Survival

[The Man]

Thanks.

No problem.

Do more sodium & water in cells make them bit delicate to get mutations, increased multiplications & suspicious to get brusted?

Why don’t you see if you can research those parameters and find any published data?

I think, hypooxia & partly metabolized glucose is related to increased lactic/carbolic acid or simply acidosis state?

Why don’t you see if you can research those speculations and see if they have any basis in the established medical literature?

Why don’t you start studying some basics, getting a medical education as other have suggested, so that you might gain something (other than just more baseless speculation) out of the research suggested above?

 

[Kumar]

No problem.



Why don’t you see if you can research those parameters and find any published data?



Why don’t you see if you can research those speculations and see if they have any basis in the established medical literature?

Why don’t you start studying some basics, getting a medical education as other have suggested, so that you might gain something (other than just more baseless speculation) out of the research suggested above?

Sorry but that is studying only.

 

[Kumar]

No I meant exactly what I said, “There are a lot of things that are clear about diabetes…”. Again that everything may not be entirely clear does not infer that nothing can be clear and some things are in fact quite clear as those are what define the particular condition.



No, it is clear that it is speculating. One can have some basis for their speculations though (or not). Again the basics are a good place to start to get your understanding, or you understanding clearly.

Mine things are not speculations but can be trying C+P.

Yes I know that is why I corrected what I said and mentioned what I misread for whatever reason.

I provided a link to the TNF inhibitor before and here is one for just the TNF (alpha), have at it.

I shall be interested to know more about this disease.

 

[Kumar]

Yes I know that is why I corrected what I said and mentioned what I misread for whatever reason.

I provided a link to the TNF inhibitor before and here is one for just the TNF (alpha), have at it.

I read site on TNFa. Primarily it appear that it is inflammatory disease. Btw, whether NSAIDs & steriods benefit in this disease?

 

[MRC_Hans]

I studied & discussed a lot about diabetes & I feel problem in type2 diabetics is excessive & continual insulin's exposure to target cells.

Let the above be a dire lesson to anybody trying to eduate Kumar! He came into the diabetes discussion a couple of years ago, with the above notion, and several knowledgeable people spent a couple of months trying to explain to him why it was wrong.

- And he hasn't budged at all.

Kumar is NOT here (or anywhere else, for that matter) to learn. Not at all. He has his preconceived notions, and he is only here for two things:

1) To try to fish snippets of information that can support his ideas (as he ignores the rest).

2) Kumar believes he has a Mission. He thinks he can stirr the knowledge and trigger scientists into new understandings. He is like someone collecting odd parts together and asking others to build some wonder machine from them.

Kumar is mildly entertaining, but he is a complete waste of time.

Hans

 

[dafydd]

Sorry but that is studying only.

That is how you get to know things.Try it yourself sometime.

 

[dafydd]

Mine things are not speculations but can be trying C+P.





I shall be interested to know more about this disease.

Study it.

 

[The Man]

Sorry but that is studying only.

So you will only not study? Studying is the first step, without that everything else you do is only speculation without any basis.

Mine things are not speculations but can be trying C+P.

Kid yourself as much as you want, but it is quite clear you are just speculating and apparently without any basis. What do you mean “trying C+P”?

I shall be interested to know more about this disease.

Well, do some studying. The information is out there.

I read site on TNFa. Primarily it appear that it is inflammatory disease.

Well the arthritis aspect appears to be due mainly to inflammation response, in which TNF plays a critical role.

Btw, whether NSAIDs & steriods benefit in this disease?

Study and tell me what you find in those regards.

 

[The Man]

Let the above be a dire lesson to anybody trying to eduate Kumar! He came into the diabetes discussion a couple of years ago, with the above notion, and several knowledgeable people spent a couple of months trying to explain to him why it was wrong.

- And he hasn't budged at all.

Kumar is NOT here (or anywhere else, for that matter) to learn. Not at all. He has his preconceived notions, and he is only here for two things:

1) To try to fish snippets of information that can support his ideas (as he ignores the rest).

2) Kumar believes he has a Mission. He thinks he can stirr the knowledge and trigger scientists into new understandings. He is like someone collecting odd parts together and asking others to build some wonder machine from them.

Kumar is mildly entertaining, but he is a complete waste of time.

Hans

Well Hans, this certainly seems to be the case, sad that it is.

 

[Mojo]

Kumar is NOT here (or anywhere else, for that matter) to learn. Not at all. He has his preconceived notions, and he is only here for two things:

1) To try to fish snippets of information that can support his ideas (as he ignores the rest).

2) Kumar believes he has a Mission. He thinks he can stirr the knowledge and trigger scientists into new understandings. He is like someone collecting odd parts together and asking others to build some wonder machine from them.

