure trove. Buchanan does not mention the Jews at all. Unlike me. He stays away from the H-word. He does not touch Pearl Harbor other than in a conventional way.

And Buchanan has no youtube videos.

Buchanan is a sad old man. He has given up. He is a Spengler, he describes the 'Untergang des Abendlandes' (Death of the West). He is using his excellent erudition and clear way of thinking and writing to decribe why it all went wrong. The opening sentence of his book is a statement of resignation:



Buchanan is an American, I am a European. Buchanan is a man of the past. He does not understand the power of the internet, he in all earnest believes that muslims slammed these planes in the towers. Buchanan is a nice well-mannered conservative with a position to lose, I am a loose canon so to speak. It is true that the West is passing away... because America is passing away. The West is dead, Europe still has a chance.

Unintentionally funny and pathetic.Europe has a chance if your ilk remain a tiny,tiny minority.

 

[SanityGap]

There is nothing wrong with propaganda if it is based in truth.

Oxymoron of the day.

I am going to use the historical truth to create propaganda to help hit the Anglo led West midship and replace it with something new.

Except you do not want to recognise historical truth. Instead you prefer made up quotes, a book written by an author who does zero research and a belief that a theory about 9/11 (that reads like a plot for a bad "B" movie) can change the world. Oh, and a pathological hatred of the British.

 

[dafydd]

No. I will go much further. But nevertheless his book will serve as the red thread. As such the book is a treasure trove. Buchanan does not mention the Jews at all. Unlike me. He stays away from the H-word. He does not touch Pearl Harbor other than in a conventional way.

And Buchanan has no youtube videos.

Buchanan is a sad old man. He has given up. He is a Spengler, he describes the 'Untergang des Abendlandes' (Death of the West). He is using his excellent erudition and clear way of thinking and writing to describe why it all went wrong. The opening sentence of his book is a statement of resignation:



Buchanan is an American, I am a European. Buchanan is a man of the past. He does not understand the power of the internet, he in all earnest believes that muslims slammed these planes in the towers. Buchanan is a nice well-mannered conservative with a position to lose, I am a loose canon so to speak. It is true that the West is passing away... because America is passing away. The West is dead, Europe still has a chance.

A familiar rant.
''I don't see much future for the Americans. It's a decayed country. And they have their racial problem, and the problem of social of social inequalities . . . Everything about the behavior of American society reveals that it's half Judaized, and the other half negrified. How can one expect a State like that to hold together - a country where everything is built on the dollar?''
Adolf Hitler
Remarks January 1942 recorded by Martin Bormann, published in Hitler's Table Talk (1953)

Remind me 911,just how long long did the racially pure and non-decadent Turd Reich last?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Gameboys? I don't have a Gameboy.
I suppose that was supposed to be some kind of ref to my supposed age.
You don't know how old I am. I have never owned or played a computer game.
I am old enough to have been a 'Cold War Warrior' in the Royal Navy and spent many a month in the late 70s and early 80s patrolling the Atlantic and the Med.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Nice cherry-picking nein/11. The fact that Germany didn't have foreign territories of any serious note doesn't appear in your calculations of wars. And might I ask when "Germany" came into being? and which country prior that gave us the idea of Prussian militarism?

 

[9/11-investigator]

Nice cherry-picking nein/11. The fact that Germany didn't have foreign territories of any serious note doesn't appear in your calculations of wars. And might I ask when "Germany" came into being? and which country prior that gave us the idea of Prussian militarism?

Gawdzilla comes up with an abstract -ism and wants to prove the point that, you see, Germany somehow was a militaristic monster.

But I gave him some facts, that are hurtfull for the Anglo case... Gawdzilla calls that 'cherry-picking'. He does not even attempt to refute the statements with facts. He does not know the facts and is too lazy to look them up to make a case. Sneering is easier. That is an accurate description of the Anglo: he is a walking sneer.

And then he comes with the hilarious 'defense': Germany did not have foreign territories! True, Britain had invaded about all 'vacant' territories in the world and hence had to fight the most wars.

It is this breathtaking hypocrisy and the corresponding lack of character what is so irritating about the Anglos.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Except you do not want to recognise historical truth. Instead you prefer made up quotes, a book written by an author who does zero research and a belief that a theory about 9/11 (that reads like a plot for a bad "B" movie) can change the world. Oh, and a pathological hatred of the British.

