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Apparently Dave Thomas and others debating Gage, Harrit etc on Coast to Coast?

bill smith said:
If the pool of molten steel was large enough then it would stay molten for months. Steel cools from the putside in in little flecks on the surface that slowly join up to create a skin. I guess that the pool was 10-15,000 tons in weight after approximately one third of the core columns had been melted and drained down into the basement.
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lol...OMG, please tell me you are not trying to tell us that a full 33% of the entire Column steel was melted into a pool of liquid steel.

Really? Really?

Oh thank god you are back BS, the place was becoming rather dull.

TAM:D
 
T.A.M. said:
lol...OMG, please tell me you are not trying to tell us that a full 33% of the entire Column steel was melted into a pool of liquid steel.

Really? Really?

Oh thank god you are back BS, the place was becoming rather dull.



TAM:D
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Did you check post 147 TAM ?
 
bill smith said:
Did I see that Dave Thomas is a former Truther on that forum ? Were you ?
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huh?

Dave Thomas has not posted to that forum, stundie is quoting a post Dave made here. I am Edx there as well and I was the one who said I am a former truther.

I am both amazed you read that far and amazed you still understood everything so badly.
 
T.A.M. said:
No, what you do is the following,

1. Cherry pick selected quotes or bits of articles that SEEM to prove or support your case.
2. You rely on the LACK OF KNOWLEDGE that your "readers" possess to insure they do not do the proper research on your crap to reveal it as that...CRAP.

Come on, at least be honest.

TAM:)
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Removed breach of Rule 12. Stop it.
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Edx said:
huh?

Dave Thomas has not posted to that forum, stundie is quoting a post Dave made here. I am Edx there as well and I was the one who said I am a former truther.

I am both amazed you read that far and amazed you still understood everything so badly.
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I just had a quick scan and thought that either he or someone else had mentioned that he is a former Truther.
 
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Dave, you might find this presentation that Gage gave at Sonoma State in 2007 interesting. Gage shows much more willingness to speculate about things. For example, about 29:40 he claims that insurance companies raised their premiums 2000 percent after the terrorist attacks, implying that this was the reason they paid out their claims on the 9-11 insurance.

I review financial statements on commercial properties routinely and the idea of a 21-fold increase in insurance costs was risible. In fact, I was able to find out that even in New York City itself, the premium rises were about 70% on "trophy" properties that might be considered prime terrorist targets, and even on those projects the premium cost had pretty much declined back to pre-9/11 levels by 2006.

Gage also uses Sofia Shafquat's 9/11 Mysteries for much of his "lecture". Sofia credits Holocaust Denier Eric Hufschmid for turning her on to 9-11 "Truth", and used to sell the Ernst Zundel Story on her website.

Obviously he's a little more polished than back then. Still selling the same old steaming pile, although he's tried to avoid the "theories".
 
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bill smith said:
Very interesting movie that. At around the 19:45 mark Richard Gage mentions that the investigation of WTC7 was put out to tender and 'a proposal was successfully negotiated with Applied Research Associates' but with the proviso that they not examine floors one through seven or floor 47. Can that be true ?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...79&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1# Gage 2007
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Given Box Boy's overall credibility, I seriously doubt that it's true.
 
jhunter1163 said:
Given Box Boy's overall credibility, I seriously doubt that it's true.
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His credibilty seems to run at about 90% at his presentations which is all that really matters when you think about it.. I can imagine that the perps and their associates might not see it the same way.
 
bill smith said:
Very interesting movie that. At around the 19:45 mark Richard Gage mentions that the investigation of WTC7 was put out to tender and 'a proposal was successfully negotiated with Applied Research Associates' but with the proviso that they not examine floors one through seven or floor 47. Can that be true ?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...79&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1# Gage 2007
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Like most of Gage's statements there is a hint of truth. What he doesn't cover is why they were only to focus on that area. They were tasked to help build the model from the floor 7 load transfer system up. They were hired simply to take up some of NIST's work load.
 
DGM said:
Like most of Gage's statements there is a hint of truth. What he doesn't cover is why they were only to focus on that area. They were tasked to help build the model from the floor 7 load transfer system up. They were hired simply to take up some of NIST's work load.
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Do you have any links to credible sites with detailled information on that ?
 
bill smith said:
Do you have any links to credible sites with detailled information on that ?
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Do you consider the NIST site to be credible?

Does it make any sense to you that NIST (who I presume you think is "in on it") to hire people and publish that they "can't look here". Come on Bill.
 
bill smith said:
His credibilty seems to run at about 90% at his presentations which is all that really matters when you think about it.
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That's because his presentations are all preaching to the choir. I've been on the political fringes before. And while we could get 100 people to show up at a meeting, and we'd pat each other and ourselves on the back, congratulating each other for the big turnout and what it meant for our impending victory, it would always be the same one hundred people who showed up. Just by the fact that Gage advertises his appearances with references to "9/11 truth" garantees that the audience is the same bunch of dumbasses who have been leaning this way for years or decades.

A couple years back, I went to a 9/11 twoof gathering addressed by Kevin "the Holocaust is a Myth" Barret at the invitation of one of my old contacts. And while the attendance easily broke the triple digit barrier, which is impressive for a twoof gathering, guess which 100 people it was who showed up?

bill smith said:
I can imagine that the perps and their associates might not see it the same way.
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Yes, "the perps" are very annoyed at people like Gage.

 
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bill smith said:
His credibilty seems to run at about 90% at his presentations which is all that really matters when you think about it.. I can imagine that the perps and their associates might not see it the same way.
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I think WTC7 went down almost silently. Or at least without the overt sounds of explosions. This is 100% consistent with my theory that many of the the hollow core columns were filled with nanothermite in it's purely incendiary form. There is another incarnation of nanothermite with added olymers that make it into a high explosive but I doubt that this form was used in the demolition of WTC7.

In the Twin Towers high explosives were used nearer the tops of the building and caused the flying steel we all saw. This was not true of the rest of the building and can be observed in any video. Im sure I have a suitable one if you need it.
 
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DGM said:
Do you consider the NIST site to be credible?

Does it make any sense to you that NIST (who I presume you think is "in on it") to hire people and publish that they "can't look here". Come on Bill.
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Can I have a link to the specific topic in the NIST site ? The readers may be watching to see if you have got it DGM.
 
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