The Improbable 9/11 and its followers

[T.A.M.]

Has anyone tried the LS dyna simulator and gotten WTC7 to collapse the way it did btw?

You mean anyone besides dem shills dat works da NIST?

Nah, clearly Deh wuz paid off, or threatened to lose der job...so deh became part of dah coverup.

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

Can you point me to a collapse due to fire that replicates the global collapse we witness on 9/11 since this is selfevident?

Can you point me to an example of a 110 storey skyscraper struck by a 767 jet aircraft at 500mph, that had the fireproofing removed from its steel, that didn't collapse after multistorey fires were allowed to burn for an hour, PRIOR TO 9/11?

Thanks in advance.

TAM

 

[Newtonian]

When it comes to the education bit, I graduated technical engineering in 2003 in Trondheim, Norway. Since then I have mostly worked with system controlling of buildings.
Everything from ventilation, temperature, engines etc etc. Its mostly maintenance of these systems through service agreements.

And when I went through technical engineering I built a 2 channel class A power music amplifier, and a electrical 48v trike and a anti-collision system for boats. I also made a PLS regulated moonshine aparatus. I also have the security clearance for and all the certificates for working EX class electronical maintenance on oil plattforms and the basic level of process chemistry controlling therein. I am also currently in semi-active military
duty as sergeant , the first response unit 1 month of training each year.

 

[Newtonian]

Historical evidence I have siffled through of the footage I have obtained from bomb attacks and subsequent fires in Iraq/afghanistan and WWII show nothing of the characteristics seen on 9/11.

 

[T.A.M.]

yah, Before I went into medicine, I completed a three year diploma in Electronic Engineering Technology.

I am equally as unqualified as you are to talk about the intricacies of building collapse. Welcome to the forum.

TAM

 

[newton3376]

Can you point me to a collapse due to fire that replicates the global collapse we witness on 9/11 since this is selfevident?

Yes....

A collapse that closely mirrors WTC 1 would be WTC 2....

A collapse that closely mirrors WTC 2 would be WTC 1.....

For more information see NIST's reports.

You are welcome BTW.

 

[T.A.M.]

Historical evidence I have siffled through of the footage I have obtained from bomb attacks and subsequent fires in Iraq/afghanistan and WWII show nothing of the characteristics seen on 9/11.

How much of that footage involved 767 jets striking Steel skyscrapers at 500mph?

TAM

 

[The Big Dog]

Problem is that math works both ways especially in terms of probability. It is improbable to believe someone planted explosives in the building unnoticed, atleast shape charges throughout the whole structure.

But I tend to stick on the empirical evidence , and when it comes to the towers and wtc7
the probability of fire causing such consistent failures never before seen is astronomically improbable. But if this should turn out to be true, it would be like
winning the lottery 100 times in a row and someone else by random chance was
buying the tickets for you.

But I ALSO tend to stick on the empirical evidence , and when it comes to the towers and wtc7 the probability of fire causing such consistent failures never before seen is astronomically probable.

Thanks for joining the site!

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Can you point me to a collapse due to fire that replicates the global collapse we witness on 9/11 since this is selfevident?

We don't need to. We know that fire weakens steel. We know that the WTC was made of steel. Ergo, we automatically know that fire bringing down the WTC is an established physical possibility, given a sufficiently large fire.

NEXT!

 

[beachnut]

When it comes to the education bit, I graduated technical engineering in 2003 in Trondheim, Norway. Since then I have mostly worked with system controlling of buildings.
Everything from ventilation, temperature, engines etc etc. Its mostly maintenance of these systems through service agreements.

And when I went through technical engineering I built a 2 channel class A power music amplifier, and a electrical 48v trike and a anti-collision system for boats. I also made a PLS regulated moonshine aparatus. I also have the security clearance for and all the certificates for working EX class electronical maintenance on oil plattforms and the basic level of process chemistry controlling therein. I am also currently in semi-active military
duty as sergeant , the first response unit 1 month of training each year.

Leslie Robertson built the WTC Towers with respect to the structural design. He understand the collapse more than anyone on earth; he thinks your ideas are Nonsense. He is the top expert! You are short about 8 years education and experience to call Leslie Robertson a liar, and would be wrong anyway.

You believe in failed delusions about 911; sad in pilot training there were two Norwegian pilots, it is sad you support lies, hearsay, and fantasy to diminish the high standards I set for Norwegians; you are damaging your nations credibility, very slightly; I suspect you are a in the fringe few in Norway.