- Do you seriously want to suggest that I 'make up quotes'?
- How do you know that Buchanan does no research. His book has 75 pages of links to other works. He has been a columnist for years, meaning he had years to think and write.

Again, unfounded accusations.

 

[SanityGap]

- Do you seriously want to suggest that I 'make up quotes'?.

Where did I say that? You posted up a ream of "quotes" allegedly spoken by Churchill and failed to show that any of them had any veracity. My statment was accurate.

- - How do you know that Buchanan does no research. His book has 75 pages of links to other works. He has been a columnist for years, meaning he had years to think and write..

From http://www.nysun.com/arts/patrick-j-buchanans-know-nothing-history/79722/
"Mr. Buchanan's total reliance on the work of historians — there is no sign in this book that has opened a scholarly journal or delved into an archive — makes it a bit rich for him to claim that he is out to overturn some historians' consensus or conspiracy. "

From here http://www.newsweek.com/2008/06/14/a-war-worth-fighting.html

"But the rest of the kaiser's policy, most of it completely omitted by Buchanan, shows that Germany was looking for a chance for war all over the globe, and was increasingly the prisoner of a militaristic ruling caste at home. The kaiser picked a fight with Britain by backing the white Dutch Afrikaner rebels in South Africa and by butchering the Ovambo people of what is now Namibia. "

- Again, unfounded accusations.

You sure?

 

[9/11-investigator]

Where did I say that? You posted up a ream of "quotes" allegedly spoken by Churchill and failed to show that any of them had any veracity. My statment was accurate.

Ah, I thought you were talking about the Buchanan book, but I should have guessed that you referred to an older post with content I found on the internet, admittedly with quotes without source refs. Had they been there, I would given them to you.

From http://www.nysun.com/arts/patrick-j-buchanans-know-nothing-history/79722/
"Mr. Buchanan's total reliance on the work of historians — there is no sign in this book that has opened a scholarly journal or delved into an archive — makes it a bit rich for him to claim that he is out to overturn some historians' consensus or conspiracy. "

SanityGap supposes implicitly that the New York Sun contains the ultimate truth and nothing but the truth. I on the other hand, get suspicious once I hear the name New York...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Sun

The newspaper's president and editor-in-chief was Seth Lipsky, former editor of The Forward;

There you go! Read the wikipedia entry and it becomes obvious that the NYS is Jews first and Jews last. No wonder that Buchanan's book is deemed dangerous.

Shalom SanityGap!

 

[upgrayedd]

The newspaper's president and editor-in-chief was Seth Lipsky, former editor of The Forward;

There you go! Read the wikipedia entry and it becomes obvious that the NYS is Jews first and Jews last. No wonder that Buchanan's book is deemed dangerous.

Shalom SanityGap!

Since the joos did everything according to you nein/11, wouldn't one of your many blogs also be described as jews first, and jews last?

Are all your arguments, argument from incredulity or argument from ignorance?

 

[9/11-investigator]

Since the joos did everything according to you nein/11, wouldn't one of your many blogs also be described as jews first, and jews last?

So far I have only written one blog.
It is indeed about Jews who did 9/11.

Your point?

P.S. That nein/11 is indeed very funny, but it was invented a few posts earlier by Gawdzilla.
Give him credit for it will ya. You are not as original as you want us to think you are.

 

[dudalb]

Oxymoron of the day.


Except you do not want to recognise historical truth. Instead you prefer made up quotes, a book written by an author who does zero research and a belief that a theory about 9/11 (that reads like a plot for a bad "B" movie) can change the world. Oh, and a pathological hatred of the British Anyone who is not a 100% Nordic Aryan.

Fixed that for you.

 

[SanityGap]

SanityGap supposes implicitly that the New York Sun contains the ultimate truth and nothing but the truth. I on the other hand, get suspicious once I hear the name New York...!

A bit rich for someone who hangs on Buchanan's every word.

The newspaper's president and editor-in-chief was Seth Lipsky, former editor of The Forward;
...!

"Mr. Lipsky served in the U.S. Armed Forces and wrote for Stars and Stripes while in Vietnam." Yup, seems pretty un-American to me.

There you go! Read the wikipedia entry and it becomes obvious that the NYS is Jews first and Jews last. No wonder that Buchanan's book is deemed dangerous.

Shalom SanityGap!

From your Wikipedia link
"The New York Sun was well known for its learned and serious arts coverage, "

Or is Wikipedia a Jewish mouthpiece as well?

Nice ignore on the newsweek quote BTW