Survival

[Sledge]

Does it mean they still get & follow body signals & got effected by environment of body?

Didn't I just answer this question? They're totally dependent on the body they're in.

 

[PixyMisa]

I am not sure. But I am worried how they are independant without mind? You know, memory is a big problem here.

Again I ask, are you seriously telling us that you thought cancer cells had minds? Never mind cancer cells, cells generally?

Really?

 

[Kumar]

So contraception is killling, or it isn't? After all, cells will die prematurely if I do not use contraception, but other cells will never exist if I do. You can't have it both ways.

It may interfere in "survival of fittest" theory. Cells dying naturally is not a premature death.

No. The observer effect has nothing to do with existence.




The type of brain/mind capable of causing even a skeptic to acknowledge its existence.

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Cancer cells are either not an independant entity or should have controlling mechanism--somewhat brain/mind.

 

[Kumar]

Didn't I just answer this question? They're totally dependent on the body they're in.

Does it mean that inspite of cancerous their brain is our brain?

 

[Sledge]

CANCER DOESN'T HAVE A BRAIN. What part of that are you having trouble understanding?

 

[Kumar]

Again I ask, are you seriously telling us that you thought cancer cells had minds? Never mind cancer cells, cells generally?

Really?

For normal cells their mind should be our mind. But I am trying to know, if it is same for cancer cells. ??

 

[Hokulele]

It may interfere in "survival of fittest" theory. Cells dying naturally is not a premature death.

In what sense? Is using certain contraceptives "killing" or not? Is menstruation "killing" or not? Again, you cannot have it both ways. If causing the premature death of cancer cells is "killing", then menstruation is "killing" since it is preventable.

Cancer cells are either not an independant entity or should have controlling mechanism--somewhat brain/mind.

Things can have controlling mechanisms that are not brains. You are using a computer to post to this forum, no? The computer doesn't have a brain, and yet it is an "independent entity" that has a "controlling mechanism". If you choose to claim that a computer does have a brain or mind, you are commiting murder every time you update your BIOS.

 

[PixyMisa]

I do think.

No, you make excuses.

But some specific air

No. STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR NONSENSE.

 

[Kumar]

CANCER DOESN'T HAVE A BRAIN. What part of that are you having trouble understanding?

Then what is their controlling mechanism?

 

[Hokulele]

Does it mean that inspite of cancerous their brain is our brain?

Yes. And "killing" a cancer cell is as unethical as failing to take birth control is "killing" ova.

 

[PixyMisa]

For normal cells their mind should be our mind. But I am trying to know, if it is same for cancer cells. ??

Normal cells don't have minds. It is the same for cancer cells.

 

[PixyMisa]

Then what is their controlling mechanism?

There's just so much wrong with that question that I don't know where to start.

 

[Sledge]

Then what is their controlling mechanism?

It doesn't have one. That's pretty much why it's cancer.

 

[PixyMisa]

There can be difference in normal infections & epidemic infection. In later it can/should still be body-controlled but in later it may be germ controlled. Germs can be attracted or owerpower. We might definately be attracting many insects probably due to our bio-instabilities or bio-imbalances.

No.

 

[Hokulele]

Then what is their controlling mechanism?

There isn't one. That is why they are cancerous instead of normal.


ETA: Argh! Beaten to this one. Twice.

 

[Kumar]

In what sense? Is using certain contraceptives "killing" or not? Is menstruation "killing" or not? Again, you cannot have it both ways. If causing the premature death of cancer cells is "killing", then menstruation is "killing" since it is preventable.

No one is natural(menses death) other not(cancer killing).

Things can have controlling mechanisms that are not brains. You are using a computer to post to this forum, no? The computer doesn't have a brain, and yet it is an "independent entity" that has a "controlling mechanism". If you choose to claim that a computer does have a brain or mind, you are commiting murder every time you update your BIOS.

I mentioned that it is different that which type of brain/mind. Can't brain/mind be of many types?

 

[Taffer]

Can we kill?

Yes

 

[Taffer]

Killing and dying are seprate things. When cancer cells are dying it will be their natural death but why cancer treatments that will be killing.

Because if we can't fix the cancerous cells, we need to kill them.

Does it look not bit odd that cancer cells become independent but don't have mind?

No. Rocks are independent of other rocks, but they don't have minds. Computers are independent of other computers, but they don't have minds.

 

[Hokulele]

No one is natural(menses death) other not(cancer killing).

Why is a natural death more acceptable than an unnatural one? I find that mindset to be despicable. No death should be considered acceptable when it can easily be prevented. For me, the difference isn't natural/unnatural, but something based on sentience and species' kinships. Your pretense that "natural" is somehow better than "killing" is nonsense at best, certain death for many cancer patients at worst, which for me at least, is horribly inhumane.

I mentioned that it is different that which type of brain/mind. Can't brain/mind be of many types?

Sure. My dog has a brain that differs from mine. However, there is evidence that even I as a fully fledged skeptic can accept that her brain exists. There is no such evidence for individual cells.

 

[Taffer]

There can be difference in normal infections & epidemic infection. In later it can/should still be body-controlled but in later it may be germ controlled. Germs can be attracted or owerpower. We might definately be attracting many insects probably due to our bio-instabilities or bio-imbalances.

No.