It has been a while since I was at Bodo to deliver some SR-71 parts and a large start cart. Good luck with 911, you will need it along with some better research.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Lemme just point out that this is the first time in history argument we're talking about. I call this condition FTIH'op:

As a FTIH'opper:

• When something happens for the first time ever then it is impossible because it had never happened before.
• If it in any way, shape or form resembles something seen on TV as a couch potato, all the known research methods are automatically abandoned. The predetermined conclusion is FINAL
• Physical Evidence that does not support the FINAL predetermined conclusion is always assumed to be planted.
• All critics who disagree in any way, shape, or form with said FINAL predetermined conclusions are shills, sheeple, government planted psy-ops using chemtrails, or ignorant.
• ....

Okay I had my fun... I'm beyond bored by this first time in history. Newtonian, have you once considered looking up why steel is fireproofed in highrise buildings despite the safety record? Somehow I doubt you have, or that you will.

 

[Newtons Bit]

When it comes to the education bit, I graduated technical engineering in 2003 in Trondheim, Norway. Since then I have mostly worked with system controlling of buildings.
Everything from ventilation, temperature, engines etc etc. Its mostly maintenance of these systems through service agreements.

And when I went through technical engineering I built a 2 channel class A power music amplifier, and a electrical 48v trike and a anti-collision system for boats. I also made a PLS regulated moonshine aparatus. I also have the security clearance for and all the certificates for working EX class electronical maintenance on oil plattforms and the basic level of process chemistry controlling therein. I am also currently in semi-active military
duty as sergeant , the first response unit 1 month of training each year.

What's the largest piece of steel that you've specified?

 

[Newtonian]

Well, compare a boeing 767 to a missile or a bomb and you would find the similarities to be quite many But yet the collapses are never global and even similar to any of the towers.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Well, compare a boeing 767 to a missile or a bomb and you would find the similarities to be quite many But yet the collapses are never global and even similar to any of the towers.

Says who? I know of a couple that occurred about 9 years ago that were global.

 

[Newtonian]

Leslie Robertson built the WTC Towers with respect to the structural design. He understand the collapse more than anyone on earth; he thinks your ideas are Nonsense. He is the top expert! You are short about 8 years education and experience to call Leslie Robertson a liar, and would be wrong anyway.

You believe in failed delusions about 911; sad in pilot training there were two Norwegian pilots, it is sad you support lies, hearsay, and fantasy to diminish the high standards I set for Norwegians; you are damaging your nations credibility, very slightly; I suspect you are a in the fringe few in Norway.

It has been a while since I was at Bodo to deliver some SR-71 parts and a large start cart. Good luck with 911, you will need it along with some better research.

Well of course I know I`m out of my league here, and I have flown straight into the hornets nest

But it`s her at JREF I would get some answers by atleast some standard

I have not extensively researched 9/11 , but the manner of how the buildings fell still puzzles me.

Did you meet Oskar in bodø ? the head of the air trafic controllers there? He is also from Trondheim just btw.

 

[BigAl]

Well, compare a boeing 767 to a missile or a bomb and you would find the similarities to be quite many But yet the collapses are never global and even similar to any of the towers.

Bombs and missiles go "boom"

At WTC there was no "boom" that looked and sounded like any man-made explosive demolition. At best, it was "boom"

 

[Newtonian]

Lemme just point out that this is the first time in history argument we're talking about. I call this condition FTIH'op:

As a FTIH'opper:

• When something happens for the first time ever then it is impossible because it had never happened before.
• If it in any way, shape or form resembles something seen on TV as a couch potato, all the known research methods are automatically abandoned. The predetermined conclusion is FINAL
• Physical Evidence that does not support the FINAL predetermined conclusion is always assumed to be planted.
• All critics who disagree in any way, shape, or form with said FINAL predetermined conclusions are shills, sheeple, government planted psy-ops using chemtrails, or ignorant.
• ....

Okay I had my fun... I'm beyond bored by this first time in history. Newtonian, have you once considered looking up why steel is fireproofed in highrise buildings despite the safety record? Somehow I doubt you have, or that you will.

Hehe, it was a bit fun

All I stated it was highly improbable based on historical evidence of global collapses Not impossible.

And please don`t believe I`m onetracked on this issue

 

[WildCat]

I could tell just from the formatting that the OP would be truthy. Must be an odd side effect of the paranoia, arrogance, and ignorance required to be a truther.

 

[Newtonian]

What's the largest piece of steel that you've specified?

Given that I have the gift of foresight, you would just ridicule me
If I told you.

 

[WildCat]

When I look at the events from a strictly mathbased and probability calculation I have found the events to be to consise beyond probability.

I have calculated the probability that you would join this forum and make this exact post at precisely 6:52 pm today as extremely low, therefore I don't think you actually exist.