Mossad agent arrested in Hamas assassination case

[Jekyll's Guest]

Really? Are you sure? I mean, lots of people in the US seemed to get awfully upset when we did it to the IRA in our own country. Or are there, like, two different sets of rules at work?

Ah but they were lovable scamp freedom fighters we were killing. How can you root for evil Brits against someone from the same country as your great-great-granddad? Better to give them a parade and help them raise money.

Arabs are just Wogs.


As awful as 9/11 was, far too many Americans (not all) went on like Terrorism had just been invented.

Terrorists targeting civilians you say? Ghastly! Hey, who's that shaking hands with Clinton in the St. Patrick's day reception? Why it's that old rogue Gerry Adams, the rascal!

 

[Thunder]

You have no idea what the word "ties" means in this context, don't you?

ties, connections, links, associations, etc etc etc.

im sure everyone in Germany had a friend, or neighbor, or relative, who was a member of the Nazi party.

that doesn't change the fact that at its height...the Nazis only had 8.5 million members.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

ties, connections, links, associations, etc etc etc.

im sure everyone in Germany had a friend, or neighbor, or relative, who was a member of the Nazi party.

And you knew that all along, didn't you?

Most citizens had ties to the Nazis? That's quite a claim. A lie too..if you ask me.

And you can apologize for accusing me of lying anytime.

 

[Thunder]

And you knew that all along, didn't you?

actually....no.

"ties" suggests a willing choice to have relations with the Nazi party, while not being an actual member.

having a neighbor or relative who is a Nazi, does not make one a Nazi or a criminal.

I have relatives who are right-wing Zionist extremists. Does that make me...a right-wing Zionist?

certainly not.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

"ties" suggests a willing choice to have relations with the Nazi party, while not being an actual member.

No it doesn't.

having a neighbor or relative who is a Nazi, does not make one a Nazi or a criminal.

Which goes back to the point I was trying to make to MaGZ when you launched this asinine derail.

I do not believe the extermination of all germans would have been appropriate even though the whole country had ties to the nazis. The same of course goes for Gaza.

But... if one is a walking talking link in a terrorist supply chain, then he's fair game.

 

[Thunder]

But... if one is a walking talking link in a terrorist supply chain, then he's fair game.

the people of Gaza are hostages in their own land. i have no doubt that if there was another election, just in Gaza, Hamas would be kicked out of power.

 

[a_unique_person]

No it doesn't.



Which goes back to the point I was trying to make to MaGZ when you launched this asinine derail.

I do not believe the extermination of all germans would have been appropriate even though the whole country had ties to the nazis. The same of course goes for Gaza.

But... if one is a walking talking link in a terrorist supply chain, then he's fair game.

The problem with that logic, is that it makes Israeli citizens legitimate targets for terrorists. Everyone in Israel has 'links' to the settlers and the IDF imposing the occupation.

 

[Thunder]

Good point. ALL Israelis have a link with the illegal settlers. ALL Israelis have a link with IDF soldiers.

Does this mean that ALL Israelis are now legitimate targets?

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

The problem with that logic, is that it makes Israeli citizens legitimate targets for terrorists. Everyone in Israel has 'links' to the settlers and the IDF imposing the occupation.

How the @#$% do you get from my statement that an entire population should not be genocided that by my logic an entire population can be genocided?

Is it opposites day on JREF or something?

Or does absolutely everything you read come out as "KILL ALL THE JEWS" to you?

 

[Thunder]

Or does absolutely everything you read come out as "KILL ALL THE JEWS" to you?

again, why do you buy into the racist argument that:

Zionist=Jew

Israeli=Jew

?????????

the folks who make these arguments tend to be Neo-Nazis.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

again, why do you buy into the racist argument that:

Zionist=Jew

Israeli=Jew

?????????

the folks who make these arguments tend to be Neo-Nazis.

We've been discussing Hamas, Parky. Killing all the jews is in their charter, have you read it?

 

[a_unique_person]

How the @#$% do you get from my statement that an entire population should not be genocided that by my logic an entire population can be genocided?

Is it opposites day on JREF or something?

Or does absolutely everything you read come out as "KILL ALL THE JEWS" to you?

You said that having 'links' makes you a valid target. That's a very vague term, and can be used to justify many things. I was making no comment at all on what I think, just examining your logic. For the record, I don't want to see any Jews killed, I want a just peace reached which will necessitate compromises by both sides.

 

[Mycroft]

You said that having 'links' makes you a valid target. That's a very vague term, and can be used to justify many things. I was making no comment at all on what I think, just examining your logic. For the record, I don't want to see any Jews killed, I want a just peace reached which will necessitate compromises by both sides.

No it doesn't.



Which goes back to the point I was trying to make to MaGZ when you launched this asinine derail.

I do not believe the extermination of all germans would have been appropriate even though the whole country had ties to the nazis. The same of course goes for Gaza.

But... if one is a walking talking link in a terrorist supply chain, then he's fair game.

Maybe the bolding will help.

Not gonna hold my breath though.

 

[bigjelmapro]

Wah? AUP and Parky don't have reading comprehension? That's news to me...

 

[Thunder]

Wah? AUP and Parky don't have reading comprehension? That's news to me...

useless and petty personal attacks are a sign of a lost debate...or being too lazy to debate.

or both.

 

[funk de fino]

A loaded question that proves. This is getting better by the moment.

Did they use their own passports? Were they false? Were they fake?

No. I said that their investigations base their evidence off of one.

Source? They say they did their own investigations.

Now present the evidence.

See above. Very ironic.

Never said this.

What were you trying to say then? "Real names bit, sure. Fake passports, still no."

Never made out the prove this. As I said, it was speculatory. You can continue to use this strawman until you're blue in the face.

You made up a tall tale. I thought you said you knew for a fact?

 

[Thunder]

Bigjel- do you think its ok for nations to use fraudulent passports to kill people in foreign countries without permission from the govt.?

 

[bigjelmapro]

Did they use their own passports? Were they false? Were they fake?

I don't get where you're going with this.

Source? They say they did their own investigations.

Irish didn't even conduct their own investigation, they simply followed suit of the British. The Aussies dispatched officers from various intelligence agencies to Israel several times, as did the British. Both parrot each other's claims with the same claims but no disclosed information actually linking Israel or Mossad to the operation.

Linked a few articles earlier.

What were you trying to say then? "Real names bit, sure. Fake passports, still no."

As I mentioned before in the other thread as to my only complaint about said operation, was the use of real names on a forged passport. Other than that, had no issue.

You made up a tall tale. I thought you said you knew for a fact?

Nope. You hope that this was my position. Still not blue in the face then eh?

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

You said that having 'links' makes you a valid target.

I said no such thing, liar.

For the record, I don't want to see any Jews killed, I want a just peace reached which will necessitate compromises by both sides.

By this reasoning, peace can be achieved by getting Hamas to agree to kill just half of all jews.

 

[Thunder]

Bigjel- do you think its ok for nations to use fraudulent passports to kill people in foreign countries without permission from the govt.?