Germany had the Me 264 first

You can't lampoon something

that's no good to start with.


Thank you, Giraffe. Yes, I meant to poke fun at MagZ and his ludicrous thread. That tiresome old "Hiddler he had da adam bomb FIRST!" crap has gone around too damn many times.

But, alas, I forgot that you can't kick any stuffing out of an empty bag.

The Natter was way groovier than the Me 264 anyway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachem_Ba_349
 
All this juvenile maundering about the "superiority" of all things German ignores the reality of the situation of the times.
The leaders of the country were insane.
Any wild-eyed scheme could get approved for development and production, taking scarce resources to actually support the war.
And for aircraft in particular, with no control of their own airspace, developing any long-range long endurance aircraft would have been impossible, with the Allied fighters shooting down everything that dared to take off.
And it's because they lost their war that all of the way-too-numerous projects they threw marks at were investigated.. to find that the Allied aircraft companies had done the same things, only abandoned the dumber ones before wasting any major efforts, because the Allied leaders weren't insane, and could recognize insanity as it trickled out of the development labs.
So what that it took 5 Shermans to knock out a Tiger?
We had 50 Shermans for every Tiger.
And we could put gas in them.
 
To be fair, that might have had something to do with having 1/3 the payload ...


And of course the U.S. was developing what would later become the B-36 Peacemaker. It might have debuted during WWII had its development not been delayed in favour of other projects and due to technical issues.
 
Something this thread tells me

is that people are still scared of the Germans.
 
And of course the U.S. was developing what would later become the B-36 Peacemaker. It might have debuted during WWII had its development not been delayed in favour of other projects and due to technical issues.

Now that plane was a monstrousity. 4 times the bomb load of the B-29, and indeed the greatest internal bombload of any bomber ever. Enough range to hit anywhere in Germany from Newfoundland without tanking if lightly loaded, and 3 Mark III atomic bombs would be considered lightly loaded, or fully loaded from Iceland. Capable of operating at 60,000 ft when lightened and lightly loaded. And easily capable of entering service in 45 had development not been frozen in 42 once it became clear Britain was not going to fall in favor of building more B-24s.

For all that it was obsolete on arrival post war and a technological deadend, it's surprising that it doesn't have the following of equally deadend designs like the Do-335 or the Grumman Bearcat.
 
And the Japanese purchased the flying prototype for the Douglas DC-4 before the war, and failed miserably at making a 4-motored bomber, and lost the war anyway.
From "FORTUNE" magazine, March 1941 issue...
These airplanes were already in service or entering flight test.
The aviation industry predicted a yearly output of airplanes at 30,000 planes by mid-1942, and we weren't even in the war yet!
The Zero-beater Corsair was flying before we'd ever encountered any Zeroes!
A failure to appreciate the manufacturing and resources capabilities of the US alone doomed the German and Japanese war efforts.
Apparently Admiral Yamamoto was the only person in the Axis to know what they were stirring up.
 

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Well now, you just look

at the people here anxiously explaining how the nazis couldn't possibly have won, on account of they didn't develop this & that.

I'm not scared of the Germans of the present generation, mind you. But if I was Hiddler and I had 80 million technologically-advanced lockstep-marching cabbage-crunchers at my absolute command, I believe I could stain your shorts in about a month.

I must have missed something... Could you direct me to a post that lead you to this conclusion ?
Make that two posts, since ' people ' implies more than one ...
 
at the people here anxiously explaining how the nazis couldn't possibly have won, on account of they didn't develop this & that.

I'm not scared of the Germans of the present generation, mind you. But if I was Hiddler and I had 80 million technologically-advanced lockstep-marching cabbage-crunchers at my absolute command, I believe I could stain your shorts in about a month.
And I believe you couldn't, on account of my 8 technologically-superior cyborg bear commandos with advanced ELINT weaponry derived from the HAARP program.

Sorry 'bout that.
 

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