Is Obama not stregthening border security on purpose?

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Senator: Obama Told Me He's Not Securing Border on Purpose



President Obama is refusing to secure the border until Congress reaches a breakthrough on comprehensive immigration reform, Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl said at a recent town hall meeting.

The No. 2 Senate Republican, in a video clip posted on YouTube showing the senator speaking to a local Tea Party crowd on Friday, said the president told him during a one-on-one meeting in the Oval Office that he was concerned he wouldn't win GOP support on immigration legislation if he took care of border security first.

"The problem is, he said, if we secure the border, then you all won't have any reason to support comprehensive immigration reform," Kyl said, as the crowd in the room gasped loudly. "In other words, they're holding it hostage."

The White House denied the claim on Monday. Spokesman Bill Burton and Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer both said Kyl "knows" Obama did not make that comment to him in their meeting.

"The president didn't say that and Senator Kyl knows it," Pfeiffer said in a written statement. "There are more resources dedicated toward border security today than ever before, but, as the president has made clear, truly securing the border will require a comprehensive solution to our broken immigration system."

Burton repeated the claim at the press briefing Monday afternoon.

But Kyl's office stood by the senator's account. Kyl spokesman Ryan Patmintra said, "There were two people in that meeting, and Dan Pfieffer was not one of them." He said Pfeiffer's call for comprehensive immigration legislation "only confirms" Kyl's story."


Is someone taking advantage of a he said/he said situation to score points? I hope so, because the alternative is depressing.
 
Didn't Obama just order an additional 1200 National Guard troops to the border?

It sounds like Sen. Kyl is looking for an explanation for something that isn't so.

But apparently it's popular in Arizona for politicians to claim that the federal government isn't enforcing immigration laws--a blatant falsehood.
 
The troops have yet to arrive I hear. Didn't he announce that a month ago?

Yes, it was announced not quite a month ago. The news stories I read says that Obama ordered them to be deployed. I don't know why they haven't actually deployed yet. (I assumed they had.)

I haven't seen anything about Obama blocking them or holding them up until comprehensive reform passes. I think he correctly said that extra troops is not the solution. Comprehensive reform is.

He also requested an additional $500 million to spend on border security. I haven't heard whether Congress went along with request. Did Kyl make any mention of this funding?
 
There's an easy way to resolve the he said/he said. Oval office discussions are taped, as Nixon came to regret. I wonder which one of them would balk at the release of the tapes of their discussion? If Kyl is lying, and it is on tape, I can see Obama scoring big points (and taking down someone who called him a liar) by releasing the tape of their conversation. Of course, he'd have to weigh that against the precedent of releasing the tapes merely to rebut a political attack and the effect that would have on increased calls for their release.
 
I just looked this up for another thread, but the meme coming out of Arizona that the U.S. government is not enforcing immigration laws is false. (I take Kyl's comments to be a version of this larger meme.)

In fact, in the most recent year for which the statistics are available (2008), enforcement is at record levels:

Reflecting the impact of heightened, strategic enforcement efforts, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) efforts reached record levels in virtually every enforcement category in fiscal year 2008, from criminal, gang and fugitive alien arrests to federal prosecutions and formal deportations. The significant increase is a direct result of ICE's expanded interior immigration enforcement strategy, focusing on three priorities - targeting criminal and fugitive aliens; eliminating the magnet of illegal employment; and dismantling the infrastructure that supports illegal immigration including the criminal organizations engaged in wide-spread identity theft and document fraud.
Linky.
 
Is Obama not stregthening border security on purpose?

Probably, just like W. before him. Neither party wants to lose the ever-growing Hispanic vote, which apparently likes illegal immigrants.

So they do what they're good at: lying, to placate you.
 
Didn't Obama just order an additional 1200 National Guard troops to the border?

... snip ...

But apparently it's popular in Arizona for politicians to claim that the federal government isn't enforcing immigration laws--a blatant falsehood.

But didn't Obama's administration stated that those 1200 would NOT be used to enforce immigration laws?
 
I just looked this up for another thread, but the meme coming out of Arizona that the U.S. government is not enforcing immigration laws is false. (I take Kyl's comments to be a version of this larger meme.)

In fact, in the most recent year for which the statistics are available (2008), enforcement is at record levels:


Linky.

Well, that settles it, provided Obama was the president in 2008. Errr.
 
Kyl confabulates a lot.
Evidence?

Yes, it was announced not quite a month ago. The news stories I read says that Obama ordered them to be deployed. I don't know why they haven't actually deployed yet. (I assumed they had.)
Maybe because it was just a publicity stunt? Obama told Gov. Brewer that he would get back to her within 2 weeks regarding the deployment of Nat. Guard. It's been over 2 weeks and no word.
 
Of course he's not strengthening border security on purpose. The democrats have a vested interest in the Hispanic vote, so they want to get a lot of illegal immigrants to become citizens for this purpose.
 
So why didn't Bush do it? Come on, he must have had a good reason completely different from Obama's right?

Right?

Guys?
 

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