He's also here in the hope that at some point he'll get a thread in which nobody bothers to point out that he is wrong, so that he can say, elsewhere, that people here agree with him. I remember him doing this somewhere with respect to some science-related forum, I think.

 

[PixyMisa]

Let the above be a dire lesson to anybody trying to eduate Kumar! He came into the diabetes discussion a couple of years ago, with the above notion, and several knowledgeable people spent a couple of months trying to explain to him why it was wrong.

- And he hasn't budged at all.

Kumar is NOT here (or anywhere else, for that matter) to learn. Not at all. He has his preconceived notions, and he is only here for two things:

1) To try to fish snippets of information that can support his ideas (as he ignores the rest).

2) Kumar believes he has a Mission. He thinks he can stirr the knowledge and trigger scientists into new understandings. He is like someone collecting odd parts together and asking others to build some wonder machine from them.

Kumar is mildly entertaining, but he is a complete waste of time.

Sadly, I have come to agree with you. However, I have learned some new things on these threads, so I don't consider my time wasted - and others shouldn't either.

 

[Kumar]

Let the above be a dire lesson to anybody trying to eduate Kumar! He came into the diabetes discussion a couple of years ago, with the above notion, and several knowledgeable people spent a couple of months trying to explain to him why it was wrong.

- And he hasn't budged at all.

Kumar is NOT here (or anywhere else, for that matter) to learn. Not at all. He has his preconceived notions, and he is only here for two things:

1) To try to fish snippets of information that can support his ideas (as he ignores the rest).

2) Kumar believes he has a Mission. He thinks he can stirr the knowledge and trigger scientists into new understandings. He is like someone collecting odd parts together and asking others to build some wonder machine from them.

Kumar is mildly entertaining, but he is a complete waste of time.

Hans

Simply, I like different, dynamic understandings which can be near to absolute & final.

 

[Giggywig]

Simply, I like different, dynamic understandings which can be near to absolute & final.

What you like is your preconceived notion. If we told you it was absolute and final that you are wrong, you would not accept it.

 

[Kumar]

So you will only not study? Studying is the first step, without that everything else you do is only speculation without any basis.

Ok as you say.

Kid yourself as much as you want, but it is quite clear you are just speculating and apparently without any basis. What do you mean “trying C+P”?

Look quotes in my signature.

Well, do some studying. The information is out there.



Well the arthritis aspect appears to be due mainly to inflammation response, in which TNF plays a critical role.




Study and tell me what you find in those regards.

Yes I am studing. It is thought to be autoimmune(not perfectly) disease, linked to genetic mutations, increased turnover of skin, inflammatory cytokines etc. These are just routine talks. Let us try differently.
Is there any role of low stomach acidity in this disease?

 

[Kumar]

What you like is your preconceived notion. If we told you it was absolute and final that you are wrong, you would not accept it.

Are you taking back your words that nothing can be absolute & final?

 

[Giggywig]

Are you taking back your words that nothing can be absolute & final?

No, just adding "if" to the list of words you don't understand.

 

[PixyMisa]

Simply, I like different, dynamic understandings which can be near to absolute & final.

No, what you like is comforting nonsense. Everything you believe is wrong. That's unhealthy.

 

[PixyMisa]

Look quotes in my signature.

Your signature is incoherent.

Yes I am studing. It is thought to be autoimmune(not perfectly) disease, linked to genetic mutations, increased turnover of skin, inflammatory cytokines etc. These are just routine talks. Let us try differently.
Is there any role of low stomach acidity in this disease?

No, homeopathy does not work.

 

[The Man]

Ok as you say.



Look quotes in my signature.

OK, I will, thanks.


“Potentised Remedies”? Clearly demonstrating some of your speculations are baseless as far a any evidentiary standard of science goes.

Yes I am studing. It is thought to be autoimmune(not perfectly) disease, linked to genetic mutations, increased turnover of skin, inflammatory cytokines etc. These are just routine talks.

Not bad, but also not difficult. Picking up a few “linked” factoids and terms hardly constitutes studying.

Let us try differently.

Why? If you talk about something else then you are no longer talking about or studying the specific condition or subject. Have you gotten tired of studying already? Again studying is not just collecting a few “linked” factoids or terms, but understanding the terminology, methodology, history and directed course of the given subject. You have a long way to go.

Is there any role of low stomach acidity in this disease?

Again study that aspect and tell me what you find. I surmise that you will find no “role of low stomach acidity in this disease” that is not baselessly speculative.

 

[Naddig74]

FSM, It's like Groundhog Day in here...

I deliberately left this thread alone for a few days, to let the debate move on. Nuh uh.

I definitely see a shadow. Six more weeks of Kumar.